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Old 10-23-2003, 09:06 PM
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Is it easy to make up your own RJ45 cables? Any negatives? Proper tool
required etc?Any good UK suppliers?

I'd prefer to feed just the cabling in and out of walls rather than with the
plugs on.

cheers
Steven




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Old 10-23-2003, 09:18 PM
Rob Morley
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Steven Campbell <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Is it easy to make up your own RJ45 cables? Any negatives? Proper tool
> required etc?Any good UK suppliers?
>
> I'd prefer to feed just the cabling in and out of walls rather than with the
> plugs on.
>

If you're feeding it through walls then you want sockets on the end, not
plugs. Easy enough to fit - they're just punchdown connectors that you
can do with a cheap tool. All you have to do is get the wires in the
right order.
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Old 10-25-2003, 04:04 PM
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Yes definately go for wall sockets then buy 1m patch cables to link it up.

Speaking from experience, doing it the other way is a great way to induce
hair loss.

Get a decent crimper, you will appreciate it, believe me.

Rob Morley wrote:
> Steven Campbell <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Is it easy to make up your own RJ45 cables? Any negatives? Proper
>> tool required etc?Any good UK suppliers?
>>
>> I'd prefer to feed just the cabling in and out of walls rather than
>> with the plugs on.
>>

> If you're feeding it through walls then you want sockets on the end,
> not plugs. Easy enough to fit - they're just punchdown connectors
> that you
> can do with a cheap tool. All you have to do is get the wires in the
> right order.



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Old 10-26-2003, 10:25 AM
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"Steven Campbell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Is it easy to make up your own RJ45 cables? Any negatives? Proper tool
> required etc?Any good UK suppliers?
>
> I'd prefer to feed just the cabling in and out of walls rather than with

the
> plugs on.
>
> cheers
> Steven
>
>


Use surface mount wall sockets and patch cables -- just by a newtwork
cabling starter kit from Maplin or a B&Q Wharehose mega store -- I think
Screwfix also car them now. It includes everything you need to cable a small
network including decent instructions and a punch down tool.


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Old 10-26-2003, 10:31 AM
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"Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Steven Campbell <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > Is it easy to make up your own RJ45 cables? Any negatives? Proper tool
> > required etc?Any good UK suppliers?
> >
> > I'd prefer to feed just the cabling in and out of walls rather than with

the
> > plugs on.
> >

> If you're feeding it through walls then you want sockets on the end, not
> plugs. Easy enough to fit - they're just punchdown connectors that you
> can do with a cheap tool. All you have to do is get the wires in the
> right order.


I suppose that makes sense. I was originally just going to buy 30m patch
cables but the surface mount boxes sound much better. I will though still
have to attach the RJ45 connecters at one end. Easy enough I take it.





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Old 10-26-2003, 10:39 AM
Steven Campbell
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> > required etc?Any good UK suppliers?
> >
> > I'd prefer to feed just the cabling in and out of walls rather than with

> the
> > plugs on.
> >
> > cheers
> > Steven
> >
> >

>
> Use surface mount wall sockets and patch cables -- just by a newtwork
> cabling starter kit from Maplin or a B&Q Wharehose mega store -- I think
> Screwfix also car them now. It includes everything you need to cable a

small
> network including decent instructions and a punch down tool.


I had a look at B&Q the other day. I thought the price was really good. Plus
their suppliers http://www.philex.co.uk deliver free of charge.

There is so many kinds of cabling. Shielded / unshielded etc.What should be
used for a standard network. Is it just any standard Cat 5? Although I see
some Cat 6 cables are just as cheap.

Steven




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Old 10-26-2003, 12:07 PM
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Steven Campbell <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> > Steven Campbell <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > > Is it easy to make up your own RJ45 cables? Any negatives? Proper tool
> > > required etc?Any good UK suppliers?
> > >
> > > I'd prefer to feed just the cabling in and out of walls rather than with

> the
> > > plugs on.
> > >

> > If you're feeding it through walls then you want sockets on the end, not
> > plugs. Easy enough to fit - they're just punchdown connectors that you
> > can do with a cheap tool. All you have to do is get the wires in the
> > right order.

>
> I suppose that makes sense. I was originally just going to buy 30m patch
> cables but the surface mount boxes sound much better. I will though still
> have to attach the RJ45 connecters at one end. Easy enough I take it.
>

You don't attach a plug at either end - just punch the cable into the
back of the socket at each end, then conect to your PC with a patch cable
that comes pre-made with two plugs. For fixed wiring you use single-core
Cat5e/Cat6, which gives a cleaner signal but isn't very flexible. Patch
cables are multi-stranded, which makes them good for short flexible
connections.
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Old 10-26-2003, 12:14 PM
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Steven Campbell <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > > required etc?Any good UK suppliers?
> > >
> > > I'd prefer to feed just the cabling in and out of walls rather than with

> > the
> > > plugs on.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > Steven
> > >
> > >

> >
> > Use surface mount wall sockets and patch cables -- just by a newtwork
> > cabling starter kit from Maplin or a B&Q Wharehose mega store -- I think
> > Screwfix also car them now. It includes everything you need to cable a

> small
> > network including decent instructions and a punch down tool.

>
> I had a look at B&Q the other day. I thought the price was really good. Plus
> their suppliers http://www.philex.co.uk deliver free of charge.
>
> There is so many kinds of cabling. Shielded / unshielded etc.What should be
> used for a standard network. Is it just any standard Cat 5? Although I see
> some Cat 6 cables are just as cheap.
>

Unshielded solid (single-strand) Cat5e or Cat6 is what you want for
ordinary fixed cabling.
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Old 10-26-2003, 04:10 PM
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"Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Steven Campbell <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >
> > "Rob Morley" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed) .com...
> > > Steven Campbell <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > > > Is it easy to make up your own RJ45 cables? Any negatives? Proper

tool
> > > > required etc?Any good UK suppliers?
> > > >
> > > > I'd prefer to feed just the cabling in and out of walls rather than

with
> > the
> > > > plugs on.
> > > >
> > > If you're feeding it through walls then you want sockets on the end,

not
> > > plugs. Easy enough to fit - they're just punchdown connectors that

you
> > > can do with a cheap tool. All you have to do is get the wires in the
> > > right order.

> >
> > I suppose that makes sense. I was originally just going to buy 30m patch
> > cables but the surface mount boxes sound much better. I will though

still
> > have to attach the RJ45 connecters at one end. Easy enough I take it.
> >

> You don't attach a plug at either end - just punch the cable into the
> back of the socket at each end, then conect to your PC with a patch cable
> that comes pre-made with two plugs. For fixed wiring you use single-core
> Cat5e/Cat6, which gives a cleaner signal but isn't very flexible. Patch
> cables are multi-stranded, which makes them good for short flexible
> connections.


The penny has dropped now. Can you get sockets that take multiple cables?

Steven


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Old 10-26-2003, 04:21 PM
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"Steven Campbell" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> I had a look at B&Q the other day. I thought the price was really good.

Plus
> their suppliers http://www.philex.co.uk deliver free of charge.
>
> There is so many kinds of cabling. Shielded / unshielded etc.What should

be
> used for a standard network. Is it just any standard Cat 5? Although I

see
> some Cat 6 cables are just as cheap.
>
> Steven
>


For domestic use unshielded CAT5e "UTP" is the usual norm but buying the
starter kit is the best way to go as it has everything in it -- 4 medium
length patch cables, 4 sockets, loads of cat5 UTP cable and the punch down
tool.


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