MN700 & VPN Connection

Is anyone having trouble with an IPSEC VPN connection
through the MN700?


davep

Some people are, others are not. Please give Product Support a call on this
issue.

davep wrote:
> Is anyone having trouble with an IPSEC VPN connection
> through the MN700?


--
Barb Bowman
Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
MS-MVP (Windows)

We have set up a test environment using Windows 2003 Server's VPN Host
services and two different Windows XP VPN Clients (with all of the latest
updates - a Microsoft-only configuration). We even have the clients
hard-wired into the MN-700 to eliminate any variables due to wireless
configurations. We can connect and get authenticated through the MN-700 if
they are configured to use PPTP, but not if they are set up to use L2TP
(IPSec-based). When we change back to PPTP, all works again. We tried this
with three different MN-700s (all with the latest firmware). In talking
with Microsoft's tech support, we got a lot of conflicting information on
whether they actually support L2TP through the MN-700 (as in they did not
think so either). They even eluded to a specialized VPN client for XP that
is required to do L2TP properly, but then they said it is not available yet.
We then tried it with a Windows 2003 Server as the VPN Client (since that is
supposed to have an upgraded VPN interface) with the same results. Our
conclusion is that it does not work and that Microsoft's Tech Support does
not know how to configure it to make it work. Now what?

Regards,

=D-

Derek R. Flickinger
Interactive Homes, Inc.

"Barb Bowman (MVP-Windows)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Some people are, others are not. Please give Product Support a call on
> this
> issue.
>
> davep wrote:
>> Is anyone having trouble with an IPSEC VPN connection
>> through the MN700?
>
>
> --
> Barb Bowman
> Expert Zone Columnist
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> MS-MVP (Windows)
>
>

I've passed this along to the dev team. I've been passing many of the
posts here along to them where specific configurations are specified.
I don't know if I will get a response or not. I wish I had
solutions...

Page 66 of the User Guide states:

Standards :
IEEE 802.11b, 802.11g, Wi-Fi certified, TCP/IP, NAT, DHCP, UDP,
FTP, PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP, HTTP, DNS, IPSec/VPN Pass through, WPA

I can only say that if anyone's VPN setup does not work transparently
with the MN-700 that so far there is no information whether there will
be a fix or what the timing of such a fix might be. Under those
circumstances, I'd exchange the product if your normal VPN
configuration does not work.

On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:45:29 -0500, "Derek R. Flickinger"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>We have set up a test environment using Windows 2003 Server's VPN Host
>services and two different Windows XP VPN Clients (with all of the latest
>updates - a Microsoft-only configuration). We even have the clients
>hard-wired into the MN-700 to eliminate any variables due to wireless
>configurations. We can connect and get authenticated through the MN-700 if
>they are configured to use PPTP, but not if they are set up to use L2TP
>(IPSec-based). When we change back to PPTP, all works again. We tried this
>with three different MN-700s (all with the latest firmware). In talking
>with Microsoft's tech support, we got a lot of conflicting information on
>whether they actually support L2TP through the MN-700 (as in they did not
>think so either). They even eluded to a specialized VPN client for XP that
>is required to do L2TP properly, but then they said it is not available yet.
>We then tried it with a Windows 2003 Server as the VPN Client (since that is
>supposed to have an upgraded VPN interface) with the same results. Our
>conclusion is that it does not work and that Microsoft's Tech Support does
>not know how to configure it to make it work. Now what?
>
>Regards,
>
> =D-
>
>Derek R. Flickinger
>Interactive Homes, Inc.
>
>"Barb Bowman (MVP-Windows)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Some people are, others are not. Please give Product Support a call on
>> this
>> issue.
>>
>> davep wrote:
>>> Is anyone having trouble with an IPSEC VPN connection
>>> through the MN700?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Barb Bowman
>> Expert Zone Columnist
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>
>>
>

--
Barb Bowman
Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
MS-MVP (Windows)

Maybe they should supply a white paper on how to get their own VPN solution
working with it - and then give it to their tech support people <g>.

=D-

"Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I've passed this along to the dev team. I've been passing many of the
> posts here along to them where specific configurations are specified.
> I don't know if I will get a response or not. I wish I had
> solutions...
>
> Page 66 of the User Guide states:
>
> Standards :
> IEEE 802.11b, 802.11g, Wi-Fi certified, TCP/IP, NAT, DHCP, UDP,
> FTP, PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP, HTTP, DNS, IPSec/VPN Pass through, WPA
>
> I can only say that if anyone's VPN setup does not work transparently
> with the MN-700 that so far there is no information whether there will
> be a fix or what the timing of such a fix might be. Under those
> circumstances, I'd exchange the product if your normal VPN
> configuration does not work.
>
> On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:45:29 -0500, "Derek R. Flickinger"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>We have set up a test environment using Windows 2003 Server's VPN Host
>>services and two different Windows XP VPN Clients (with all of the latest
>>updates - a Microsoft-only configuration). We even have the clients
>>hard-wired into the MN-700 to eliminate any variables due to wireless
>>configurations. We can connect and get authenticated through the MN-700
>>if
>>they are configured to use PPTP, but not if they are set up to use L2TP
>>(IPSec-based). When we change back to PPTP, all works again. We tried
>>this
>>with three different MN-700s (all with the latest firmware). In talking
>>with Microsoft's tech support, we got a lot of conflicting information on
>>whether they actually support L2TP through the MN-700 (as in they did not
>>think so either). They even eluded to a specialized VPN client for XP
>>that
>>is required to do L2TP properly, but then they said it is not available
>>yet.
>>We then tried it with a Windows 2003 Server as the VPN Client (since that
>>is
>>supposed to have an upgraded VPN interface) with the same results. Our
>>conclusion is that it does not work and that Microsoft's Tech Support does
>>not know how to configure it to make it work. Now what?
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>> =D-
>>
>>Derek R. Flickinger
>>Interactive Homes, Inc.
>>
>>"Barb Bowman (MVP-Windows)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>news:%(E-Mail Removed).. .
>>> Some people are, others are not. Please give Product Support a call on
>>> this
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> davep wrote:
>>>> Is anyone having trouble with an IPSEC VPN connection
>>>> through the MN700?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barb Bowman
>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> --
> Barb Bowman
> Expert Zone Columnist
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> MS-MVP (Windows)

I'm hoping I get a response. I'll certainly post it if I do.

On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 16:17:17 -0500, "Derek R. Flickinger"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Maybe they should supply a white paper on how to get their own VPN solution
>working with it - and then give it to their tech support people <g>.
>
> =D-
>
>"Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> I've passed this along to the dev team. I've been passing many of the
>> posts here along to them where specific configurations are specified.
>> I don't know if I will get a response or not. I wish I had
>> solutions...
>>
>> Page 66 of the User Guide states:
>>
>> Standards :
>> IEEE 802.11b, 802.11g, Wi-Fi certified, TCP/IP, NAT, DHCP, UDP,
>> FTP, PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP, HTTP, DNS, IPSec/VPN Pass through, WPA
>>
>> I can only say that if anyone's VPN setup does not work transparently
>> with the MN-700 that so far there is no information whether there will
>> be a fix or what the timing of such a fix might be. Under those
>> circumstances, I'd exchange the product if your normal VPN
>> configuration does not work.
>>
>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:45:29 -0500, "Derek R. Flickinger"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>We have set up a test environment using Windows 2003 Server's VPN Host
>>>services and two different Windows XP VPN Clients (with all of the latest
>>>updates - a Microsoft-only configuration). We even have the clients
>>>hard-wired into the MN-700 to eliminate any variables due to wireless
>>>configurations. We can connect and get authenticated through the MN-700
>>>if
>>>they are configured to use PPTP, but not if they are set up to use L2TP
>>>(IPSec-based). When we change back to PPTP, all works again. We tried
>>>this
>>>with three different MN-700s (all with the latest firmware). In talking
>>>with Microsoft's tech support, we got a lot of conflicting information on
>>>whether they actually support L2TP through the MN-700 (as in they did not
>>>think so either). They even eluded to a specialized VPN client for XP
>>>that
>>>is required to do L2TP properly, but then they said it is not available
>>>yet.
>>>We then tried it with a Windows 2003 Server as the VPN Client (since that
>>>is
>>>supposed to have an upgraded VPN interface) with the same results. Our
>>>conclusion is that it does not work and that Microsoft's Tech Support does
>>>not know how to configure it to make it work. Now what?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>> =D-
>>>
>>>Derek R. Flickinger
>>>Interactive Homes, Inc.
>>>
>>>"Barb Bowman (MVP-Windows)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>>news:%(E-Mail Removed). ..
>>>> Some people are, others are not. Please give Product Support a call on
>>>> this
>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> davep wrote:
>>>>> Is anyone having trouble with an IPSEC VPN connection
>>>>> through the MN700?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Barb Bowman
>>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Barb Bowman
>> Expert Zone Columnist
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>

--
Barb Bowman
Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
MS-MVP (Windows)

*sigh* I bought the unit so that I could replace my aging
linksys, and I was all gung-ho to go for it. Then after
trying to connect to work using the Contivity VPN client
(ipsec as far as I'm aware, thats the only thing the
linksys has enabled) I get "host not found".. oh joy.

I certainly hope that they can fix the problem, because
until then, I'm only using the thing as an access point,
(with the linksys as the router) and i'm certainly not
getting the money out of it that I paid.




>-----Original Message-----
>I'm hoping I get a response. I'll certainly post it if I
do.
>
>On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 16:17:17 -0500, "Derek R. Flickinger"
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Maybe they should supply a white paper on how to get
their own VPN solution
>>working with it - and then give it to their tech
support people <g>.
>>
>> =D-
>>
>>"Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>>news:(E-Mail Removed). ..
>>> I've passed this along to the dev team. I've been
passing many of the
>>> posts here along to them where specific
configurations are specified.
>>> I don't know if I will get a response or not. I wish
I had
>>> solutions...
>>>
>>> Page 66 of the User Guide states:
>>>
>>> Standards :
>>> IEEE 802.11b, 802.11g, Wi-Fi certified, TCP/IP, NAT,
DHCP, UDP,
>>> FTP, PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP, HTTP, DNS, IPSec/VPN Pass
through, WPA
>>>
>>> I can only say that if anyone's VPN setup does not
work transparently
>>> with the MN-700 that so far there is no information
whether there will
>>> be a fix or what the timing of such a fix might be.
Under those
>>> circumstances, I'd exchange the product if your
normal VPN
>>> configuration does not work.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:45:29 -0500, "Derek R.
Flickinger"
>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>
>>>>We have set up a test environment using Windows 2003
Server's VPN Host
>>>>services and two different Windows XP VPN Clients
(with all of the latest
>>>>updates - a Microsoft-only configuration). We even
have the clients
>>>>hard-wired into the MN-700 to eliminate any variables
due to wireless
>>>>configurations. We can connect and get authenticated
through the MN-700
>>>>if
>>>>they are configured to use PPTP, but not if they are
set up to use L2TP
>>>>(IPSec-based). When we change back to PPTP, all
works again. We tried
>>>>this
>>>>with three different MN-700s (all with the latest
firmware). In talking
>>>>with Microsoft's tech support, we got a lot of
conflicting information on
>>>>whether they actually support L2TP through the MN-700
(as in they did not
>>>>think so either). They even eluded to a specialized
VPN client for XP
>>>>that
>>>>is required to do L2TP properly, but then they said
it is not available
>>>>yet.
>>>>We then tried it with a Windows 2003 Server as the
VPN Client (since that
>>>>is
>>>>supposed to have an upgraded VPN interface) with the
same results. Our
>>>>conclusion is that it does not work and that
Microsoft's Tech Support does
>>>>not know how to configure it to make it work. Now
what?
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>
>>>> =D-
>>>>
>>>>Derek R. Flickinger
>>>>Interactive Homes, Inc.
>>>>
>>>>"Barb Bowman (MVP-Windows)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in message
>>>>news:%(E-Mail Removed).. .
>>>>> Some people are, others are not. Please give
Product Support a call on
>>>>> this
>>>>> issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> davep wrote:
>>>>>> Is anyone having trouble with an IPSEC VPN
connection
>>>>>> through the MN700?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Barb Bowman
>>>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barb Bowman
>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>
>
>--
>Barb Bowman
>Expert Zone Columnist
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>MS-MVP (Windows)
>.
>

Please call product support and open a support incident.

On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 15:38:11 -0800, "Joshua Newman"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>*sigh* I bought the unit so that I could replace my aging
>linksys, and I was all gung-ho to go for it. Then after
>trying to connect to work using the Contivity VPN client
>(ipsec as far as I'm aware, thats the only thing the
>linksys has enabled) I get "host not found".. oh joy.
>
>I certainly hope that they can fix the problem, because
>until then, I'm only using the thing as an access point,
>(with the linksys as the router) and i'm certainly not
>getting the money out of it that I paid.
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I'm hoping I get a response. I'll certainly post it if I
>do.
>>
>>On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 16:17:17 -0500, "Derek R. Flickinger"
>><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>Maybe they should supply a white paper on how to get
>their own VPN solution
>>>working with it - and then give it to their tech
>support people <g>.
>>>
>>> =D-
>>>
>>>"Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>message
>>>news:(E-Mail Removed) ...
>>>> I've passed this along to the dev team. I've been
>passing many of the
>>>> posts here along to them where specific
>configurations are specified.
>>>> I don't know if I will get a response or not. I wish
>I had
>>>> solutions...
>>>>
>>>> Page 66 of the User Guide states:
>>>>
>>>> Standards :
>>>> IEEE 802.11b, 802.11g, Wi-Fi certified, TCP/IP, NAT,
>DHCP, UDP,
>>>> FTP, PPPoE, PPTP, L2TP, HTTP, DNS, IPSec/VPN Pass
>through, WPA
>>>>
>>>> I can only say that if anyone's VPN setup does not
>work transparently
>>>> with the MN-700 that so far there is no information
>whether there will
>>>> be a fix or what the timing of such a fix might be.
>Under those
>>>> circumstances, I'd exchange the product if your
>normal VPN
>>>> configuration does not work.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:45:29 -0500, "Derek R.
>Flickinger"
>>>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>We have set up a test environment using Windows 2003
>Server's VPN Host
>>>>>services and two different Windows XP VPN Clients
>(with all of the latest
>>>>>updates - a Microsoft-only configuration). We even
>have the clients
>>>>>hard-wired into the MN-700 to eliminate any variables
>due to wireless
>>>>>configurations. We can connect and get authenticated
>through the MN-700
>>>>>if
>>>>>they are configured to use PPTP, but not if they are
>set up to use L2TP
>>>>>(IPSec-based). When we change back to PPTP, all
>works again. We tried
>>>>>this
>>>>>with three different MN-700s (all with the latest
>firmware). In talking
>>>>>with Microsoft's tech support, we got a lot of
>conflicting information on
>>>>>whether they actually support L2TP through the MN-700
>(as in they did not
>>>>>think so either). They even eluded to a specialized
>VPN client for XP
>>>>>that
>>>>>is required to do L2TP properly, but then they said
>it is not available
>>>>>yet.
>>>>>We then tried it with a Windows 2003 Server as the
>VPN Client (since that
>>>>>is
>>>>>supposed to have an upgraded VPN interface) with the
>same results. Our
>>>>>conclusion is that it does not work and that
>Microsoft's Tech Support does
>>>>>not know how to configure it to make it work. Now
>what?
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> =D-
>>>>>
>>>>>Derek R. Flickinger
>>>>>Interactive Homes, Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Barb Bowman (MVP-Windows)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>in message
>>>>>news:%(E-Mail Removed). ..
>>>>>> Some people are, others are not. Please give
>Product Support a call on
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> davep wrote:
>>>>>>> Is anyone having trouble with an IPSEC VPN
>connection
>>>>>>> through the MN700?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Barb Bowman
>>>>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Barb Bowman
>>>> Expert Zone Columnist
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Barb Bowman
>>Expert Zone Columnist
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>MS-MVP (Windows)
>>.
>>

--
Barb Bowman
Expert Zone Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
MS-MVP (Windows)

I've used the Sonicwall VPN client for an IPSec connection to an external
Sonicwall box through the MN-700. It works well when the client is wired to
the MN-700, with good performance. With a wireless client, throughput is
ridiculously low (a few KB/sec) but it does connect.
Paul Shapiro

"Derek R. Flickinger" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> We have set up a test environment using Windows 2003 Server's VPN Host
> services and two different Windows XP VPN Clients (with all of the latest
> updates - a Microsoft-only configuration). We even have the clients
> hard-wired into the MN-700 to eliminate any variables due to wireless
> configurations. We can connect and get authenticated through the MN-700
if
> they are configured to use PPTP, but not if they are set up to use L2TP
> (IPSec-based). When we change back to PPTP, all works again. We tried
this
> with three different MN-700s (all with the latest firmware). In talking
> with Microsoft's tech support, we got a lot of conflicting information on
> whether they actually support L2TP through the MN-700 (as in they did not
> think so either). They even eluded to a specialized VPN client for XP
that
> is required to do L2TP properly, but then they said it is not available
yet.
> We then tried it with a Windows 2003 Server as the VPN Client (since that
is
> supposed to have an upgraded VPN interface) with the same results. Our
> conclusion is that it does not work and that Microsoft's Tech Support does
> not know how to configure it to make it work. Now what?

I'm probably going to find the same to be true for a
problem I'm encountering. Company office has a Sonicwall
firewall; I tunnel in via Sonicwall/Safenet VPN clinet
from behind my broadband router; if the BBrouter is a
Linksys (wired or wireless) with the latest firmware I
can connect with no problems. If I replace the Linksys
with the MN-500 then I can no longer tunnel in. I
suspect the MN-500 does not support NAT-traversal or NAT
transparency, but I can't get Microsquish to say so.
Anybody had a similar experience or any words of wisdom?
>-----Original Message-----
>We have set up a test environment using Windows 2003
Server's VPN Host
>services and two different Windows XP VPN Clients (with
all of the latest
>updates - a Microsoft-only configuration). We even have
the clients
>hard-wired into the MN-700 to eliminate any variables
due to wireless
>configurations. We can connect and get authenticated
through the MN-700 if
>they are configured to use PPTP, but not if they are set
up to use L2TP
>(IPSec-based). When we change back to PPTP, all works
again. We tried this
>with three different MN-700s (all with the latest
firmware). In talking
>with Microsoft's tech support, we got a lot of
conflicting information on
>whether they actually support L2TP through the MN-700
(as in they did not
>think so either). They even eluded to a specialized VPN
client for XP that
>is required to do L2TP properly, but then they said it
is not available yet.
>We then tried it with a Windows 2003 Server as the VPN
Client (since that is
>supposed to have an upgraded VPN interface) with the
same results. Our
>conclusion is that it does not work and that Microsoft's
Tech Support does
>not know how to configure it to make it work. Now what?
>
>Regards,
>
> =D-
>
>Derek R. Flickinger
>Interactive Homes, Inc.
>
>"Barb Bowman (MVP-Windows)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Some people are, others are not. Please give Product
Support a call on
>> this
>> issue.
>>
>> davep wrote:
>>> Is anyone having trouble with an IPSEC VPN connection
>>> through the MN700?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Barb Bowman
>> Expert Zone Columnist
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> MS-MVP (Windows)
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>