Re: Wireless E-mule

> > We must be reading specs differently. Plenty of hubs, in fact just
> > about all of the current ones offer 10/100Mbps full duplex.
>
> And all of them are switches not hubs I'll bet.

Have you done a google search yet? Try any major manufacturer and look
at the specs. If "10/100 autosense full duplex" on a hub means
something different to you then please explain!

David.

David Taylor <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> Try any major manufacturer
> and look at the specs. If "10/100 autosense full duplex" on a
> hub means something different to you then please explain!
>

I couldn't find any at Cisco, 3COM, Netgear and Linksys sites.

I think this discussion has become bogged down over the difference
between what technology is inside the box versus what it says on
the label.

IME a hub that can do full-duplex, is actually a switch inside the
box. A vendor labelling such a device as just a hub would be under-
selling its capabilities. Some vendors use the label "switching
hub", which is slightly clearer.


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BRG wrote:
>
> David Taylor <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > Try any major manufacturer
> > and look at the specs. If "10/100 autosense full duplex" on a
> > hub means something different to you then please explain!
> >
>
> I couldn't find any at Cisco, 3COM, Netgear and Linksys sites.
>
> I think this discussion has become bogged down over the difference
> between what technology is inside the box versus what it says on
> the label.
>
> IME a hub that can do full-duplex, is actually a switch inside the
> box. A vendor labelling such a device as just a hub would be under-
> selling its capabilities. Some vendors use the label "switching
> hub", which is slightly clearer.
>
Yes any reference to switched ethernet would deem the device in question
to be a "switch", unfortunately it is sometimes also referred to as fast
efthernet, AFAIK ANY device offering 100-Base connection is going to be
switched ethernet.(whatever they call it on the box) These things are
now so cheap that I really think NO manufacturer is still producing the
old technology, The whole point of what I said in the first place comes
down to the fact there are probably loads of these (old hubs) finding
there way into the home user market (Got one free from work because of
an upgrade etc. etc. or found in a skip (yes I have)) it is important to
know the limitations of any hardware you have, An arbitrary "any $5 NIC
will do 100Mb/s" should be backed up by a warning of yes it will but be
careful what you plug it into. My old HP Netserver has a 100Mb card in
it, My old (very) Compaq prosignia server (P1 75Mhz) Also does. My Hub a
neat little thing I found in a wiring closet one day 8 port Cabletron
device (8 PC's into one port on the main closet..eeeek!) does not. But
it's nice to have at home as it is not too big and my network backup
completes fine every night. Also I can use a sniffer in it to search for
rogue MAC addresses as I have a Wireless Access point attached to it. I
probably could benefit from a switch in speed terms but I don't need it
at home. It's a hell of a lot better than a bit of coax running round
the room like I had.

Enough now, I think we have all made our points here. Good discussion,
more like USENET should be.

Cheers.




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Martin Saltiel

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