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Old 07-02-2005, 06:12 PM
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Hi,

Right now I am in Barcelona, Spain. I live in a place where two
apartments are joined together. It is in the gothic quarter of the
city and the walls are typically thick here.

My neighbours have a proprietary wirelss router from Telefonica. It
also serves up their cable. They want to share the wireless for me but
it appears my side of the apartment is some sort of nether region where
the signal doesn't not go. Running an thernet cable is not feasable.

I thought about getting a repeater but telefonica claims you need their
repeater and in some cases with repeaters you have to go with the same
brand as the router.

I was wondering if the following would be successful. Run some
ethernet cable from the router to part way towards my space (thats
allowed).

On the other end of the ethernet cable I propose putting a Linksys
Access Point. The linksys access point can then serve another wireless
signal and obtain its IP from the telefonica router.

Is this possible?

Please let me know.

Cheers,

Bert



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Old 07-02-2005, 06:40 PM
Duane Arnold
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> On the other end of the ethernet cable I propose putting a Linksys
> Access Point. The linksys access point can then serve another wireless
> signal and obtain its IP from the telefonica router.
>
> Is this possible?
>


Why not? You can pout it on another SSID and channel and go on about your
business.

You can also do this too and the router is cheaper.


http://www.linksys.com/support/top10...54g/Connecting two WRT54G
routers together.asp

This above is what is in the link below.

http://tinyurl.com/486gk

You supplant router 1 with your other router. The principle is the same when
connecting two routers and one is converted to a wire/wireless AP switch.

http://www.homenethelp.com/web/expla...d-switches.asp

Duane
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Old 07-02-2005, 06:41 PM
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> Hi,
>
> Right now I am in Barcelona, Spain. I live in a place where two
> apartments are joined together. It is in the gothic quarter of the
> city and the walls are typically thick here.
>
> My neighbours have a proprietary wirelss router from Telefonica. It
> also serves up their cable. They want to share the wireless for me but
> it appears my side of the apartment is some sort of nether region where
> the signal doesn't not go. Running an thernet cable is not feasable.
>
> I thought about getting a repeater but telefonica claims you need their
> repeater and in some cases with repeaters you have to go with the same
> brand as the router.
>
> I was wondering if the following would be successful. Run some
> ethernet cable from the router to part way towards my space (thats
> allowed).
>
> On the other end of the ethernet cable I propose putting a Linksys
> Access Point. The linksys access point can then serve another wireless
> signal and obtain its IP from the telefonica router.
>
> Is this possible?
>
> Please let me know.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bert
>


"They want to share the wireless for me" don't you just love it............

reworded this means, I want to share their wireless with me



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Old 07-02-2005, 09:33 PM
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> Hi,
>
> Right now I am in Barcelona, Spain. I live in a place where two
> apartments are joined together. It is in the gothic quarter of the
> city and the walls are typically thick here.
>
> My neighbours have a proprietary wirelss router from Telefonica. It
> also serves up their cable. They want to share the wireless for me but
> it appears my side of the apartment is some sort of nether region where
> the signal doesn't not go. Running an thernet cable is not feasable.
>
> I thought about getting a repeater but telefonica claims you need their
> repeater and in some cases with repeaters you have to go with the same
> brand as the router.
>
> I was wondering if the following would be successful. Run some
> ethernet cable from the router to part way towards my space (thats
> allowed).
>
> On the other end of the ethernet cable I propose putting a Linksys
> Access Point. The linksys access point can then serve another wireless
> signal and obtain its IP from the telefonica router.
>
> Is this possible?


That should work. I have a netgear wireless router near my cable
modem, and then an ethernet cable to a Linksys AP on the other side of
our house.

They are on different channels, and have different SSIDs, and I use
whichever one has the stronger signal depending on where I am.
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Old 07-02-2005, 09:51 PM
dab722@mail.usask.ca
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Do I require a crossover cable to do this?

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Old 07-02-2005, 10:04 PM
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> Do I require a crossover cable to do this?


No. A regular cable between a LAN port on the telefonica and a LAN
port on the Linksys. And you'll need to turn off DHCP on the linksys
so that you don't have two different DHCP servers on the same network.

And if I were you, I would give the linksys a static IP address (on
the correct subnet of course) outside of the range that the telefonica
is serving up as DHCP addresses. When you do configuration, life is
easier if you know what the IP address is of the device you are
configuring!
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Old 07-02-2005, 10:28 PM
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> Do I require a crossover cable to do this?


No you would use a regular cable.

Duane

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Old 07-02-2005, 10:32 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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On 2 Jul 2005 10:12:23 -0700, (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>My neighbours have a proprietary wirelss router from Telefonica. It
>also serves up their cable. They want to share the wireless for me but
>it appears my side of the apartment is some sort of nether region where
>the signal doesn't not go. Running an thernet cable is not feasable.


Do you share a common AC power line? See:
http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE102.php
which uses the power lines to bridge an 802.11g wireless connection.
I have no clue if this will work with Telefonica.

>I thought about getting a repeater but telefonica claims you need their
>repeater and in some cases with repeaters you have to go with the same
>brand as the router.


This is basically correct. What this really means is that the chipset
used in the router must be the same as the chipset used in the
repeater and client radios. The most common chipsets that can act as
a repeater are made by Broadcom. If you could look inside the
Telefonica wireless box and extract the main chip numbers, it might be
possible to produce a guess as to compatible hardware.

>I was wondering if the following would be successful. Run some
>ethernet cable from the router to part way towards my space (thats
>allowed).
>
>On the other end of the ethernet cable I propose putting a Linksys
>Access Point. The linksys access point can then serve another wireless
>signal and obtain its IP from the telefonica router.
>
>Is this possible?


Yes. The access point is a bridge and acts just like an extension
cord for the ethernet. Use a different channel number and SSID so
that your client radio and the Telefonica wireless do not interfere
with each other.


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Old 07-05-2005, 03:50 AM
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"Ted" <
|
| "They want to share the wireless for me" don't you just love
it............
|
| reworded this means, I want to share their wireless with me
|

yea I have a few Japanese friends that think I'm a born comedian when I get
few under the belt and apply English grammar to Japanese which then becomes
Jinglish.


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