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Old 05-17-2004, 03:49 PM
Default 98se / xp networking issue



I have recently installed a home network. I have a pc
running Windows98se, and a laptop running Windows XP
Home. I've installed a Netgear WGR614 wireless router. I
have the 98se pc connected via ethernet cable to the
router, and the laptop connected via wireless using a
Netgear WG511 wireless card. From the 98se pc I can ping
the router (192.168.0.1), the laptop (192.168.0.3), and
itself (192.168.0.2). I can also ping using the DNS
name. I can access the internet from both computers. I
cannot browse the network on the 98 pc - I get the
error "Unable to browse the network. The network is not
accessible. For more information, look in the Help Index
at the topic 'Network Troubleshooter'". From the XP
laptop, I can ping the router and itself, but not the 98se
pc. I can see the share in Windows Explorer, but when I
try to access it I get an error stating that the computer
is not accessible - I may not have permissions to access
the network resource." I uninstalled my McAfee firewall
on the 98se pc, removed and re-added all network protocols
and services. I have file and printer sharing enabled.
I've tried just about everything - I've found a lot of
threads with people having similar issues. Very
frustrating. Any help would be greatly appreciated.



John
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Old 05-17-2004, 07:08 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
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Default Re: 98se / xp networking issue

In article <df8201c43c1e$26176790$(E-Mail Removed)>, "John"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I have recently installed a home network. I have a pc
>running Windows98se, and a laptop running Windows XP
>Home. I've installed a Netgear WGR614 wireless router. I
>have the 98se pc connected via ethernet cable to the
>router, and the laptop connected via wireless using a
>Netgear WG511 wireless card. From the 98se pc I can ping
>the router (192.168.0.1), the laptop (192.168.0.3), and
>itself (192.168.0.2). I can also ping using the DNS
>name. I can access the internet from both computers. I
>cannot browse the network on the 98 pc - I get the
>error "Unable to browse the network. The network is not
>accessible. For more information, look in the Help Index
>at the topic 'Network Troubleshooter'".


It can take up to 15 minutes after a computer starts up before network
browsing works. During that time, you should be able to access
another computer by typing the other computer's name in the Start |
Run box preceded by two backslash characters:

\\computer

If that doesn't work, a common reason for inability to browse the
network is that the user isn't logged on. Is there a logon prompt
when Windows 98 starts? If so, don't cancel it. Complete the logon
by entering a user name and, optionally, a password. If there's no
logon prompt, click Start | Log Off and log back on. If that makes
network browsing work properly, the most likely fix is to go to this
registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
Network\Real Mode Net

and delete the value named "AutoLogon", as shown here:

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon

>From the XP
>laptop, I can ping the router and itself, but not the 98se
>pc. I can see the share in Windows Explorer, but when I
>try to access it I get an error stating that the computer
>is not accessible - I may not have permissions to access
>the network resource." I uninstalled my McAfee firewall
>on the 98se pc, removed and re-added all network protocols
>and services. I have file and printer sharing enabled.
>I've tried just about everything - I've found a lot of
>threads with people having similar issues. Very
>frustrating. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Re-install the McAfee firewall and then un-install it again, being
sure to use the un-install procedure provided by the manufacturer.
Then, go to Start | Run | Msconfig | Startup and disable any firewall
remnants.

Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers:

Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...hoot/netbt.htm
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Old 05-17-2004, 10:59 PM
DemonDad
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Default Re: 98se / xp networking issue

I had very similar problems setting up my network until someone
explained that the TCP/IP stack can get corrupted from many changes.
Here is a link to a Boston University page where the problem is
explained, and a fix is available. Withing 5 minutes of running the
fix, my network was up and screaming.

http://www.bu.edu/pcsc/internetaccess/winsock2fix.html

John

On Mon, 17 May 2004 07:49:25 -0700, "John"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I have recently installed a home network. I have a pc
>running Windows98se, and a laptop running Windows XP
>Home. I've installed a Netgear WGR614 wireless router. I
>have the 98se pc connected via ethernet cable to the
>router, and the laptop connected via wireless using a
>Netgear WG511 wireless card. From the 98se pc I can ping
>the router (192.168.0.1), the laptop (192.168.0.3), and
>itself (192.168.0.2). I can also ping using the DNS
>name. I can access the internet from both computers. I
>cannot browse the network on the 98 pc - I get the
>error "Unable to browse the network. The network is not
>accessible. For more information, look in the Help Index
>at the topic 'Network Troubleshooter'". From the XP
>laptop, I can ping the router and itself, but not the 98se
>pc. I can see the share in Windows Explorer, but when I
>try to access it I get an error stating that the computer
>is not accessible - I may not have permissions to access
>the network resource." I uninstalled my McAfee firewall
>on the 98se pc, removed and re-added all network protocols
>and services. I have file and printer sharing enabled.
>I've tried just about everything - I've found a lot of
>threads with people having similar issues. Very
>frustrating. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Old 05-18-2004, 04:16 PM
John
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Default Found problem but not solution

>
>Re-install the McAfee firewall and then un-install it

again, being
>sure to use the un-install procedure provided by the

manufacturer.
>Then, go to Start | Run | Msconfig | Startup and disable

any firewall
>remnants.
>
>Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both

computers:
>


OK - this is what is happening. I re-installed the Mcafee
firewall. Rather than uninstall it again right away, I
activated it and used its settings to allow shares to and
from the 98 pc. BINGO!!! The network worked perfect.
Then I disabled the firewall, and the network stopped
working. With firewall active, the network works great,
with it disabled it does not work. Somehow Mcafee must be
interfering with the Windows option to enable NetBIOS over
TCP/IP. Does this sound logical? If so, what should I do
next? Thanks!
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Old 05-18-2004, 06:17 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
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Default Re: Found problem but not solution

In article <ea4301c43ceb$17ba8f60$(E-Mail Removed)>, "John"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>Re-install the McAfee firewall and then un-install it

>again, being
>>sure to use the un-install procedure provided by the

>manufacturer.
>>Then, go to Start | Run | Msconfig | Startup and disable

>any firewall
>>remnants.
>>
>>Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both

>computers:
>>

>
>OK - this is what is happening. I re-installed the Mcafee
>firewall. Rather than uninstall it again right away, I
>activated it and used its settings to allow shares to and
>from the 98 pc. BINGO!!! The network worked perfect.
>Then I disabled the firewall, and the network stopped
>working. With firewall active, the network works great,
>with it disabled it does not work. Somehow Mcafee must be
>interfering with the Windows option to enable NetBIOS over
>TCP/IP. Does this sound logical? If so, what should I do
>next? Thanks!


I'm sorry, but I don't have access to the McAfee firewall for testing.
Since everything works with the firewall installed and active, I'd
leave it that way or contact McAfee tech support for other options.
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Old 05-20-2004, 07:10 AM
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Default 98se / xp networking issue

They both need to be a member of the same WORKGROUP to
access each other.

>-----Original Message-----
>I have recently installed a home network. I have a pc
>running Windows98se, and a laptop running Windows XP
>Home. I've installed a Netgear WGR614 wireless router.

I
>have the 98se pc connected via ethernet cable to the
>router, and the laptop connected via wireless using a
>Netgear WG511 wireless card. From the 98se pc I can ping
>the router (192.168.0.1), the laptop (192.168.0.3), and
>itself (192.168.0.2). I can also ping using the DNS
>name. I can access the internet from both computers. I
>cannot browse the network on the 98 pc - I get the
>error "Unable to browse the network. The network is not
>accessible. For more information, look in the Help Index
>at the topic 'Network Troubleshooter'". From the XP
>laptop, I can ping the router and itself, but not the

98se
>pc. I can see the share in Windows Explorer, but when I
>try to access it I get an error stating that the computer
>is not accessible - I may not have permissions to access
>the network resource." I uninstalled my McAfee

firewall
>on the 98se pc, removed and re-added all network

protocols
>and services. I have file and printer sharing enabled.
>I've tried just about everything - I've found a lot of
>threads with people having similar issues. Very
>frustrating. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>.
>

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Old 05-20-2004, 07:15 PM
Steve Winograd [MVP]
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In article <f93b01c43e31$328345c0$(E-Mail Removed)>,
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>They both need to be a member of the same WORKGROUP to
>access each other.


Using the same workgroup name makes networking and accessing other
computers a little easier, but it isn't necessary. Windows networking
supports multiple workgroups, and a computer in any workgroup can
access a computer in any other workgroup.

To see other workgroups from Network Neighborhood, click Entire
Network.

To access another computer, regardless of what workgroup it's in, type
its name in the Start | Run box in this format:

\\computer
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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