Connected but not connected

I've been trying to add a wireless dell Lattitude M 600 with a built in
wireless card which seems to connect everywhere (i.e. Starbucks). I am
trying to add it to me Netgear WGR 614 and the indicator light says that it
is receiving a strong signal from the wireless network and you can even see
the network name in My Network Places. Unfortunately, the only computer
that it sees is the new laptop, not either of the two desktop computers that
are Ethernet connected to the router. Internet also fails. I have granted
permission for the new computer to be connected to the router by MAC address
(for security). I can't see the laptop from either of the desktops. Any
ideas?




MonkeyBlair70

"MonkeyBlair70" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've been trying to add a wireless dell Lattitude M 600 with a built in
> wireless card which seems to connect everywhere (i.e. Starbucks). I am
> trying to add it to me Netgear WGR 614 and the indicator light says that
> it is receiving a strong signal from the wireless network and you can even
> see the network name in My Network Places. Unfortunately, the only
> computer that it sees is the new laptop, not either of the two desktop
> computers that are Ethernet connected to the router. Internet also fails.
> I have granted permission for the new computer to be connected to the
> router by MAC address (for security). I can't see the laptop from either
> of the desktops. Any ideas?
>

Firewall, Network settings...........assuming you are using some form of
protection, have you set Trusted zones in Network settings. I use Norton IS
where Firewall, Network settings contains all IP addresses that can see each
other on my wireless network.

"MonkeyBlair70" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> I've been trying to add a wireless dell Lattitude M 600 with a built
> in wireless card which seems to connect everywhere (i.e. Starbucks). I
> am trying to add it to me Netgear WGR 614 and the indicator light says
> that it is receiving a strong signal from the wireless network and you
> can even see the network name in My Network Places. Unfortunately,
> the only computer that it sees is the new laptop, not either of the
> two desktop computers that are Ethernet connected to the router.
> Internet also fails. I have granted permission for the new computer
> to be connected to the router by MAC address (for security). I can't
> see the laptop from either of the desktops. Any ideas?
>
>

Do you have personal FW(s) running on the machines? If you do, then disable
them and see if the machines can see each other in the same Work Group.

Are you saying the Internet fails when the laptop tries to access it? If
this is true, what IP is the machine getting from the router when you enter
IPconfig /all at the DOS Command Prompt? If the machine is getting a 169
IP, then the O/S cannot get an IP from the router and is timing out and
assigning the 169 IP to the NIC.

The 169 IP will not allow the machine to access the Internet, since it
never got an IP from the DHCP server on the router. This is usually due to
some type of mis-confguration between the router and the wireless NIC. The
169 will allow the machine to access other machines on the router's LAN.

Duane

I have a Zone Alarm firewall, but have temporarily disabled it in order to
get the network setup. I have listed the laptop in the trusted sites area,
but as I said it is disabled. I have also disabled Microsoft Internet
Firewall on all computers.
The Network runs in TCP/IP where it is set to obtain IP and DNS settings
automatically. DHCP is enabled.
As I have explained to Duane below when I select ipconfig/all it says ip
routing not enabled.
When I type the same command into my main desktop it does show an IP
address.
Also, when I use the Dell Lan utility it shows good signal strength.
Thanks,
Bob
"Ted Eboy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "MonkeyBlair70" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> I've been trying to add a wireless dell Lattitude M 600 with a built in
>> wireless card which seems to connect everywhere (i.e. Starbucks). I am
>> trying to add it to me Netgear WGR 614 and the indicator light says that
>> it is receiving a strong signal from the wireless network and you can
>> even see the network name in My Network Places. Unfortunately, the only
>> computer that it sees is the new laptop, not either of the two desktop
>> computers that are Ethernet connected to the router. Internet also
>> fails. I have granted permission for the new computer to be connected to
>> the router by MAC address (for security). I can't see the laptop from
>> either of the desktops. Any ideas?
>>
>
> Firewall, Network settings...........assuming you are using some form of
> protection, have you set Trusted zones in Network settings. I use Norton
> IS where Firewall, Network settings contains all IP addresses that can see
> each other on my wireless network.
>

I have disabled the firewalls. I do not get a reply to ipconfig/all.
Bob
"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "MonkeyBlair70" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>
>> I've been trying to add a wireless dell Lattitude M 600 with a built
>> in wireless card which seems to connect everywhere (i.e. Starbucks). I
>> am trying to add it to me Netgear WGR 614 and the indicator light says
>> that it is receiving a strong signal from the wireless network and you
>> can even see the network name in My Network Places. Unfortunately,
>> the only computer that it sees is the new laptop, not either of the
>> two desktop computers that are Ethernet connected to the router.
>> Internet also fails. I have granted permission for the new computer
>> to be connected to the router by MAC address (for security). I can't
>> see the laptop from either of the desktops. Any ideas?
>>
>>
>
> Do you have personal FW(s) running on the machines? If you do, then
> disable
> them and see if the machines can see each other in the same Work Group.
>
> Are you saying the Internet fails when the laptop tries to access it? If
> this is true, what IP is the machine getting from the router when you
> enter
> IPconfig /all at the DOS Command Prompt? If the machine is getting a 169
> IP, then the O/S cannot get an IP from the router and is timing out and
> assigning the 169 IP to the NIC.
>
> The 169 IP will not allow the machine to access the Internet, since it
> never got an IP from the DHCP server on the router. This is usually due to
> some type of mis-confguration between the router and the wireless NIC. The
> 169 will allow the machine to access other machines on the router's LAN.
>
> Duane

On Thu, 26 May 2005 15:49:09 -0400, in alt.internet.wireless ,
"MonkeyBlair70" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I have disabled the firewalls. I do not get a reply to ipconfig/all.

Go back to basics.

First, connect the laptop to the router using an ethernet cable, ie
NOT wireless. Ensure that it can get an address, connect, see the
other machines etc in this mode.

THEN, when thats all working, try wireless. Disable any encryption,
security etc. Slowly re-introduce stuff till it stops working, then
figure out what you broke.


--
Mark McIntyre
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CLC readme: <http://www.ungerhu.com/jxh/clc.welcome.txt>

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"MonkeyBlair70" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> I have disabled the firewalls. I do not get a reply to ipconfig/all.

Well if you did an Ipconfig /all and it came back with nothing, which I
have never heard of, then it's not making contact with the router to get an
IP. Yeah, you can have contact wireless and signals being sent but it
really doesn't have contact with the router.

And that is Ipconfig b/all b = blank or space.

There is also Ipconfig /release followed by Ipconfig /renew to make the
machine obtian an IP from the router.

There is also Ipconfig /?

Duane

You need the correct encryption entered into your new laptop. Or disable
the encryption on the router and then try to connect to it.
Are you sure that you have wireless enabled on the router? I will ASSuME
that you do based on you being able to see the router with your laptop. ;-)

just some newbie thoughts. ;-)

Thanks for all of your help so far. I repeated the ipconfig procedure and
indeed found that when I allowed the laptop to find its own IP address that
it began with a 169. Therefore, I switched to manual configuration and
picked an address that followed all of the other computers that were
connected. Oddly, for a little while I could identify the name of one of
the other computers on the network. I tried to ping the router and the
other computers and got no response. From what I can tell the laptop is
able to receive a signal from the router, but not able to respond. I did a
Network troubleshooter exercise from Win XP which seemed to show bunches of
setup problems in the connection (except for finding the IP address) I'm not
even sure if the internal NIC card is working in the laptop (it worked in
Starbucks)
This is frustrating.
Bob
"Duane Arnold" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "MonkeyBlair70" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>> I have disabled the firewalls. I do not get a reply to ipconfig/all.
>
> Well if you did an Ipconfig /all and it came back with nothing, which I
> have never heard of, then it's not making contact with the router to get
> an
> IP. Yeah, you can have contact wireless and signals being sent but it
> really doesn't have contact with the router.
>
> And that is Ipconfig b/all b = blank or space.
>
> There is also Ipconfig /release followed by Ipconfig /renew to make the
> machine obtian an IP from the router.
>
> There is also Ipconfig /?
>
> Duane
>

"MonkeyBlair70" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Thanks for all of your help so far. I repeated the ipconfig procedure
> and indeed found that when I allowed the laptop to find its own IP
> address that it began with a 169. Therefore, I switched to manual
> configuration and picked an address that followed all of the other
> computers that were connected. Oddly, for a little while I could
> identify the name of one of the other computers on the network. I
> tried to ping the router and the other computers and got no response.
> From what I can tell the laptop is able to receive a signal from the
> router, but not able to respond. I did a Network troubleshooter
> exercise from Win XP which seemed to show bunches of setup problems in
> the connection (except for finding the IP address) I'm not even sure
> if the internal NIC card is working in the laptop (it worked in
> Starbucks) This is frustrating.

Hey, if you gave the machine an IP manually and it cannot access the Admin
screen on the router through the browser by giving the router's HTTP IP
address, then the machine still doesn't have a valid contact with the
router concerning using an IP on or from the router.

Some times the TCP/IP Stack on the O?S can be locked and will not release
the condition of the 169 situation.

You may have to reset the TCP/IP stack or Winsock on the machine. You
should find the procedure for the O/S you are using ans see if that doesn't
correct your problem.

http://tinyurl.com/duprp
http://tinyurl.com/5hn2e

Duane