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Old 02-05-2005, 02:58 PM
Default Laptop wireless card that supports NT4



Do any manufacturers make a PCMCIA wireless card or a USB wireless access
point that has drivers for NT4? A quick check on the DLink, Netgear and
Belkin sites shows that the currently-available cards only support 98, Win
2K and Win XP.

A customer wants to set up a wireless network that includes a laptop that
has NT4 installed. If I can't get a wireless card / USB access point that
supports NT4, I'm a bit stumped - unless he's able to upgrade the laptop to
XP. Unfortunately a wired solution isn't feasable because of the difficulty
in routing a cable through the house. I haven't seen the laptop so I'm not
sure if it has an Ethernet port built in - if it has, it's highly likely
that this will have drivers, in which case it's a simple matter to connect a
conventional access point to this port.





Martin Underwood
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Old 02-05-2005, 03:26 PM
Kris
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Martin Underwood writes:
> Do any manufacturers make a PCMCIA wireless card or a USB wireless access
> point that has drivers for NT4? A quick check on the DLink, Netgear and
> Belkin sites shows that the currently-available cards only support 98, Win
> 2K and Win XP.


I have a feeling it's more of a cardbus/32bit versus 16bit pcmcia rather
than just drivers - NT4 more likely to be running on old hardware. The
Orinoco classic cards will very likely work fine in NT4.

If the thing in this auction actually does look like the picture (rather
than the new flat white ones) then you can disassemble it and have a
stickerless silver-coloured Orinoco PCMCIA card which should work just
fine in NT4:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=5749738430



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Old 02-05-2005, 03:27 PM
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In article <4204df36$0$47240$(E-Mail Removed)>,
"Martin Underwood" (E-Mail Removed) says...
> Do any manufacturers make a PCMCIA wireless card or a USB wireless access
> point that has drivers for NT4? A quick check on the DLink, Netgear and
> Belkin sites shows that the currently-available cards only support 98, Win
> 2K and Win XP.
>

Mind the wrap :-)

http://www.simply.co.uk/productinfor...16/WW/BUFFALO_
11MBPS_SLIMLINE_PCMCIA_CARD/
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Old 02-05-2005, 05:03 PM
Martin Underwood
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"Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) t...
> In article <4204df36$0$47240$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "Martin Underwood" (E-Mail Removed) says...
>> Do any manufacturers make a PCMCIA wireless card or a USB wireless access
>> point that has drivers for NT4? A quick check on the DLink, Netgear and
>> Belkin sites shows that the currently-available cards only support 98,
>> Win
>> 2K and Win XP.
>>

> Mind the wrap :-)
>
> http://www.simply.co.uk/productinfor...16/WW/BUFFALO_
> 11MBPS_SLIMLINE_PCMCIA_CARD/


Thanks. This card looks promising... as long as the laptop has the right
type of slot. Is the distinction between cardbus/32bit and 16bit pcmcia the
same distinction as between Type I and Type II? The Buffalo card says it
needs a Type II slot. When I eventually get to see the laptop, how do I tell
what sort of slots it has - are they identified as PCMCIA/Cardbus,
16/32-bit, Type I/II in Device Manager?

If I draw a blank with a plug-in card, I may still be able to use an
Ethernet connection to an access point... if the PC has an Ethernet port.

Trying to spec a solution without seeing the hardware is a bit
hit-and-miss...



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Old 02-05-2005, 08:15 PM
Al Reeve
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"Martin Underwood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Do any manufacturers make a PCMCIA wireless card or a USB wireless access
> point that has drivers for NT4? A quick check on the DLink, Netgear and
> Belkin sites shows that the currently-available cards only support 98, Win
> 2K and Win XP.
>
> A customer wants to set up a wireless network that includes a laptop that
> has NT4 installed. If I can't get a wireless card / USB access point that
> supports NT4, I'm a bit stumped - unless he's able to upgrade the laptop

to
> XP. Unfortunately a wired solution isn't feasable because of the

difficulty
> in routing a cable through the house. I haven't seen the laptop so I'm not
> sure if it has an Ethernet port built in - if it has, it's highly likely
> that this will have drivers, in which case it's a simple matter to connect

a
> conventional access point to this port.
>


IIRC NT4 does not support USB in any shape or form!
Al Reeve


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Old 02-05-2005, 09:39 PM
Martin Underwood
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"Al Reeve" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:cu39gt$cti$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> "Martin Underwood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:4204df36$0$47240$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Do any manufacturers make a PCMCIA wireless card or a USB wireless access
>> point that has drivers for NT4? A quick check on the DLink, Netgear and
>> Belkin sites shows that the currently-available cards only support 98,
>> Win
>> 2K and Win XP.
>>
>> A customer wants to set up a wireless network that includes a laptop that
>> has NT4 installed. If I can't get a wireless card / USB access point that
>> supports NT4, I'm a bit stumped - unless he's able to upgrade the laptop

> to
>> XP. Unfortunately a wired solution isn't feasable because of the

> difficulty
>> in routing a cable through the house. I haven't seen the laptop so I'm
>> not
>> sure if it has an Ethernet port built in - if it has, it's highly likely
>> that this will have drivers, in which case it's a simple matter to
>> connect

> a
>> conventional access point to this port.

>
> IIRC NT4 does not support USB in any shape or form!


OK. That's that suggestion shot down in flames :-( I'd forgotten just how
ANCIENT NT4 is. I can remember working with it on a project that finished in
1996, and from memory we'd probably had it about 2 years by then. Positively
prehistoric.

Unless the laptop has an Ethernet port (to connect to a wireless access
point) or can take Type II plug-in cards (as required by the Buffalo card
http://www.simply.co.uk/productinfor...E_PCMCIA_CARD/
that Rob Morley suggested earlier in this thread) then I think the answer is
going to be that the customer will need to upgrade the laptop to at least
Win 2K and preferably Win XP... assuming its spec is high enough. Sod's Law
it's going to have a mere 16 MB of memory or something like that.

As I asked earlier, how does one distinguish between Type I and Type II card
slots and/or 16/32-bit and/or PCMCIA/Cardbus - either by looking at the slot
or from something like Device Manager?


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Old 02-05-2005, 09:52 PM
Lurch
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 21:39:34 -0000, "Martin Underwood" <(E-Mail Removed)>
strung together this:

>> IIRC NT4 does not support USB in any shape or form!

>

You remember correctly, definitely not in any way shape or form!

>As I asked earlier, how does one distinguish between Type I and Type II card
>slots and/or 16/32-bit and/or PCMCIA/Cardbus - either by looking at the slot
>or from something like Device Manager?
>

Everest from Lavalys will, (I think, but my laptops gone wonky so
can't test), provide cardbus and PCMCIA device specifics.

The other option is find out the make\model and Google to see what was
supplied.
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Old 02-06-2005, 12:30 AM
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"Martin Underwood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) t...
> > In article <4204df36$0$47240$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> > "Martin Underwood" (E-Mail Removed) says...
> >> Do any manufacturers make a PCMCIA wireless card or a USB wireless

access
> >> point that has drivers for NT4? A quick check on the DLink, Netgear and
> >> Belkin sites shows that the currently-available cards only support 98,
> >> Win
> >> 2K and Win XP.
> >>

> > Mind the wrap :-)
> >
> > http://www.simply.co.uk/productinfor...16/WW/BUFFALO_
> > 11MBPS_SLIMLINE_PCMCIA_CARD/

>
> Thanks. This card looks promising... as long as the laptop has the right
> type of slot. Is the distinction between cardbus/32bit and 16bit pcmcia

the
> same distinction as between Type I and Type II? The Buffalo card says it
> needs a Type II slot. When I eventually get to see the laptop, how do I

tell
> what sort of slots it has - are they identified as PCMCIA/Cardbus,
> 16/32-bit, Type I/II in Device Manager?
>


The type is basically te card thickness. Most laptops sopprot 2x Type I or
II or one one Type III.


> If I draw a blank with a plug-in card, I may still be able to use an
> Ethernet connection to an access point... if the PC has an Ethernet port.
>
> Trying to spec a solution without seeing the hardware is a bit
> hit-and-miss...
>
>
>



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