Win95 \\share is not accessable. Not logged on.

I am trying to network a Windows 95 computer ( T66 - a Toshiba 660CDT)
to a Windows 98SE computer (Wanda).

I can Start | Find Computer and Wanda shows up
but when I double click on the found computer I get the message:
"\\wanda is not accessable. Not logged on."

When I try to browse the entire network in Network Neighborhood I get:
"Unable to browse the network".

Because of the above I cannot map the Wanda computer to T66,
although I can map the other way.




However I can do a lot of other things.

OK to dir \\wanda\c from T66.
OK to dir \\t66\c from Wanda.

Ping works both ways.

I can surf the internet, get email etc.

I can Find T66 and set it up as a share from Wanda but not the other
way.

Although I'm fairly experienced at network issues I'm stumped by this
one. My other Windows 95 computer (another Toshiba but a Libretto)
and both Find Wanda and set up a share.

In Settings | Network I deleted the reference to the pcmcia card,
netbeui and tcp/ip for the card and rebooted to get fresh ones.

My hosts and lmhosts are identical and used by several other
computers.

Does anyone have an idea what I can try next?

Larry Alkoff

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My address is: larryalk is_at mindspring dot com

On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:51:50 -0500, Larry Alkoff <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I am trying to network a Windows 95 computer ( T66 - a Toshiba 660CDT)
>to a Windows 98SE computer (Wanda).
>
>I can Start | Find Computer and Wanda shows up
>but when I double click on the found computer I get the message:
>"\\wanda is not accessable. Not logged on."
>
>When I try to browse the entire network in Network Neighborhood I get:
>"Unable to browse the network".
>
>Because of the above I cannot map the Wanda computer to T66,
>although I can map the other way.
>
>
>
>
>However I can do a lot of other things.
>
>OK to dir \\wanda\c from T66.
>OK to dir \\t66\c from Wanda.
>
>Ping works both ways.
>
>I can surf the internet, get email etc.
>
>I can Find T66 and set it up as a share from Wanda but not the other
>way.
>
>Although I'm fairly experienced at network issues I'm stumped by this
>one. My other Windows 95 computer (another Toshiba but a Libretto)
>and both Find Wanda and set up a share.
>
>In Settings | Network I deleted the reference to the pcmcia card,
>netbeui and tcp/ip for the card and rebooted to get fresh ones.
>
>My hosts and lmhosts are identical and used by several other
>computers.
>
>Does anyone have an idea what I can try next?
>
>Larry Alkoff

Do you have Login enabled on the Win95 system? ie: do you have to provide a
user name and password to get past the Welcome screen on system that can't
access the share?

If not, that may be the source of your problem...

/daytripper

On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 03:57:19 GMT, daytripper
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:51:50 -0500, Larry Alkoff <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>I am trying to network a Windows 95 computer ( T66 - a Toshiba 660CDT)
>>to a Windows 98SE computer (Wanda).
>>
>>I can Start | Find Computer and Wanda shows up
>>but when I double click on the found computer I get the message:
>>"\\wanda is not accessable. Not logged on."
>>
>>When I try to browse the entire network in Network Neighborhood I get:
>>"Unable to browse the network".
>>
>>Because of the above I cannot map the Wanda computer to T66,
>>although I can map the other way.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>However I can do a lot of other things.
>>
>>OK to dir \\wanda\c from T66.
>>OK to dir \\t66\c from Wanda.
>>
>>Ping works both ways.
>>
>>I can surf the internet, get email etc.
>>
>>I can Find T66 and set it up as a share from Wanda but not the other
>>way.
>>
>>Although I'm fairly experienced at network issues I'm stumped by this
>>one. My other Windows 95 computer (another Toshiba but a Libretto)
>>and both Find Wanda and set up a share.
>>
>>In Settings | Network I deleted the reference to the pcmcia card,
>>netbeui and tcp/ip for the card and rebooted to get fresh ones.
>>
>>My hosts and lmhosts are identical and used by several other
>>computers.
>>
>>Does anyone have an idea what I can try next?
>>
>>Larry Alkoff
>
>Do you have Login enabled on the Win95 system? ie: do you have to provide a
>user name and password to get past the Welcome screen on system that can't
>access the share?
>
>If not, that may be the source of your problem...
>
>/daytripper


Hello daytripper.

I do not get a screen that asks for user name and password.

In Settings | Network my Primary Network Logon is Windows Logon.
The only other possible setting is Client for Microsoft Networks.

So I changed Primary Network Logon to Client for Microsoft Networks
with no discernable change.

What else should I do?

Larry

--
Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX
My address is: larryalk is_at mindspring dot com

On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 23:41:03 -0500, Larry Alkoff <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 03:57:19 GMT, daytripper
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:51:50 -0500, Larry Alkoff <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I am trying to network a Windows 95 computer ( T66 - a Toshiba 660CDT)
>>>to a Windows 98SE computer (Wanda).
>>>
>>>I can Start | Find Computer and Wanda shows up
>>>but when I double click on the found computer I get the message:
>>>"\\wanda is not accessable. Not logged on."
>>>
>>>When I try to browse the entire network in Network Neighborhood I get:
>>>"Unable to browse the network".
>>>
>>>Because of the above I cannot map the Wanda computer to T66,
>>>although I can map the other way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>However I can do a lot of other things.
>>>
>>>OK to dir \\wanda\c from T66.
>>>OK to dir \\t66\c from Wanda.
>>>
>>>Ping works both ways.
>>>
>>>I can surf the internet, get email etc.
>>>
>>>I can Find T66 and set it up as a share from Wanda but not the other
>>>way.
>>>
>>>Although I'm fairly experienced at network issues I'm stumped by this
>>>one. My other Windows 95 computer (another Toshiba but a Libretto)
>>>and both Find Wanda and set up a share.
>>>
>>>In Settings | Network I deleted the reference to the pcmcia card,
>>>netbeui and tcp/ip for the card and rebooted to get fresh ones.
>>>
>>>My hosts and lmhosts are identical and used by several other
>>>computers.
>>>
>>>Does anyone have an idea what I can try next?
>>>
>>>Larry Alkoff
>>
>>Do you have Login enabled on the Win95 system? ie: do you have to provide a
>>user name and password to get past the Welcome screen on system that can't
>>access the share?
>>
>>If not, that may be the source of your problem...
>>
>>/daytripper
>
>
>Hello daytripper.
>
>I do not get a screen that asks for user name and password.
>
>In Settings | Network my Primary Network Logon is Windows Logon.
>The only other possible setting is Client for Microsoft Networks.
>
>So I changed Primary Network Logon to Client for Microsoft Networks
>with no discernable change.
>
>What else should I do?
>
>Larry

It's been years since I last used Win95, but somewhere in Control Panel I
believe you can enable Logins so you'll be required to provide a user name and
password before getting to the Windows desktop...

On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 16:23:54 GMT, daytripper
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 23:41:03 -0500, Larry Alkoff <(E-Mail Removed)>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 03:57:19 GMT, daytripper
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 22:51:50 -0500, Larry Alkoff <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am trying to network a Windows 95 computer ( T66 - a Toshiba 660CDT)
>>>>to a Windows 98SE computer (Wanda).
>>>>
>>>>I can Start | Find Computer and Wanda shows up
>>>>but when I double click on the found computer I get the message:
>>>>"\\wanda is not accessable. Not logged on."
>>>>
>>>>When I try to browse the entire network in Network Neighborhood I get:
>>>>"Unable to browse the network".
>>>>
>>>>Because of the above I cannot map the Wanda computer to T66,
>>>>although I can map the other way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>However I can do a lot of other things.
>>>>
>>>>OK to dir \\wanda\c from T66.
>>>>OK to dir \\t66\c from Wanda.
>>>>
>>>>Ping works both ways.
>>>>
>>>>I can surf the internet, get email etc.
>>>>
>>>>I can Find T66 and set it up as a share from Wanda but not the other
>>>>way.
>>>>
>>>>Although I'm fairly experienced at network issues I'm stumped by this
>>>>one. My other Windows 95 computer (another Toshiba but a Libretto)
>>>>and both Find Wanda and set up a share.
>>>>
>>>>In Settings | Network I deleted the reference to the pcmcia card,
>>>>netbeui and tcp/ip for the card and rebooted to get fresh ones.
>>>>
>>>>My hosts and lmhosts are identical and used by several other
>>>>computers.
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone have an idea what I can try next?
>>>>
>>>>Larry Alkoff
>>>
>>>Do you have Login enabled on the Win95 system? ie: do you have to provide a
>>>user name and password to get past the Welcome screen on system that can't
>>>access the share?
>>>
>>>If not, that may be the source of your problem...
>>>
>>>/daytripper
>>
>>
>>Hello daytripper.
>>
>>I do not get a screen that asks for user name and password.
>>
>>In Settings | Network my Primary Network Logon is Windows Logon.
>>The only other possible setting is Client for Microsoft Networks.
>>
>>So I changed Primary Network Logon to Client for Microsoft Networks
>>with no discernable change.
>>
>>What else should I do?
>>
>>Larry
>
>It's been years since I last used Win95, but somewhere in Control Panel I
>believe you can enable Logins so you'll be required to provide a user name and
>password before getting to the Windows desktop...

I finally solved it thanks to your suggestion that I look into why no
logon screen was appearing. After a google search I finally stumbled
across the idea of "logging off" then on again.

Lo and behold on the Windows 95 Start menu there is an item
"Close all programs and log on as a different user".

Tried that and the logon menu appeared. It was set to my dial-up name
which would probably explain why I couldn't browse my own network.
Changed the name, didn't bother to set a password because it's just me
and wife, did not have to reboot (for a change).

Lo and behold the other machines showed up in NN and I could easily
map a Found share.

All is well - thank you very much for your help.

Later I'll probably change "Client for Microsoft Networks" to "Windows
Logon" to eliminate the log-on screen - I think the network will still
be ok.

Larry



--
Larry Alkoff N2LA - Austin TX
My address is: larryalk is_at mindspring dot com