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Old 05-25-2005, 07:52 PM
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Hello all.. I temporarily am without my DSL (about 2 weeks). I have a
laptop with 802.11 and a neighbor kindly willing to let me on his wifi
network. I'd like to bridge my WiFi connection to my desktop.

At my hohuse I have a netgear wireless / wired router, 192.168.1.XX
IP, 255.255.255.0 subnet mask. The wifi is 192.168.0.XX IP's. I
bridged the two connections on my laptop, and then went into the
bridge TCP/IP properties, added both IP addresses (the IP assigned by
the wifi and the ethernet network, and added both gateways (TCP/IP,
properties, Advanced). The only thing I can think of is Windows doesnt
know that say the gateway for 192.168.1.3 IP is 192.168.1.66 v.s. the
other gateway. Am I going about this the right way? Will this work for
getting my desktop on the internet?

Thanks.

Evan


Evan Platt
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Old 05-25-2005, 11:52 PM
f/fgeorge
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On Wed, 25 May 2005 11:52:11 -0700, Evan Platt
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hello all.. I temporarily am without my DSL (about 2 weeks). I have a
>laptop with 802.11 and a neighbor kindly willing to let me on his wifi
>network. I'd like to bridge my WiFi connection to my desktop.
>
>At my hohuse I have a netgear wireless / wired router, 192.168.1.XX
>IP, 255.255.255.0 subnet mask. The wifi is 192.168.0.XX IP's. I
>bridged the two connections on my laptop, and then went into the
>bridge TCP/IP properties, added both IP addresses (the IP assigned by
>the wifi and the ethernet network, and added both gateways (TCP/IP,
>properties, Advanced). The only thing I can think of is Windows doesnt
>know that say the gateway for 192.168.1.3 IP is 192.168.1.66 v.s. the
>other gateway. Am I going about this the right way? Will this work for
>getting my desktop on the internet?
>

No I don't think so!
What the laptop bridging is for is so 2 connectors can use the same
info WITHIN the laptop.
You need to setup the router so it can recieve the data from the
neighbors system then you connect to your router just like always.
Is your neightbors router wireless? If so then just set your router to
connect to his, either as an AP or thru a bridge and then you will be
able to connect just fine.
You need to focus on the router to router connection and stay away
from individual machines. In 2 weeks you will have to reconfigure the
whole thing back to what it was anyway!

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Old 05-26-2005, 12:11 AM
Evan Platt
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On Wed, 25 May 2005 22:52:06 GMT, f/fgeorge <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>No I don't think so!
>What the laptop bridging is for is so 2 connectors can use the same
>info WITHIN the laptop.


Ahh.. That's not too useful now.

>You need to setup the router so it can recieve the data from the
>neighbors system then you connect to your router just like always.
>Is your neightbors router wireless? If so then just set your router to
>connect to his, either as an AP or thru a bridge and then you will be
>able to connect just fine.


We both run a Netgear Wired/wireless router.

>You need to focus on the router to router connection and stay away
>from individual machines. In 2 weeks you will have to reconfigure the
>whole thing back to what it was anyway!


I don't think there's a way to configure a WiFi router to connect to
another WiFi router, is there?
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Old 05-26-2005, 05:01 AM
f/fgeorge
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On Wed, 25 May 2005 16:11:02 -0700, Evan Platt
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>On Wed, 25 May 2005 22:52:06 GMT, f/fgeorge <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>You need to setup the router so it can recieve the data from the
>>neighbors system then you connect to your router just like always.
>>Is your neightbors router wireless? If so then just set your router to
>>connect to his, either as an AP or thru a bridge and then you will be
>>able to connect just fine.

>
>We both run a Netgear Wired/wireless router.
>
>>You need to focus on the router to router connection and stay away
>>from individual machines. In 2 weeks you will have to reconfigure the
>>whole thing back to what it was anyway!

>
>I don't think there's a way to configure a WiFi router to connect to
>another WiFi router, is there?

Look here Shortcut to:
http://www.linksys.com/support/top10...20together.asp

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Old 05-26-2005, 07:32 AM
Evan Platt
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On Thu, 26 May 2005 04:01:49 GMT, f/fgeorge <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>Look here Shortcut to:
>http://www.linksys.com/support/top10...20together.asp


Sorry if I wasn't clear - the routers are physically seperated. I have
the DSL at my house out for about two weeks. My neighbor about half a
block has a WiFi router - the above link talks about PHYSICALLY
connecting two routers - I'd somehow need to have my router connect
(via 802.11) to his router.

Sounds like what I want to accomplish isn't physically possible.

Thanks though.

Evan
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:28 AM
Duane Arnold
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Evan Platt <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> On Thu, 26 May 2005 04:01:49 GMT, f/fgeorge <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>>Look here Shortcut to:
>>http://www.linksys.com/support/top10...g%20two%20WRT5
>>4G%20routers%20together.asp

>
> Sorry if I wasn't clear - the routers are physically seperated. I have
> the DSL at my house out for about two weeks. My neighbor about half a
> block has a WiFi router - the above link talks about PHYSICALLY
> connecting two routers - I'd somehow need to have my router connect
> (via 802.11) to his router.
>
> Sounds like what I want to accomplish isn't physically possible.
>


So you can make this conection to the other person's wireless network
with the laptop and gain acess to the Internet?

Does the laptop have a ethernet card in it too?

If you have the above situation you might be able to use ICS on the
wireless NIC.

You could then configure your Netgear router to be a switch by disabling
the DHCP server, which would turn the router into a wire/WAP switch and
plug it into the ethernet connection on the laptop.

Then you can plug your desktop into the Netgear. The laptop if it's a NT
based O/S should become a DHCP server and provide the IP(s) for the LAN.

You may have to configure the router/switch to use a static IP on the
gateway laptop or you might be able to let it obtain an IP from the
laptop. The desktop computer would get an IP from the DHCP server on the
laptop.

I don't see why that wouldn't work for you.

It's a shot in trying to help.

Duane
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:48 PM
cjtwantstoknow@yahoo.com
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Pickup a bridge such as a Linksys WET11. First establish a connection
to a single PC - the WET11 ships with configuration software. Next,
connect the WET11 to the WAN port on your router. If your router has
wireless, then make sure it transmits on another channel (as far from
the other channel as possible).

Evan Platt wrote:
> Hello all.. I temporarily am without my DSL (about 2 weeks). I have a
> laptop with 802.11 and a neighbor kindly willing to let me on his wifi
> network. I'd like to bridge my WiFi connection to my desktop.
>
> At my hohuse I have a netgear wireless / wired router, 192.168.1.XX
> IP, 255.255.255.0 subnet mask. The wifi is 192.168.0.XX IP's. I
> bridged the two connections on my laptop, and then went into the
> bridge TCP/IP properties, added both IP addresses (the IP assigned by
> the wifi and the ethernet network, and added both gateways (TCP/IP,
> properties, Advanced). The only thing I can think of is Windows doesnt
> know that say the gateway for 192.168.1.3 IP is 192.168.1.66 v.s. the
> other gateway. Am I going about this the right way? Will this work for
> getting my desktop on the internet?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Evan


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Old 05-26-2005, 04:36 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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On Wed, 25 May 2005 16:11:02 -0700, Evan Platt
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>We both run a Netgear Wired/wireless router.


Mini-rant: Is there some reason why you've failed to disclose the
model number of the Netgear router? All routers are not created equal
and have varying features. Some of these features might actually be
useful for what you're doing.

>I don't think there's a way to configure a WiFi router to connect to
>another WiFi router, is there?


Maybe. Some possiblities:

1. Do both your unspecified model Netgear routers support WDS
(wireless distribution service)? Two routers can be made to
communicate with WDS. Both routers will need to be configured to do
this. Unfortunately, only a few Netgear routers/access points will do
WDS such as the Prosafe Series WG302, WG102, WGT624, FWG114, etc.

2. Duz your unspecified model Netgear router have a "client mode"?
If so, you can temporarily turn your router into a client radio, and
connect exactly one computah to your neighbors wireless router. No
changes required at the neighbors end.

I suspect you don't wanna spend money just to do this for 2 weeks.
However, if you can find an ethernet wireless bridge or client radio
(WAP11, WRT54G with Alchemy firmware, WAP54G, WET11, DWL900AP+, etc),
you can use it to connect to the neighbors in client mode. One way is
to just plug it into your existing unspecified model Netgear router
and it will handle multiple computers via double NAT. However, if you
only have one computah, just plug the computah into the client radio
and ignore your existing router. Of course, you could also buy a
client radio for your unspecified computers and connect to the
neighbors directly.


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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558
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