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Old 03-08-2006, 01:50 PM
Default Are network cards much of a muchness ?



Since my old, previously redundant, 3Com 3C905B-TX is no longer
responding it looks as if I need a new network card for my upgrade to
ADSL. Are they all much of a muchness or are some better value for
money than others ? Any recs ?

I already have a Voyager 205, but even when the 3Com card was
responding I couldn't view 192.168.1.0/1 which I believe is the
routers home page. I don't have an ADSL line as yet, but in any case
should I have been able to view the admin page ?

Thanks

John


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Old 03-08-2006, 03:38 PM
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John wrote:
> Since my old, previously redundant, 3Com 3C905B-TX is no longer
> responding it looks as if I need a new network card for my upgrade to
> ADSL. Are they all much of a muchness or are some better value for
> money than others ? Any recs ?
>
> I already have a Voyager 205, but even when the 3Com card was
> responding I couldn't view 192.168.1.0/1 which I believe is the
> routers home page. I don't have an ADSL line as yet, but in any case
> should I have been able to view the admin page ?


Yes you should be able to view the router login without a connection.
Are you actually putting in 192.168.1.0/1? There should not be a slash and
the end number is likely to be one of those, not 0 and 1. Also make sure
within a browser you use http:// before the number.


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Old 03-08-2006, 04:18 PM
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"John" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Since my old, previously redundant, 3Com 3C905B-TX is no longer
> responding it looks as if I need a new network card for my upgrade to
> ADSL. Are they all much of a muchness or are some better value for
> money than others ? Any recs ?
>
> I already have a Voyager 205, but even when the 3Com card was
> responding I couldn't view 192.168.1.0/1 which I believe is the
> routers home page. I don't have an ADSL line as yet, but in any case
> should I have been able to view the admin page ?


just get any old network card, try and get realtek 8193 based chipset
most cheapy nic's will have it

you can view admin page even without adsl plugged in

also as far as i know the 205 is basicly the same as solwise sar 110/130
but more dumbed down


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Old 03-08-2006, 04:48 PM
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Beck wrote on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:38:34 -0000:

> John wrote:
>> Since my old, previously redundant, 3Com 3C905B-TX is no longer
>> responding it looks as if I need a new network card for my upgrade to
>> ADSL. Are they all much of a muchness or are some better value for
>> money than others ? Any recs ?
>>
>> I already have a Voyager 205, but even when the 3Com card was
>> responding I couldn't view 192.168.1.0/1 which I believe is the
>> routers home page. I don't have an ADSL line as yet, but in any case
>> should I have been able to view the admin page ?

>
> Yes you should be able to view the router login without a connection.
> Are you actually putting in 192.168.1.0/1? There should not be a slash
> and the end number is likely to be one of those, not 0 and 1. Also make
> sure within a browser you use http:// before the number.


It also won't be a 0 at the end - that's the subnet broadcast address.

Dan


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Old 03-08-2006, 05:11 PM
John
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"Spack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Beck wrote on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:38:34 -0000:


>> Yes you should be able to view the router login without a connection.
>> Are you actually putting in 192.168.1.0/1? There should not be a slash
>> and the end number is likely to be one of those, not 0 and 1. Also make
>> sure within a browser you use http:// before the number.

>
>It also won't be a 0 at the end - that's the subnet broadcast address.


I meant slash as in alternative, 192.168.1.0 or 192.168.1.1 as I
believe there's 2 common addresses
<URL:http://corz.org/comms/hardware/router/bt.voyager.205_router.how-to.php>

John
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Old 03-08-2006, 05:50 PM
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John wrote:
> "Spack" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>> Beck wrote on Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:38:34 -0000:

>
>>> Yes you should be able to view the router login without a
>>> connection. Are you actually putting in 192.168.1.0/1? There
>>> should not be a slash and the end number is likely to be one of
>>> those, not 0 and 1. Also make sure within a browser you use
>>> http:// before the number.

>>
>> It also won't be a 0 at the end - that's the subnet broadcast
>> address.

>
> I meant slash as in alternative, 192.168.1.0 or 192.168.1.1 as I
> believe there's 2 common addresses
> <URL:http://corz.org/comms/hardware/router/bt.voyager.205_router.how-to.php>
>


try 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1


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Old 03-08-2006, 07:14 PM
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In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Spack
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>It also won't be a 0 at the end - that's the subnet broadcast address.

Umm, no it's not, it's the network address assuming a class c subnet
>
>Dan
>
>


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Old 03-08-2006, 08:50 PM
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On 08 Mar 2006 13:50 John <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Are they all much of a muchness or are some better value for
>money than others ? Any recs ?


I'd suspect there is little between them - in the past 2-3 years
I have bought a number of cards (always budget, ie under a fiver)
for myself, neighbours or friends to add to their PCs, with not a
single problem. Nowadays, of course, they no longer come with any
BNC T-piece :-) Last time I bought a 3C905B-TX it was on Ebay at
a couple of quid, but nowadays it seems many charge more for the
delivery than the item - may be a way to avoid Ebay fees... 1p
for the item, 16.99 for delivery, for example. Peter M.
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:28 PM
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poster <us-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On 08 Mar 2006 13:50 John <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Are they all much of a muchness or are some better value for
> >money than others ? Any recs ?

>
> I'd suspect there is little between them - in the past 2-3 years
> I have bought a number of cards (always budget, ie under a fiver)
> for myself, neighbours or friends to add to their PCs, with not a
> single problem. Nowadays, of course, they no longer come with any
> BNC T-piece :-) Last time I bought a 3C905B-TX it was on Ebay at
> a couple of quid, but nowadays it seems many charge more for the
> delivery than the item - may be a way to avoid Ebay fees... 1p
> for the item, 16.99 for delivery, for example. Peter M.


There are differences between cards if you actually want to use them
at their full speed, some impose much more load on your PC than others
do if you are actually trying to transfer data at 100Mb/s (on a
100Mb/s card of course). This probably isn't an issue if all that's
going around your network is limited by the speed of your ADSL
connection.

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Old 03-08-2006, 11:03 PM
Mark McIntyre
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On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:50:33 +0000, in uk.telecom.broadband , John
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Since my old, previously redundant, 3Com 3C905B-TX is no longer
>responding it looks as if I need a new network card for my upgrade to
>ADSL. Are they all much of a muchness or are some better value for
>money than others ? Any recs ?


For consumer use, they're much of a muchness. If it costs more than
about a tenner, you're being ripped off.

If you're running a commercial business off the box, and downtime is
an issue, obviously you need to spend more cash.
Mark McIntyre
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