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Old 07-13-2005, 10:22 PM
Default Direct Cable Connection + XP - W95



Hi all,
not the usual that is discussed here, but networking nonetheless. I am
trying to connect a W95 box with a XP one. The rules I have prevent me from
opening the W95 box to add or remove anything so I am reduced to a direct
serial cable connection.
I've tried to establish a connection from both ends, installed IPX/SPX on
the XP box, enabled guest, file and printer sharing, shared some folders but
still unable to get a connection.
has anyone any other solutions?

Al Reeve




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Old 07-14-2005, 03:02 AM
Rob Morley
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In article <db40ng$2uo$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Al
Reeve" (E-Mail Removed) says...
> Hi all,
> not the usual that is discussed here, but networking nonetheless. I am
> trying to connect a W95 box with a XP one. The rules I have prevent me from
> opening the W95 box to add or remove anything so I am reduced to a direct
> serial cable connection.
> I've tried to establish a connection from both ends, installed IPX/SPX on
> the XP box, enabled guest, file and printer sharing, shared some folders but
> still unable to get a connection.
> has anyone any other solutions?
>

Have you checked that the cable is good, and that it's a null-modem
rather than straight-through?
Are both the serial ports working okay (enabled in BIOS, recognized
by Windows, set at the same speed, word size, parity etc.)? Try
connecting something else (mouse, modem) to them and see if it works.
Have you configured any firewalls?
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Old 07-14-2005, 03:25 PM
Al Reeve
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"Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) t...
> In article <db40ng$2uo$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Al
> Reeve" (E-Mail Removed) says...
>> Hi all,
>> not the usual that is discussed here, but networking nonetheless. I am
>> trying to connect a W95 box with a XP one. The rules I have prevent me
>> from
>> opening the W95 box to add or remove anything so I am reduced to a direct
>> serial cable connection.
>> I've tried to establish a connection from both ends, installed IPX/SPX on
>> the XP box, enabled guest, file and printer sharing, shared some folders
>> but
>> still unable to get a connection.
>> has anyone any other solutions?
>>

> Have you checked that the cable is good, and that it's a null-modem
> rather than straight-through?
> Are both the serial ports working okay (enabled in BIOS, recognized
> by Windows, set at the same speed, word size, parity etc.)? Try
> connecting something else (mouse, modem) to them and see if it works.
> Have you configured any firewalls?


Thanks for the list Rob, all good stuff. The cable gets my vote as most
likely the problem, it came from a UPS so is an unknown quantity. As for
the rest, we don't have any other serial device to connect, but all ports
are enabled, recognised, matched etc and firewalls off. The machine is
going to IT tomorrow I think with a demand for them to get the data off to
medium we can import onto the new system with. Cheers, Al


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Old 07-14-2005, 04:40 PM
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On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 Al Reeve wrote:

>>> Hi all,
>>> not the usual that is discussed here, but networking nonetheless. I am
>>> trying to connect a W95 box with a XP one. The rules I have prevent me
>>> from
>>> opening the W95 box to add or remove anything so I am reduced to a direct
>>> serial cable connection.
>>> I've tried to establish a connection from both ends, installed IPX/SPX on
>>> the XP box, enabled guest, file and printer sharing, shared some folders
>>> but
>>> still unable to get a connection.
>>> has anyone any other solutions?
>>>

>> Have you checked that the cable is good, and that it's a null-modem
>> rather than straight-through?
>> Are both the serial ports working okay (enabled in BIOS, recognized
>> by Windows, set at the same speed, word size, parity etc.)? Try
>> connecting something else (mouse, modem) to them and see if it works.
>> Have you configured any firewalls?

>
>Thanks for the list Rob, all good stuff. The cable gets my vote as most
>likely the problem, it came from a UPS so is an unknown quantity. As for
>the rest, we don't have any other serial device to connect, but all ports
>are enabled, recognised, matched etc and firewalls off. The machine is
>going to IT tomorrow I think with a demand for them to get the data off to
>medium we can import onto the new system with. Cheers, Al


Swap pins 2 and 3 on one end of the serial cable to make a null modem.

David

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Old 07-14-2005, 07:04 PM
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In article <db5sl9$kuh$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Al
Reeve" (E-Mail Removed) says...
>
> "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) t...
> > In article <db40ng$2uo$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Al
> > Reeve" (E-Mail Removed) says...
> >> Hi all,
> >> not the usual that is discussed here, but networking nonetheless. I am
> >> trying to connect a W95 box with a XP one. The rules I have prevent me
> >> from
> >> opening the W95 box to add or remove anything so I am reduced to a direct
> >> serial cable connection.
> >> I've tried to establish a connection from both ends, installed IPX/SPX on
> >> the XP box, enabled guest, file and printer sharing, shared some folders
> >> but
> >> still unable to get a connection.
> >> has anyone any other solutions?
> >>

> > Have you checked that the cable is good, and that it's a null-modem
> > rather than straight-through?
> > Are both the serial ports working okay (enabled in BIOS, recognized
> > by Windows, set at the same speed, word size, parity etc.)? Try
> > connecting something else (mouse, modem) to them and see if it works.
> > Have you configured any firewalls?

>
> Thanks for the list Rob, all good stuff. The cable gets my vote as most
> likely the problem, it came from a UPS so is an unknown quantity.


Probably wired straight-through then.
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Old 07-14-2005, 11:34 PM
John Fryatt
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Al Reeve wrote:
> "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) t...
>
>>In article <db40ng$2uo$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Al
>>Reeve" (E-Mail Removed) says...
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>not the usual that is discussed here, but networking nonetheless. I am
>>>trying to connect a W95 box with a XP one. The rules I have prevent me
>>>from
>>>opening the W95 box to add or remove anything so I am reduced to a direct
>>>serial cable connection.
>>>I've tried to establish a connection from both ends, installed IPX/SPX on
>>>the XP box, enabled guest, file and printer sharing, shared some folders
>>>but
>>>still unable to get a connection.
>>>has anyone any other solutions?
>>>

>>
>>Have you checked that the cable is good, and that it's a null-modem
>>rather than straight-through?
>>Are both the serial ports working okay (enabled in BIOS, recognized
>>by Windows, set at the same speed, word size, parity etc.)? Try
>>connecting something else (mouse, modem) to them and see if it works.
>>Have you configured any firewalls?

>
>
> Thanks for the list Rob, all good stuff. The cable gets my vote as most
> likely the problem, it came from a UPS so is an unknown quantity. As for
> the rest, we don't have any other serial device to connect, but all ports
> are enabled, recognised, matched etc and firewalls off. The machine is
> going to IT tomorrow I think with a demand for them to get the data off to
> medium we can import onto the new system with. Cheers, Al


Serial cables for UPSs are non-standard, or at least the APC ones are.
I would try another cable.

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