Virgin net - What is a contract

Virgin state that they don't tie you into a 12 month contract.

But if you read their T&Cs, they state

"... we do reserve the right to apply a £50 cancellation charge if your
service is cancelled within 12 months of activation. "



Surely this is a 12 month contract!





Brian.




Brian

"Brian" <bj[hyphen]edwards[at]tiscali[dot]co[dot]uk> wrote
in message news:(E-Mail Removed)
> Virgin state that they don't tie you into a 12 month
> contract.
> But if you read their T&Cs, they state
>
> "... we do reserve the right to apply a £50 cancellation
> charge if your service is cancelled within 12 months of
> activation. "
> Surely this is a 12 month contract!

No, you can leave any time you like, you just have to pay them £50 to do
so. If it were a 12 month contract, they would insist on you paying the
rental every month for the full 12 months.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's sneaky as well, but it isn't a contract,
it's a cancellation charge. And if what you say is correct then they do
say they only reserve the right to charge, not that they *will* do so.

Ivor

"Brian" <bj[hyphen]edwards[at]tiscali[dot]co[dot]uk> wrote:

> "... we do reserve the right to apply a £50 cancellation charge if your
> service is cancelled within 12 months of activation. "

Believe me, you won't want to cancel. Because Virgin has hard caps
(3 GB, 6 GB and 20 GB) it doesn't attract the PPPoA (Peer to Peer
Parasites of ADSL) crowd, thus maintaining a fast service at all times.
I get a full 60 KB/sec on binary groups, which is as fast as my 512 kbps
connection will allow. I used to use Tiscali on dial-up and their Usenet
feed was utter garbage.

"Ed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:kA_Qe.1012$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Brian" <bj[hyphen]edwards[at]tiscali[dot]co[dot]uk> wrote:
>
> > "... we do reserve the right to apply a £50 cancellation charge if your
> > service is cancelled within 12 months of activation. "
>
> Believe me, you won't want to cancel. Because Virgin has hard caps
> (3 GB, 6 GB and 20 GB) it doesn't attract the PPPoA (Peer to Peer
> Parasites of ADSL) crowd, thus maintaining a fast service at all times.
> I get a full 60 KB/sec on binary groups, which is as fast as my 512 kbps
> connection will allow. I used to use Tiscali on dial-up and their Usenet
> feed was utter garbage.
>

Firstly what on earth does PPPoA have to do with Peer to Peer?
Secondly, why is a P2P downloader a parasite whilst a binary downloader
presumably is not?
P
>
>

Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brian" <bj[hyphen]edwards[at]tiscali[dot]co[dot]uk> wrote
> in message news:(E-Mail Removed)
>
>>Virgin state that they don't tie you into a 12 month
>>contract.
>>But if you read their T&Cs, they state
>>
>>"... we do reserve the right to apply a £50 cancellation
>>charge if your service is cancelled within 12 months of
>>activation. "
>>Surely this is a 12 month contract!
>
>
> No, you can leave any time you like, you just have to pay them £50 to do
> so. If it were a 12 month contract, they would insist on you paying the
> rental every month for the full 12 months.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I think it's sneaky as well, but it isn't a contract,
> it's a cancellation charge. And if what you say is correct then they do
> say they only reserve the right to charge, not that they *will* do so.
>
> Ivor
>
>
It's because Virgin give you free activation and a free modem. They
don't want people joining and then leaving the next month and keeping
the modem.

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:59:53 +0000 (UTC), "Peter"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>"Ed" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:kA_Qe.1012$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Brian" <bj[hyphen]edwards[at]tiscali[dot]co[dot]uk> wrote:
>>
>> > "... we do reserve the right to apply a £50 cancellation charge if your
>> > service is cancelled within 12 months of activation. "
>>
>> Believe me, you won't want to cancel. Because Virgin has hard caps
>> (3 GB, 6 GB and 20 GB) it doesn't attract the PPPoA (Peer to Peer
>> Parasites of ADSL) crowd, thus maintaining a fast service at all times.
>> I get a full 60 KB/sec on binary groups, which is as fast as my 512 kbps
>> connection will allow. I used to use Tiscali on dial-up and their Usenet
>> feed was utter garbage.
>>
>
>Firstly what on earth does PPPoA have to do with Peer to Peer?

Nothing. I think he's making a pointed remark using a mildly humourous
twist on terminology , Peter.

[snip]

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Mark