Will this Work - Netgear DM602 + Belkin Wireless DSL/Cable Gateway Router ?

Hi,

I plan to buy a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem & a Belkin Wireless
DSL/Router. Plan is as follows:-

1. Connect Netgear DM602 to Demon DSL line
2. Connect Netgear DM602 to Belkin F5D7230uk4 Wireless Router
3. Direct connect Belkin Wireless Router to Desktop PCI card
4. Connect wirelessly to Belkin Router with existing laptop wireless
PCMCIA card

My Plan of attack is to configure the DM602 to link into Demon on an
express solo setup. Once that is working I hope I can reconnect as
above and with the wonders of Belkin's auto detect wizzard - hope it
somehow glues my system together...

In a similar way I hope I win this week's christmas lottery, yet
somthing tells me it wont be so simple.

I am particularly off-put by the word "router" on the Netgear DM602
box, which suggests I am connecting a router to router - No (??)

Any ideas (or suggested lottery numbers) would be very welcome

Happy Christmas !

PS. Have you noticed the masses of returned Network / ADSL boxes in PC
World. Looks like lots of us will be taking things back on Boxing Day.

Sandra & Andrew






andrew@sandrew.demon.co.uk

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Hi,
>
> I plan to buy a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem & a Belkin Wireless
> DSL/Router. Plan is as follows:-
>
> 1. Connect Netgear DM602 to Demon DSL line
> 2. Connect Netgear DM602 to Belkin F5D7230uk4 Wireless Router
> 3. Direct connect Belkin Wireless Router to Desktop PCI card
> 4. Connect wirelessly to Belkin Router with existing laptop wireless
> PCMCIA card
>
Why not just get something like the D-Link DSL 604+ which is a 4 port
10/100 Wireless ADSL Modem router? Does everything in one box.

--
Conor

"Cogito Eggo Sum" - "I think, therefore I am a waffle"

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 03:46:24 -0000, Conor <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
>(E-Mail Removed) says...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I plan to buy a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem & a Belkin Wireless
>> DSL/Router. Plan is as follows:-
>>
>> 1. Connect Netgear DM602 to Demon DSL line
>> 2. Connect Netgear DM602 to Belkin F5D7230uk4 Wireless Router
>> 3. Direct connect Belkin Wireless Router to Desktop PCI card
>> 4. Connect wirelessly to Belkin Router with existing laptop wireless
>> PCMCIA card
>>
>Why not just get something like the D-Link DSL 604+ which is a 4 port
>10/100 Wireless ADSL Modem router? Does everything in one box.

Thanks for that ... but I need to get my laptop to hook up wirelessly;
hence the Wireless Router. I am concerned however, that I may be
attaching a wireless router to an ADSL modem router - will this work ?

I am heading this way as I want to allow my laptop to access the
wireless router + modem router without having to turn on my desktop
PC. (that is what I am not going for 100% external gear)

- Has anyone else succeeded in doing this ?

"Andrew & Sandra" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 03:46:24 -0000, Conor <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> >(E-Mail Removed) says...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I plan to buy a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem & a Belkin Wireless
> >> DSL/Router. Plan is as follows:-
> >>
> >> 1. Connect Netgear DM602 to Demon DSL line
> >> 2. Connect Netgear DM602 to Belkin F5D7230uk4 Wireless Router
> >> 3. Direct connect Belkin Wireless Router to Desktop PCI card
> >> 4. Connect wirelessly to Belkin Router with existing laptop wireless
> >> PCMCIA card
> >>
> >Why not just get something like the D-Link DSL 604+ which is a 4 port
> >10/100 Wireless ADSL Modem router? Does everything in one box.
>
> Thanks for that ... but I need to get my laptop to hook up wirelessly;
> hence the Wireless Router. I am concerned however, that I may be
> attaching a wireless router to an ADSL modem router - will this work ?
>
> I am heading this way as I want to allow my laptop to access the
> wireless router + modem router without having to turn on my desktop
> PC. (that is what I am not going for 100% external gear)
>
> - Has anyone else succeeded in doing this ?
>

I don't understand why you feel you need two boxes....!? You can get 'all in
one' Wireless Access Point/4 port Wired Router/ADSL Modem. Belkin (7630) do
one of these now too - there *are* others out there. A mate of mine has just
bought the Netgear DG834G which works well and he had no problem installing
it. He connects the unit to his phone line for ADSL and via one of the four
ethernet sockets to his desktop PC. His daughters laptop then connects
wirelessly via a PCMCIA wireless lan card to the netgear unit. They can then
surf the 'net net without problem and transfer files between PC's etc.

If you leave the Netgear unit on it makes no difference if the desktop is on
or not, the Netgear dials up the ADSL connection on demand for you. I
suggest you do some research on the various websites and download the
various manuals in Acrobat so you know what you are buying before you make
your decision. (I have a Netgear wirelss Router WGR614 which connects via
ethernet to my broadband cable modem and connects to the PC downstairs
wirelessly - it all works well).

If you're trying to save money www.ebuyer.co.uk sell some none branded
equipment very cheaply that does the job quite well. Don't forget 802.11b is
fast enough for surfing, you only need the faster standard for file transfer
or faster tasks.....

I wouldn't proclaim to be an expert but what I have bought all works and
works well, I hope that helps.

Patrick
Worcs

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I plan to buy a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem & a Belkin Wireless
> DSL/Router. Plan is as follows:-
>
> 1. Connect Netgear DM602 to Demon DSL line
> 2. Connect Netgear DM602 to Belkin F5D7230uk4 Wireless Router
> 3. Direct connect Belkin Wireless Router to Desktop PCI card
> 4. Connect wirelessly to Belkin Router with existing laptop wireless
> PCMCIA card

Belkin Wireless Router would connect to an ethernet port not a PCI card...


> My Plan of attack is to configure the DM602 to link into Demon on an
> express solo setup. Once that is working I hope I can reconnect as
> above and with the wonders of Belkin's auto detect wizzard - hope it
> somehow glues my system together...
>
> In a similar way I hope I win this week's christmas lottery, yet
> somthing tells me it wont be so simple.
>
> I am particularly off-put by the word "router" on the Netgear DM602
> box, which suggests I am connecting a router to router - No (??)
>
> Any ideas (or suggested lottery numbers) would be very welcome

Yes, what you describe should work as the DM602 seems to contain an ADSL
modem as well (see below)

However, it sounds to me like you haven't brought any of this kit yet, so
why not buy one of the following "All in One" solutions instead:

Belkin model: F5D7630uk4a
Netgear DG834G
Linksys WAG54G (due to be released next month)
US Robotics USR9106
Draytek Vigor 2600G

As they all contain a built in ADSL modem - it would mean just having to
deal with one box and is likely to be cheaper as well.

All of the above solutions have inbuilt support for 802.11g/54G wireless,
though if its only for sharing an internet connection, equipment based on
the older/slower 802.11b standard should suit you as well.

> PS. Have you noticed the masses of returned Network / ADSL boxes in PC
> World. Looks like lots of us will be taking things back on Boxing Day.

Yes, I think it comes down to my comment about if something contains an ADSL
modems (or not) - those versions sold as "broadband routers" tend not to
(they work fine with cable modems etc), while those sold as "ADSL
modems/routers" do.

However, if someone sees the words "broadband router" and has just got an
ADSL line... !

Regards
Sunil

"Andrew & Sandra" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 03:46:24 -0000, Conor <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> >(E-Mail Removed) says...
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I plan to buy a Netgear DM602 ADSL Modem & a Belkin Wireless
> >> DSL/Router. Plan is as follows:-
> >>
> >> 1. Connect Netgear DM602 to Demon DSL line
> >> 2. Connect Netgear DM602 to Belkin F5D7230uk4 Wireless Router
> >> 3. Direct connect Belkin Wireless Router to Desktop PCI card
> >> 4. Connect wirelessly to Belkin Router with existing laptop
wireless
> >> PCMCIA card
> >>
> >Why not just get something like the D-Link DSL 604+ which is a 4 port
> >10/100 Wireless ADSL Modem router? Does everything in one box.
>
> Thanks for that ... but I need to get my laptop to hook up wirelessly;
> hence the Wireless Router. I am concerned however, that I may be
> attaching a wireless router to an ADSL modem router - will this work ?
>
> I am heading this way as I want to allow my laptop to access the
> wireless router + modem router without having to turn on my desktop
> PC. (that is what I am not going for 100% external gear)
>
> - Has anyone else succeeded in doing this ?

It think the 'D-Link DSL 604+' suggested has Wireless facilities
built-in, so you're ok on that point.
The Netgear DG834G appears similar.

Alternatively, if you go the way of separate boxes, instead of a
wireless router you could use a Wireless Access Point and a separate
hub, losing the router function which you'd have in the Netgear unit.
It's a bit messy though, and having a quick look around I couldn't see
any WAP/hub units as opposed to WAP/routers.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...

> Thanks for that ... but I need to get my laptop to hook up wirelessly;
> hence the Wireless Router.

Err, thats what a DSL 604+ is. Its a 4 port router with a built in ADSL
modem and wireless networking. It is how I connect. Desktop wired to
router and laptop using Wireless PCMCIA card.


--
Conor

"Cogito Eggo Sum" - "I think, therefore I am a waffle"

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...

> I am heading this way as I want to allow my laptop to access the
> wireless router + modem router without having to turn on my desktop
> PC. (that is what I am not going for 100% external gear)
>
> - Has anyone else succeeded in doing this ?
>
I'VE JUST FUCKING WELL TOLD YOU WHAT YOU NEED. Goddamn it. The D-Link
DSL 604+ is a router with BUILT IN ADSL MODEM AND WIRELESS NETWORKING.
It does everything you want.

--
Conor

"Cogito Eggo Sum" - "I think, therefore I am a waffle"

> I'VE JUST FUCKING WELL TOLD YOU WHAT YOU NEED. Goddamn it. The D-Link
> DSL 604+ is a router with BUILT IN ADSL MODEM AND WIRELESS NETWORKING.
> It does everything you want.

Rolling on floor laughing my buns off.

Ah, it's like the tech support "keep rapidly power cycling the PSU until the
problem is resolved".
The rule with anything is K-I-S-S, and it most definately applies with
mixing networking kit.

Fewer boxes might actually save enough to get closer to 54Mbps network
(altho that would
be gross overkill & unnecessary for basic internet use - more useful for
file transfers re size).

If you need the Internet for anything important, keep a backup pay-as-you-go
modem option
available since Broadband does occasionally go down and your equipment can
fail. Fewer boxes
reduces the probability of failure, and Netgear equipment is quite
reasonable in price/reliability.
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