Network wth two independent ADSL connections - set up advice required

Can anyone confirm whether it is possible to set up the following proposed home
network set up.

1 x 512/256 ADSL connection via Netgear DG814 4 port router/hub - connecting 3
PC's. 2 x win2k Pro 1 x Win XP Home
1 x 512/256 ADSL connection via Netgear DG814G wireless 4 port router/hub -
connecting 2 laptops (wireless) 1 x XP Pro, 1 x XP Home

Idea is to link the two hubs via a Cat5 cable so that file and printer sharing
is possible between all PCs and Laptops. I'd like to route all traffic from
specific PC's to a specific ADSL connection(web and email connections), and have
the ability to direct other PCs to the other ADSL connection (web and email and
online gaming). Is this possible through the setting up of default gateways?
OR ?????

In a perfect set up all web/email traffic from any PC (no mail server on the
home network) goes via one ADSL and online gaming, from any PC, uses the other
ADSL connection. I'm not sure this is possible however. Maybe by using
software solutions? (E.g. Wingate proxies for 1 PC to route UDP/TCP gaming
traffic to the default gateway for that PC).

Suggestions appreciated

Bob




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Mal Ice

"Mal Ice" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Can anyone confirm whether it is possible to set up the following proposed
home
> network set up.
>
> 1 x 512/256 ADSL connection via Netgear DG814 4 port router/hub -
connecting 3
> PC's. 2 x win2k Pro 1 x Win XP Home
> 1 x 512/256 ADSL connection via Netgear DG814G wireless 4 port
router/hub -
> connecting 2 laptops (wireless) 1 x XP Pro, 1 x XP Home
>
> Idea is to link the two hubs via a Cat5 cable so that file and printer
sharing
> is possible between all PCs and Laptops. I'd like to route all traffic
from
> specific PC's to a specific ADSL connection(web and email connections),
and have
> the ability to direct other PCs to the other ADSL connection (web and
email and
> online gaming). Is this possible through the setting up of default
gateways?

Yes this should work fine. I believe you can set a number of default
gateways, so I'm wonding if you could enter the other ADSL router as a
backup? Anyone care to comment?


> In a perfect set up all web/email traffic from any PC (no mail server on
the
> home network) goes via one ADSL and online gaming, from any PC, uses the
other
> ADSL connection. I'm not sure this is possible however. Maybe by using
> software solutions? (E.g. Wingate proxies for 1 PC to route UDP/TCP
gaming
> traffic to the default gateway for that PC).

Not 100% sure on this one but the idea seems sound

Rob

"Rob Walker" wrote:

>Yes this should work fine. I believe you can set a number of default
>gateways, so I'm wonding if you could enter the other ADSL router as a
>backup? Anyone care to comment?

I don't have the complication of wireless networking but have a number
of gateways on my LAN (2x ADSL, 2x ISDN). With Windows XP, different
IP destinations can be defined to be routed via a particular gateway,
eg (at MS DOS prompt)

route add 212.58.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 <gateway_1_IP_address>

would cause any traffic to 212.58.*.* to go via gateway #1 whatever
the default setting for the PC is. If one uses Win 98 or earlier,
a linux box may be used to determine which gateway to use, BICBW :-)

On Fri, 21 May 2004 23:25:32 GMT, poster <us-(E-Mail Removed)> wrotf:

> "Rob Walker" wrote:
>
>>Yes this should work fine. I believe you can set a number of default
>>gateways, so I'm wonding if you could enter the other ADSL router as a
>>backup? Anyone care to comment?
>
>I don't have the complication of wireless networking but have a number
>of gateways on my LAN (2x ADSL, 2x ISDN). With Windows XP, different
>IP destinations can be defined to be routed via a particular gateway,
>eg (at MS DOS prompt)
>
> route add 212.58.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 <gateway_1_IP_address>
>
>would cause any traffic to 212.58.*.* to go via gateway #1 whatever
>the default setting for the PC is. If one uses Win 98 or earlier,
>a linux box may be used to determine which gateway to use, BICBW :-)

So to build on what you wrote........

If connected via DHCP to Router one (default gateway #1) and I wanted ALL
traffic to go to Router and gateway #2 (DHCP for a different range of PC's
connected to the router directly), EXCEPT traffic to a few specific IP's which
remain on Gateway #1, how would this be achieved?

Is it:

route add 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0 <gateway #2>
route add aa.bb.cc.dd mask 255.255.255.255 <gateway #1>
route add ab.bb.cb.db mask 255.255.255.255 <gateway #1>
......
?

If so, should I be able to do this with static route entries in the router
software config? (Netgear DG814 and DG834W) I've tried this option but it does
not appear to work... !!

TIA

Mal


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On 22 May 2004 Mal Ice <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>If connected via DHCP to Router one (default gateway #1) and I wanted ALL
>traffic to go to Router and gateway #2 (DHCP for a different range of PC's
>connected to the router directly), EXCEPT traffic to a few specific IP's which
>remain on Gateway #1, how would this be achieved?

>route add 0.0.0.0 mask 0.0.0.0 <gateway #2>
>route add aa.bb.cc.dd mask 255.255.255.255 <gateway #1>
>route add ab.bb.cb.db mask 255.255.255.255 <gateway #1>

I experimented a little. When I tried the first rule, it was
misinterpreted as handling only IP address 0.0.0.0 for g/w #2
so I substituted that entry with

route add 0.0.0.0 mask 128.0.0.0 <gateway #2>
route add 128.0.0.0 mask 128.0.0.0 <gateway #2>

you should then be able to add entries such as

route add aa.bb.cc.dd <gateway #1>

[ mask 255.255.255.255 is default for single addresses ]


>If so, should I be able to do this with static route entries in the router
>software config? (Netgear DG814 and DG834W) I've tried this option but
>it does not appear to work... !!

Surely you need to be forcing the PCs to send data to the right g/w,
so I'm unsure what would be achieved with entries in these routers.

On Sat, 22 May 2004 20:05:25 GMT, poster <us-(E-Mail Removed)> wrotf:

>O
>
>>If so, should I be able to do this with static route entries in the router
>>software config? (Netgear DG814 and DG834W) I've tried this option but
>>it does not appear to work... !!
>
>Surely you need to be forcing the PCs to send data to the right g/w,
>so I'm unsure what would be achieved with entries in these routers.

I only have to create and maontain the routings on two routers rather than every
PC.

Mal



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