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Old 06-30-2005, 10:41 PM
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An internal wireless PCI card or a USB adaptor?

Any experiences on which type is better at picking up the signal from the
Router in a nearby room. Or are there no discernable differences?

Cheers




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Old 06-30-2005, 10:52 PM
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:41:14 +0100, "mark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>An internal wireless PCI card or a USB adaptor?


the latter can be positioned for best signal, and is away from the
metal case and noisy electronics of the PC.

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Old 07-01-2005, 01:59 AM
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mark wrote on 6/30/2005 5:41 PM:
> An internal wireless PCI card or a USB adaptor?
>
> Any experiences on which type is better at picking up the signal from the
> Router in a nearby room. Or are there no discernable differences?
>
> Cheers
>
>

If it isnt a laptop, use HomePlug devices. HomePlug has lower latency
and you dont have the reach issues.

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Old 07-01-2005, 08:08 AM
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On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:59:54 -0400, Jim <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>HomePlug has lower latency
>and you dont have the reach issues.


wireless is <1 ms. Is latency measurably different on the more
expensive HomePlug ?

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Old 07-01-2005, 10:42 AM
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Jim wrote:

> >

> If it isnt a laptop, use HomePlug devices. HomePlug has lower latency
> and you dont have the reach issues.


Homeplug's speed drops from its nominal speed as you move further away.
When going up 3 floors it dropped to 2 megaBITS/sec . If I added a
short extension cable it wouldn?t connect. Nevertheless very useful
because a wireless connection didn't work, and fast enough for ADSL.
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:20 AM
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> An internal wireless PCI card or a USB adaptor?
>
> Any experiences on which type is better at picking up the signal from the
> Router in a nearby room. Or are there no discernable differences?


I've always found the USB adaptors work much better in a weaker reception
area than PCI

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Old 07-01-2005, 10:58 PM
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Phil Thompson wrote on 7/1/2005 3:08 AM:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:59:54 -0400, Jim <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>>HomePlug has lower latency
>>and you dont have the reach issues.

>
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> wireless is <1 ms. Is latency measurably different on the more
> expensive HomePlug ?
>
> Phil

Wrong! Try more like 60-70ms for wireless where HomePlug is in the 2-4ms
range. Not to mention setting up wireless can be a royal pain in the arse.

Jim
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:49 PM
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On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:58:00 -0400, Jim <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Wrong! Try more like 60-70ms for wireless where HomePlug is in the 2-4ms
>range.


You must have been listening to a salesman, or you are one.

My wifi gear pings in the 2-3 ms range to a Win98 PC with a USB
wireless adaptor.

Last time I saw pings of 60-70 ms was when I had ISDN.

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Old 07-02-2005, 02:09 AM
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Phil Thompson wrote on 7/1/2005 6:49 PM:
> On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:58:00 -0400, Jim <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
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>>Wrong! Try more like 60-70ms for wireless where HomePlug is in the 2-4ms
>>range.

>
>
> You must have been listening to a salesman, or you are one.
>
> My wifi gear pings in the 2-3 ms range to a Win98 PC with a USB
> wireless adaptor.
>
> Last time I saw pings of 60-70 ms was when I had ISDN.
>
> Phil

Thats great news. What happens when you start adding additional data on
the line? What happens when your reach isn't so great?

Why arent they using 802.11 for IPTV? Packet Loss!! All of the sub 1ms
data comes from datasheets and product literature or setups with ideal
conditions.

It has nothing to do with sales, but technical reality.

Jim
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Old 07-02-2005, 03:39 AM
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Phil Thompson wrote:

> My wifi gear pings in the 2-3 ms range to a Win98 PC with a USB
> wireless adaptor.


My wifi gear pings in the 3-7 ms range to a WinXP PC with a USB
802.11b (11megaBIT/sec, I.e., slow) wireless adaptor. (only one of 8
pings was >5 ms)



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