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Old 02-19-2004, 04:08 PM
Default MN-700



When is MS going to have a software update available for
this unit that will add WPA security options.

You seem to be behind in releasing updates. Linksys,
Atheros, D-Link abd Netgear all have WPA security updates
available for their existing hardware.


Tom @ Hewlett Packard
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Old 02-19-2004, 04:14 PM
Chris H.
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What type of update and options are you looking for, Tom?
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"Tom @ Hewlett Packard" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:132d001c3f702$9dcb0870$(E-Mail Removed)...
> When is MS going to have a software update available for
> this unit that will add WPA security options.
>
> You seem to be behind in releasing updates. Linksys,
> Atheros, D-Link abd Netgear all have WPA security updates
> available for their existing hardware.



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Old 02-19-2004, 04:17 PM
Barb Bowman \(MVP-Windows\)
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What exactly are you looking for? The MN-700 supports WPA-PSK out of the
box.

Tom @ Hewlett Packard wrote:
> When is MS going to have a software update available for
> this unit that will add WPA security options.
>
> You seem to be behind in releasing updates. Linksys,
> Atheros, D-Link abd Netgear all have WPA security updates
> available for their existing hardware.



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Old 02-20-2004, 12:05 PM
Robert Cohen
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Barb,
Please look again... The base station supports 256-bit
WPA-PSK BUT MN720 card does not support it in firmware.
Tom may have misstated the issue, but there it is. I
just recently ran into just that problem -- after setting
the base station to 256 bit I discovered that Microsoft's
own card doesn't implement WPA in firmware and I just
bought the darn thing.

Robert
>-----Original Message-----
>What exactly are you looking for? The MN-700 supports

WPA-PSK out of the
>box.
>
>Tom @ Hewlett Packard wrote:
>> When is MS going to have a software update available

for
>> this unit that will add WPA security options.
>>
>> You seem to be behind in releasing updates. Linksys,
>> Atheros, D-Link abd Netgear all have WPA security

updates
>> available for their existing hardware.

>
>
>--
> Barb Bowman
> Expert Zone Columnist
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> MS-MVP (Windows)
>
>
>.
>

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Old 02-20-2004, 01:05 PM
Barb Bowman \(MVP-Windows\)
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WPA-PSK is supported if you have Windows XP and have applied the updates for
WPA-PSK *AND* if you use Windows XP's native Wireless Zero Configuration to
configure the wireless properties and DO NOT USE THE WIZARD UTILITY.

For other operating systems, you may have some luck with third party WPA
Supplicants.

Robert Cohen wrote:
> Barb,
> Please look again... The base station supports 256-bit
> WPA-PSK BUT MN720 card does not support it in firmware.
> Tom may have misstated the issue, but there it is. I
> just recently ran into just that problem -- after setting
> the base station to 256 bit I discovered that Microsoft's
> own card doesn't implement WPA in firmware and I just
> bought the darn thing.
>
> Robert
>> -----Original Message-----
>> What exactly are you looking for? The MN-700 supports WPA-PSK out of
>> the box.
>>
>> Tom @ Hewlett Packard wrote:
>>> When is MS going to have a software update available

> for
>>> this unit that will add WPA security options.
>>>
>>> You seem to be behind in releasing updates. Linksys,
>>> Atheros, D-Link abd Netgear all have WPA security

> updates
>>> available for their existing hardware.

>>
>>
>> --
>> Barb Bowman
>> Expert Zone Columnist
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>
>>
>> .



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Old 02-21-2004, 07:31 PM
Sean
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I have been able to set up WPA security using the MN-700
and PCs with Windows XP and the WPA update. There seems,
however, to be a problem with my set-up. If I reboot my
computer, I can't reconnect to the MN-700 and the
Microsoft Broadband Network Utility states that the
security key is invalid (even though it worked fine
before the reboot). Retyping the pass-phrase doesn't
solve the problem, but rebooting the MN-700 does. Any
idea how I can fix this?

Thanks,
Sean

>-----Original Message-----
>WPA-PSK is supported if you have Windows XP and have

applied the updates for
>WPA-PSK *AND* if you use Windows XP's native Wireless

Zero Configuration to
>configure the wireless properties and DO NOT USE THE

WIZARD UTILITY.
>
>For other operating systems, you may have some luck with

third party WPA
>Supplicants.
>
>Robert Cohen wrote:
>> Barb,
>> Please look again... The base station supports 256-bit
>> WPA-PSK BUT MN720 card does not support it in firmware.
>> Tom may have misstated the issue, but there it is. I
>> just recently ran into just that problem -- after

setting
>> the base station to 256 bit I discovered that

Microsoft's
>> own card doesn't implement WPA in firmware and I just
>> bought the darn thing.
>>
>> Robert
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> What exactly are you looking for? The MN-700 supports

WPA-PSK out of
>>> the box.
>>>
>>> Tom @ Hewlett Packard wrote:
>>>> When is MS going to have a software update available

>> for
>>>> this unit that will add WPA security options.
>>>>
>>>> You seem to be behind in releasing updates. Linksys,
>>>> Atheros, D-Link abd Netgear all have WPA security

>> updates
>>>> available for their existing hardware.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barb Bowman
>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>>
>>>
>>> .

>
>
>--
> Barb Bowman
> Expert Zone Columnist
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> MS-MVP (Windows)
>
>
>.
>

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Old 02-21-2004, 10:53 PM
Jaime Halscott
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I am having the same issues as everyone here. I have a MN-700 base
station with a MN-720 in my laptop and an MN-730 in my second desktop.
The initial connections to the base station using 256bit WPA-PSK
worked great with the laptop for about a week. Then just yesterday I
added a card to my second desktop and the "Incorrect Security Key"
message would show up after I either logged off or rebooted either of
the machines. The other machine would still be able to connect and
work just fine, but once it was logged of or rebooted the same issue
would occur. The only remedy was to reboot the MN-700 which would then
immediately allow either the MN-720 or the MN-730 to connect to it. In
my network it seems to be fine as long as you only have one wireless
client connected to the base station. I guess the 253 client claim is
a little exaggerated.

The same issue occurs when using WEP in either 64 or 128 bit modes. I
know this because I talked to Microsoft tech support and they saw
this. BTW the MS tech support in India sucks!!! I do have an SRX# from
them and it is being escalated supposedly. A higher tech guy will be
with me in 2 business days. That is complete BS.

I returned the MN-700 to BestBuy and they gave me the exact same one,
since it cannot be returned, as I sent in the Microsoft Wireless World
Promotion mail-in rebate. I thought it may be the MN-700 being
defective, but my "new" one behaves exactly the same. Base station is
running 2.00.08.0333 firmware and boot code. The latest I have been
told by MS.

I don't know how this thing got WI-FI certified.

Open message to Microsoft... FIX THIS ISSUE NOW OR GIVE US ALL REFUNDS
AND STOP SELLING IT UNTIL YOU CORRECT THIS.

An unsecured AP is not acceptable.

Jaime

"Sean" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<13c5501c3f8b1$4f9c5090$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> I have been able to set up WPA security using the MN-700
> and PCs with Windows XP and the WPA update. There seems,
> however, to be a problem with my set-up. If I reboot my
> computer, I can't reconnect to the MN-700 and the
> Microsoft Broadband Network Utility states that the
> security key is invalid (even though it worked fine
> before the reboot). Retyping the pass-phrase doesn't
> solve the problem, but rebooting the MN-700 does. Any
> idea how I can fix this?
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >WPA-PSK is supported if you have Windows XP and have

> applied the updates for
> >WPA-PSK *AND* if you use Windows XP's native Wireless

> Zero Configuration to
> >configure the wireless properties and DO NOT USE THE

> WIZARD UTILITY.
> >
> >For other operating systems, you may have some luck with

> third party WPA
> >Supplicants.
> >
> >Robert Cohen wrote:
> >> Barb,
> >> Please look again... The base station supports 256-bit
> >> WPA-PSK BUT MN720 card does not support it in firmware.
> >> Tom may have misstated the issue, but there it is. I
> >> just recently ran into just that problem -- after

> setting
> >> the base station to 256 bit I discovered that

> Microsoft's
> >> own card doesn't implement WPA in firmware and I just
> >> bought the darn thing.
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> What exactly are you looking for? The MN-700 supports

> WPA-PSK out of
> >>> the box.
> >>>
> >>> Tom @ Hewlett Packard wrote:
> >>>> When is MS going to have a software update available

> for
> >>>> this unit that will add WPA security options.
> >>>>
> >>>> You seem to be behind in releasing updates. Linksys,
> >>>> Atheros, D-Link abd Netgear all have WPA security

> updates
> >>>> available for their existing hardware.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Barb Bowman
> >>> Expert Zone Columnist
> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>> MS-MVP (Windows)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> .

> >
> >
> >--
> > Barb Bowman
> > Expert Zone Columnist
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > MS-MVP (Windows)
> >
> >
> >.
> >

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Old 02-22-2004, 11:11 AM
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Barb
That's interesting. It took me awhile to sort it out but it does work. The interface is a littly wonky and would best be more 'automagic' so the average (even geeky) user doesn't have to do anything but say STRONGER and paste in a passphrase. It will evolve..

Thanks for your help

Robert
----- Barb Bowman (MVP-Windows) wrote: ----

WPA-PSK is supported if you have Windows XP and have applied the updates fo
WPA-PSK *AND* if you use Windows XP's native Wireless Zero Configuration t
configure the wireless properties and DO NOT USE THE WIZARD UTILITY

For other operating systems, you may have some luck with third party WP
Supplicants

Robert Cohen wrote
> Barb
> Please look again... The base station supports 256-bi
> WPA-PSK BUT MN720 card does not support it in firmware
> Tom may have misstated the issue, but there it is.
> just recently ran into just that problem -- after settin
> the base station to 256 bit I discovered that Microsoft'
> own card doesn't implement WPA in firmware and I jus
> bought the darn thing
>> Rober
>> -----Original Message----
>> What exactly are you looking for? The MN-700 supports WPA-PSK out o
>> the box
>>>> Tom @ Hewlett Packard wrote
>>> When is MS going to have a software update availabl

> fo
>>> this unit that will add WPA security options
>>>>>> You seem to be behind in releasing updates. Linksys
>>> Atheros, D-Link abd Netgear all have WPA securit

> update
>>> available for their existing hardware
>>>>>> -

>> Barb Bowma
>> Expert Zone Columnis
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzon
>> MS-MVP (Windows
>>>>>>



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Old 02-22-2004, 09:20 PM
Dee Dubya
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Jaime,

They are giving refunds. Simply call as the tech guy in
india for the 1-800 number to get your refund. Mine is on
it's way.

Dee Dubya

>-----Original Message-----
>I am having the same issues as everyone here. I have a

MN-700 base
>station with a MN-720 in my laptop and an MN-730 in my

second desktop.
>The initial connections to the base station using 256bit

WPA-PSK
>worked great with the laptop for about a week. Then just

yesterday I
>added a card to my second desktop and the "Incorrect

Security Key"
>message would show up after I either logged off or

rebooted either of
>the machines. The other machine would still be able to

connect and
>work just fine, but once it was logged of or rebooted

the same issue
>would occur. The only remedy was to reboot the MN-700

which would then
>immediately allow either the MN-720 or the MN-730 to

connect to it. In
>my network it seems to be fine as long as you only have

one wireless
>client connected to the base station. I guess the 253

client claim is
>a little exaggerated.
>
>The same issue occurs when using WEP in either 64 or 128

bit modes. I
>know this because I talked to Microsoft tech support and

they saw
>this. BTW the MS tech support in India sucks!!! I do

have an SRX# from
>them and it is being escalated supposedly. A higher tech

guy will be
>with me in 2 business days. That is complete BS.
>
>I returned the MN-700 to BestBuy and they gave me the

exact same one,
>since it cannot be returned, as I sent in the Microsoft

Wireless World
>Promotion mail-in rebate. I thought it may be the MN-700

being
>defective, but my "new" one behaves exactly the same.

Base station is
>running 2.00.08.0333 firmware and boot code. The latest

I have been
>told by MS.
>
>I don't know how this thing got WI-FI certified.
>
>Open message to Microsoft... FIX THIS ISSUE NOW OR GIVE

US ALL REFUNDS
>AND STOP SELLING IT UNTIL YOU CORRECT THIS.
>
>An unsecured AP is not acceptable.
>
>Jaime
>
>"Sean" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

message news:<13c5501c3f8b1$4f9c5090$(E-Mail Removed)>...
>> I have been able to set up WPA security using the MN-

700
>> and PCs with Windows XP and the WPA update. There

seems,
>> however, to be a problem with my set-up. If I reboot

my
>> computer, I can't reconnect to the MN-700 and the
>> Microsoft Broadband Network Utility states that the
>> security key is invalid (even though it worked fine
>> before the reboot). Retyping the pass-phrase doesn't
>> solve the problem, but rebooting the MN-700 does. Any
>> idea how I can fix this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sean
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >WPA-PSK is supported if you have Windows XP and have

>> applied the updates for
>> >WPA-PSK *AND* if you use Windows XP's native Wireless

>> Zero Configuration to
>> >configure the wireless properties and DO NOT USE THE

>> WIZARD UTILITY.
>> >
>> >For other operating systems, you may have some luck

with
>> third party WPA
>> >Supplicants.
>> >
>> >Robert Cohen wrote:
>> >> Barb,
>> >> Please look again... The base station supports 256-

bit
>> >> WPA-PSK BUT MN720 card does not support it in

firmware.
>> >> Tom may have misstated the issue, but there it is.

I
>> >> just recently ran into just that problem -- after

>> setting
>> >> the base station to 256 bit I discovered that

>> Microsoft's
>> >> own card doesn't implement WPA in firmware and I

just
>> >> bought the darn thing.
>> >>
>> >> Robert
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> What exactly are you looking for? The MN-700

supports
>> WPA-PSK out of
>> >>> the box.
>> >>>
>> >>> Tom @ Hewlett Packard wrote:
>> >>>> When is MS going to have a software update

available
>> for
>> >>>> this unit that will add WPA security options.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You seem to be behind in releasing updates.

Linksys,
>> >>>> Atheros, D-Link abd Netgear all have WPA security

>> updates
>> >>>> available for their existing hardware.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Barb Bowman
>> >>> Expert Zone Columnist
>> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> .
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> > Barb Bowman
>> > Expert Zone Columnist
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> > MS-MVP (Windows)
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>.
>

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Old 02-23-2004, 03:27 PM
Jaime Halscott
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Thanks Dee,

Could you post the proper 1-800 number here. I have been shuffled
around Indian support for over an hour now and no one seems to have
any idea what you are talking about. Wipro support is the absolute
worst I have ever used. I will never buy MS gear again because of
this. They never called me back as promised at the scheduled time
either. Looking at people having this issue as far back as October
2003 it seems they are not going to solve it any time soon. I would
really appreciate the number if you could. I am sure lots of others
would too.

Thanks,
Jaime

"Dee Dubya" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<13f3301c3f989$aa3a0230$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> Jaime,
>
> They are giving refunds. Simply call as the tech guy in
> india for the 1-800 number to get your refund. Mine is on
> it's way.
>
> Dee Dubya
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I am having the same issues as everyone here. I have a

> MN-700 base
> >station with a MN-720 in my laptop and an MN-730 in my

> second desktop.
> >The initial connections to the base station using 256bit

> WPA-PSK
> >worked great with the laptop for about a week. Then just

> yesterday I
> >added a card to my second desktop and the "Incorrect

> Security Key"
> >message would show up after I either logged off or

> rebooted either of
> >the machines. The other machine would still be able to

> connect and
> >work just fine, but once it was logged of or rebooted

> the same issue
> >would occur. The only remedy was to reboot the MN-700

> which would then
> >immediately allow either the MN-720 or the MN-730 to

> connect to it. In
> >my network it seems to be fine as long as you only have

> one wireless
> >client connected to the base station. I guess the 253

> client claim is
> >a little exaggerated.
> >
> >The same issue occurs when using WEP in either 64 or 128

> bit modes. I
> >know this because I talked to Microsoft tech support and

> they saw
> >this. BTW the MS tech support in India sucks!!! I do

> have an SRX# from
> >them and it is being escalated supposedly. A higher tech

> guy will be
> >with me in 2 business days. That is complete BS.
> >
> >I returned the MN-700 to BestBuy and they gave me the

> exact same one,
> >since it cannot be returned, as I sent in the Microsoft

> Wireless World
> >Promotion mail-in rebate. I thought it may be the MN-700

> being
> >defective, but my "new" one behaves exactly the same.

> Base station is
> >running 2.00.08.0333 firmware and boot code. The latest

> I have been
> >told by MS.
> >
> >I don't know how this thing got WI-FI certified.
> >
> >Open message to Microsoft... FIX THIS ISSUE NOW OR GIVE

> US ALL REFUNDS
> >AND STOP SELLING IT UNTIL YOU CORRECT THIS.
> >
> >An unsecured AP is not acceptable.
> >
> >Jaime
> >
> >"Sean" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in

> message news:<13c5501c3f8b1$4f9c5090$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> >> I have been able to set up WPA security using the MN-

> 700
> >> and PCs with Windows XP and the WPA update. There

> seems,
> >> however, to be a problem with my set-up. If I reboot

> my
> >> computer, I can't reconnect to the MN-700 and the
> >> Microsoft Broadband Network Utility states that the
> >> security key is invalid (even though it worked fine
> >> before the reboot). Retyping the pass-phrase doesn't
> >> solve the problem, but rebooting the MN-700 does. Any
> >> idea how I can fix this?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Sean
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >WPA-PSK is supported if you have Windows XP and have

> applied the updates for
> >> >WPA-PSK *AND* if you use Windows XP's native Wireless

> Zero Configuration to
> >> >configure the wireless properties and DO NOT USE THE

> WIZARD UTILITY.
> >> >
> >> >For other operating systems, you may have some luck

> with
> third party WPA
> >> >Supplicants.
> >> >
> >> >Robert Cohen wrote:
> >> >> Barb,
> >> >> Please look again... The base station supports 256-

> bit
> >> >> WPA-PSK BUT MN720 card does not support it in

> firmware.
> >> >> Tom may have misstated the issue, but there it is.

> I
> >> >> just recently ran into just that problem -- after

> setting
> >> >> the base station to 256 bit I discovered that

> Microsoft's
> >> >> own card doesn't implement WPA in firmware and I

> just
> >> >> bought the darn thing.
> >> >>
> >> >> Robert
> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> What exactly are you looking for? The MN-700

> supports
> WPA-PSK out of
> >> >>> the box.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Tom @ Hewlett Packard wrote:
> >> >>>> When is MS going to have a software update

> available
> for
> >> >>>> this unit that will add WPA security options.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> You seem to be behind in releasing updates.

> Linksys,
> >> >>>> Atheros, D-Link abd Netgear all have WPA security

> updates
> >> >>>> available for their existing hardware.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Barb Bowman
> >> >>> Expert Zone Columnist
> >> >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >>> MS-MVP (Windows)
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> .
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> > Barb Bowman
> >> > Expert Zone Columnist
> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> > MS-MVP (Windows)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >

> >.
> >

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