Re: should aol be listed in rfc-ignorant.org???

Mike Scott in <(E-Mail Removed)>:

>I wonder if aol should be listed? It's certainly a pain that they
>reject dynamic IP connections, but they might at least follow the
>rules when they do. My reading of 2821 shows:

Heh. I have been there getting my static ip delisted from AOL's
network, there is no way to contact the postmaster, and when you do
eventually get in touch, they reply that the ip is still a residential
i.
>
>"4.1.1.10 QUIT (QUIT)
>
> This command specifies that the receiver MUST send an OK reply, and
> then close the transmission channel."
>
>Todays' transcipt of some failed email seems to show they give a 554
>error in response to QUIT - or am I misreading the bounce message?
>
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
><(E-Mail Removed)>
> (reason: 554- (RTR:BB) The IP address you are using to connect to
>AOL is a dynamic)
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----

[...]

Actually the connection drops after that 5xx multiline response. By
the looks of it the MTA you are using doesn't seem to be coping with
the multiline response, or it didn't like the connection dropping in
this way.

Andrew.


Andrew Hodgson

On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:29:28 +0100, Andrew Hodgson
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Mike Scott in <(E-Mail Removed)>:
....
>>"4.1.1.10 QUIT (QUIT)
>>
>> This command specifies that the receiver MUST send an OK reply, and
>> then close the transmission channel."
>>
>>Todays' transcipt of some failed email seems to show they give a 554
>>error in response to QUIT - or am I misreading the bounce message?
>>
>> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
>><(E-Mail Removed)>
>> (reason: 554- (RTR:BB) The IP address you are using to connect to
>>AOL is a dynamic)
>>
>> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>
>[...]
>
>Actually the connection drops after that 5xx multiline response. By
>the looks of it the MTA you are using doesn't seem to be coping with
>the multiline response, or it didn't like the connection dropping in
>this way.

You've puzzled me - doesn't the log clearly show aol repeatedly giving
a (5-line) 554 in response to my 'quit'? And it's my end that finally
closes?

This is sendmail, btw, v 8.12.6

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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 09:52:07 +0100, Andrew Hodgson
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>>You've puzzled me - doesn't the log clearly show aol repeatedly giving
>>a (5-line) 554 in response to my 'quit'? And it's my end that finally
>>closes?
>
>Check the log of the MTA - it looks like it is repeatedly trying to
>connect to the server and getting that immediate disconnect.

The log's long since rotated to nothingness. iirc though, there was
only the one connect attempt noted in it.

>>
>>This is sendmail, btw, v 8.12.6
>
>Thaught so - I am not sure why this is, although all the Sendmail
>installations I have access to logs on are not affected by this
>problem. Qmail certainly handles it ok here, though the message is
>continuiously postponed until the maximum number of days is reached,
>when it is bounced back with a message that it is not going to try
>again.

Maybe I'll just not email anyone on aol ever again :-) It's easier!

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