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Old 05-05-2004, 08:21 PM
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I have just had broadband installed at home with NTL
(no direct debit i add) and the modem had both USB
and Ethernet sockets, i am using the USB, can i run the
install package from the CD on my daughters Laptop
and connect through the Ethernet to update things?

Thanks
Alan




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Old 05-05-2004, 09:13 PM
BRG
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"Alan Crowder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:c7bepo
$4vk$(E-Mail Removed):

> I have just had broadband installed at home with NTL
> (no direct debit i add) and the modem had both USB
> and Ethernet sockets, i am using the USB, can i run the
> install package from the CD on my daughters Laptop
> and connect through the Ethernet to update things?
>
> Thanks
> Alan
>

You can use either interface, but only for one PC at a time. If you
want to connect the two simultaneously you'd be best off using a
router.

Have a look here for guidance: http://www.networklab.co.uk/cmodem/

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Old 05-05-2004, 10:50 PM
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In article <c7bepo$4vk$(E-Mail Removed)>, Alan Crowder wrote:
> I have just had broadband installed at home with NTL
> (no direct debit i add) and the modem had both USB
> and Ethernet sockets, i am using the USB, can i run the
> install package from the CD on my daughters Laptop
> and connect through the Ethernet to update things?


Further to BRG's reply, you have to choose whether to use the USB
or ethernet port on the modem; you can't use both. I have a
Belkin 4-port DSL/cable router which was dead easy to set up. To
avoid tinkering with the PCs which have only USB ports I used USB
to ethernet adapters (D-Link).

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Old 05-06-2004, 07:47 AM
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"BRG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:Xns94E0D7B59FDCABRGxxx@130.133.1.4...
> "Alan Crowder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:c7bepo
> $4vk$(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > I have just had broadband installed at home with NTL
> > (no direct debit i add) and the modem had both USB
> > and Ethernet sockets, i am using the USB, can i run the
> > install package from the CD on my daughters Laptop
> > and connect through the Ethernet to update things?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Alan
> >

> You can use either interface, but only for one PC at a time. If you
> want to connect the two simultaneously you'd be best off using a
> router.
>
> Have a look here for guidance: http://www.networklab.co.uk/cmodem/



Not a bad site that, ok, one further question, if i come direct from the
modem to
a nice new 3com switch, can i link the two PC's together?

I guess i would need a crossover cable between the switch and modem yes?

Thanks again

Alan


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Old 05-06-2004, 10:07 AM
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 07:47:01 +0100, in uk.comp.home-networking "Alan
Crowder" <(E-Mail Removed)> strung together this:

>Not a bad site that, ok, one further question, if i come direct from the
>modem to
>a nice new 3com switch, can i link the two PC's together?
>

Yes

>I guess i would need a crossover cable between the switch and modem yes?
>

No, or yes. Most modems and half decent hubs are auto sensing so you
can use either. I haven't fitted a crossover cable to anything for
years!
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Old 05-06-2004, 01:59 PM
Jock Mackirdy
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In article <c7cn15$h6d$(E-Mail Removed)>, Alan Crowder wrote:

> Not a bad site that, ok, one further question, if i come direct from the
> modem to
> a nice new 3com switch, can i link the two PC's together?
>
> I guess i would need a crossover cable between the switch and modem yes?


AFAIK a switch won't allow you to access the modem from two PCs at the
same time. You need a router (which also has the benefit of a hardware
firewall).


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Old 05-06-2004, 02:08 PM
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"Alan Crowder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:c7cn15$h6d$(E-Mail Removed):

>
> "BRG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns94E0D7B59FDCABRGxxx@130.133.1.4...
>> "Alan Crowder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> news:c7bepo $4vk$(E-Mail Removed):
>>
>> > I have just had broadband installed at home with NTL
>> > (no direct debit i add) and the modem had both USB
>> > and Ethernet sockets, i am using the USB, can i run the
>> > install package from the CD on my daughters Laptop
>> > and connect through the Ethernet to update things?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Alan
>> >

>> You can use either interface, but only for one PC at a time. If
>> you want to connect the two simultaneously you'd be best off
>> using a router.
>>
>> Have a look here for guidance:
>> http://www.networklab.co.uk/cmodem/

>
>
> Not a bad site that, ok, one further question, if i come direct
> from the modem to
> a nice new 3com switch, can i link the two PC's together?
>
> I guess i would need a crossover cable between the switch and
> modem yes?
>
> Thanks again
>
> Alan
>
>


You'd also need a router to provide network address translation
capability. A router typically incorporates a switch and even a
wireless access point, but a switch on its own wouldn't be enough.

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Old 05-06-2004, 07:58 PM
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Soni tempori elseu romani yeof helsforo nisson ol sefini ill des Thu, 6 May
2004 07:47:01 +0100, sefini jorgo geanyet des mani yeof do
uk.comp.home-networking, yawatina tan reek esk "Alan Crowder"
<(E-Mail Removed)> fornis do marikano es bono tan el:

>Not a bad site that, ok, one further question, if i come direct from the
>modem to
>a nice new 3com switch, can i link the two PC's together?


Yes, but you can't just connect a modem to a switch - you have to connect it
to a router.


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Old 05-14-2004, 11:47 AM
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On Wed, 5 May 2004 20:21:58 +0100, Alan Crowder wrote:

> I have just had broadband installed at home with NTL
> (no direct debit i add) and the modem had both USB
> and Ethernet sockets, i am using the USB, can i run the
> install package from the CD on my daughters Laptop
> and connect through the Ethernet to update things?
>
> Thanks
> Alan


No, you can't do that. You can only have one device connected to the cable
modem and it must either be the USB *or* Ethernet connection.

You could set-up a LAN for connecting multiple computers to your broadband
connection. If you need some help or advice visit the forums at
www.cm-forums.co.uk

Regards

Bill
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Old 05-14-2004, 11:47 AM
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 07:47:01 +0100, Alan Crowder wrote:

> "BRG" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:Xns94E0D7B59FDCABRGxxx@130.133.1.4...
>> "Alan Crowder" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:c7bepo
>> $4vk$(E-Mail Removed):
>>
>>> I have just had broadband installed at home with NTL
>>> (no direct debit i add) and the modem had both USB
>>> and Ethernet sockets, i am using the USB, can i run the
>>> install package from the CD on my daughters Laptop
>>> and connect through the Ethernet to update things?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Alan
>>>

>> You can use either interface, but only for one PC at a time. If you
>> want to connect the two simultaneously you'd be best off using a
>> router.
>>
>> Have a look here for guidance: http://www.networklab.co.uk/cmodem/

>
> Not a bad site that, ok, one further question, if i come direct from the
> modem to
> a nice new 3com switch, can i link the two PC's together?
>
> I guess i would need a crossover cable between the switch and modem yes?
>
> Thanks again
>
> Alan


No, you can't do that either. You need to install a router if you want more
than one PC to access your broadband connection.

Regards

Bill
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