98 and 2K machine in the same network problem?

I have two 98 and 1 2K in the same network. I can see the
2K from the 98, and I can locate the 98 machines using "
search computer" from the 2K even though not actually see
it in my Neighborhood. But I can't access 98 from the 2K
or 2K from 98. I got something like " there is no logon
server to service the request." This happened
recently. Before this, I was able to access 98 from the
2k but not the other way. The 2K is a company provided
machine so I understand that there is lmitation. But that
allows me to do the file transfer. I don't know what
happeend to cause the recent problem. Any suggestion to
get around this? Thanks!


Phil

On the Windows 98 PC, right-click the Network icon on the desktop and select
Properties. Look at the Access Control tab. Do you have share-level or
user-level access selected?

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"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:09f101c39b07$b2cc36b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have two 98 and 1 2K in the same network. I can see the
> 2K from the 98, and I can locate the 98 machines using "
> search computer" from the 2K even though not actually see
> it in my Neighborhood. But I can't access 98 from the 2K
> or 2K from 98. I got something like " there is no logon
> server to service the request." This happened
> recently. Before this, I was able to access 98 from the
> 2k but not the other way. The 2K is a company provided
> machine so I understand that there is lmitation. But that
> allows me to do the file transfer. I don't know what
> happeend to cause the recent problem. Any suggestion to
> get around this? Thanks!

I have the share level selcted. Does it plan any role?
Should I dselcted user level? thanks!

>-----Original Message-----
>On the Windows 98 PC, right-click the Network icon on the
desktop and select
>Properties. Look at the Access Control tab. Do you have
share-level or
>user-level access selected?
>
>--
>Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
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>"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>news:09f101c39b07$b2cc36b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have two 98 and 1 2K in the same network. I can see
the
>> 2K from the 98, and I can locate the 98 machines using "
>> search computer" from the 2K even though not actually
see
>> it in my Neighborhood. But I can't access 98 from the
2K
>> or 2K from 98. I got something like " there is no logon
>> server to service the request." This happened
>> recently. Before this, I was able to access 98 from the
>> 2k but not the other way. The 2K is a company provided
>> machine so I understand that there is lmitation. But
that
>> allows me to do the file transfer. I don't know what
>> happeend to cause the recent problem. Any suggestion to
>> get around this? Thanks!
>
>
>.
>

No, share-level is correct. Are any of the PCs set up to log onto a domain?

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"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:022301c39b45$6a724bf0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have the share level selcted. Does it plan any role?
> Should I dselcted user level? thanks!
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >On the Windows 98 PC, right-click the Network icon on the
> desktop and select
> >Properties. Look at the Access Control tab. Do you have
> share-level or
> >user-level access selected?
> >
> >--
> >Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
> >* Please post all messages and replies in the newsgroup
> so that
> >* all may benefit. Private mail is usually not replied
> to.
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> >
> >
> >"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> message
> >news:09f101c39b07$b2cc36b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I have two 98 and 1 2K in the same network. I can see
> the
> >> 2K from the 98, and I can locate the 98 machines using "
> >> search computer" from the 2K even though not actually
> see
> >> it in my Neighborhood. But I can't access 98 from the
> 2K
> >> or 2K from 98. I got something like " there is no logon
> >> server to service the request." This happened
> >> recently. Before this, I was able to access 98 from the
> >> 2k but not the other way. The 2K is a company provided
> >> machine so I understand that there is lmitation. But
> that
> >> allows me to do the file transfer. I don't know what
> >> happeend to cause the recent problem. Any suggestion to
> >> get around this? Thanks!
> >
> >
> >.
> >

I have a similar problem - the W2K machine is set up to log on to a domain
(at work), the W98 machine, my home machine logs on to itself, though using
the same username/password combination as the W2K machine. This allows the
W98 to access the W2K machine (at least the resources on it that I have
shared). For the W2K machine to access the shared drive on the W98 machine,
the only solution I have discovered is:
On the W2K machine, in Windows Explorer, Tools, Map Network Drive.
In the Path enter \\W98machinename\shareddrive (e.g. \\Fred\C)
Then, hit the "login as a different user", just below. Enter
W98machinename/userid (e.g. Fred/fred, take care with the slashes here) and
the corresponding password.
This lets both machines work with each other in both directions.
Having got this far, I still have a final problem. I have printers attached
to the W98 box, all shared. However, I have found no way of accessing these
printers from the W2K machine. I haven't found the equivalent of the above
as far as the printers are concerned.
Can anyone help?
Thanks
Jack
"Richard G. Harper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> No, share-level is correct. Are any of the PCs set up to log onto a
domain?
>
> "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:022301c39b45$6a724bf0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I have the share level selcted. Does it plan any role?
> > Should I dselcted user level? thanks!
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >On the Windows 98 PC, right-click the Network icon on the
> > desktop and select
> > >Properties. Look at the Access Control tab. Do you have
> > share-level or
> > >user-level access selected?
> > >
> > >--
> > >Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
> > >* Please post all messages and replies in the newsgroup
> > so that
> > >* all may benefit. Private mail is usually not replied
> > to.
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> > >
> > >
> > >"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > message
> > >news:09f101c39b07$b2cc36b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> I have two 98 and 1 2K in the same network. I can see
> > the
> > >> 2K from the 98, and I can locate the 98 machines using "
> > >> search computer" from the 2K even though not actually
> > see
> > >> it in my Neighborhood. But I can't access 98 from the
> > 2K
> > >> or 2K from 98. I got something like " there is no logon
> > >> server to service the request." This happened
> > >> recently. Before this, I was able to access 98 from the
> > >> 2k but not the other way. The 2K is a company provided
> > >> machine so I understand that there is lmitation. But
> > that
> > >> allows me to do the file transfer. I don't know what
> > >> happeend to cause the recent problem. Any suggestion to
> > >> get around this? Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
>
>

The 2K machine is set up to login to a domain. I can't
change that to workgroup ( it will lock me out of the 2k
maichine if I do that.)
>-----Original Message-----
>No, share-level is correct. Are any of the PCs set up to
log onto a domain?
>
>--
>Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
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>* all may benefit. Private mail is usually not replied
to.
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>
>"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>news:022301c39b45$6a724bf0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have the share level selcted. Does it plan any role?
>> Should I dselcted user level? thanks!
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >On the Windows 98 PC, right-click the Network icon on
the
>> desktop and select
>> >Properties. Look at the Access Control tab. Do you
have
>> share-level or
>> >user-level access selected?
>> >
>> >--
>> >Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
>> >* Please post all messages and replies in the newsgroup
>> so that
>> >* all may benefit. Private mail is usually not replied
>> to.
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l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> message
>> >news:09f101c39b07$b2cc36b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> I have two 98 and 1 2K in the same network. I can see
>> the
>> >> 2K from the 98, and I can locate the 98 machines
using "
>> >> search computer" from the 2K even though not actually
>> see
>> >> it in my Neighborhood. But I can't access 98 from
the
>> 2K
>> >> or 2K from 98. I got something like " there is no
logon
>> >> server to service the request." This happened
>> >> recently. Before this, I was able to access 98 from
the
>> >> 2k but not the other way. The 2K is a company
provided
>> >> machine so I understand that there is lmitation. But
>> that
>> >> allows me to do the file transfer. I don't know what
>> >> happeend to cause the recent problem. Any
suggestion to
>> >> get around this? Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

Actually I needed to play a little trick on this... this
wa some time ago. I needed to set up the workgroup name
to the same as the domain name in the 2K machine. That
name of course is set by the company. Anf recently it wa
s changed. So I changed the workgroup name to it. When I
ddi that, this allowed to see the 2K machine from the
98. I also once was able to see 98 from 2K. only ince
But then I could not see it at all. only the very moment
I changed the name. The first time. Then I could not get
it anymore. Rather strange. I am talking about my
latest experience. Since I could not browse the 98 from
2k , I couldn't map drive either. I am still stucked.
Any suggestion?
>-----Original Message-----
>No, share-level is correct. Are any of the PCs set up to
log onto a domain?
>
>--
>Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
>* Please post all messages and replies in the newsgroup
so that
>* all may benefit. Private mail is usually not replied
to.
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>
>
>"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>news:022301c39b45$6a724bf0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I have the share level selcted. Does it plan any role?
>> Should I dselcted user level? thanks!
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >On the Windows 98 PC, right-click the Network icon on
the
>> desktop and select
>> >Properties. Look at the Access Control tab. Do you
have
>> share-level or
>> >user-level access selected?
>> >
>> >--
>> >Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
>> >* Please post all messages and replies in the newsgroup
>> so that
>> >* all may benefit. Private mail is usually not replied
>> to.
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l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >
>> >
>> >"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> message
>> >news:09f101c39b07$b2cc36b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> I have two 98 and 1 2K in the same network. I can see
>> the
>> >> 2K from the 98, and I can locate the 98 machines
using "
>> >> search computer" from the 2K even though not actually
>> see
>> >> it in my Neighborhood. But I can't access 98 from
the
>> 2K
>> >> or 2K from 98. I got something like " there is no
logon
>> >> server to service the request." This happened
>> >> recently. Before this, I was able to access 98 from
the
>> >> 2k but not the other way. The 2K is a company
provided
>> >> machine so I understand that there is lmitation. But
>> that
>> >> allows me to do the file transfer. I don't know what
>> >> happeend to cause the recent problem. Any
suggestion to
>> >> get around this? Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

That is exactly the problem I had - try what I suggested in my
previous mailing, i.e. from the W2K machine, in Explorer, Map Network
Drive, Connect using a different Name. You won't be able to browse
anything, so you'll have to type everything in by hand, as I
described.
Regards, Jack

"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:<042301c39c4e$b9c03730$(E-Mail Removed)>...
> Actually I needed to play a little trick on this... this
> wa some time ago. I needed to set up the workgroup name
> to the same as the domain name in the 2K machine. That
> name of course is set by the company. Anf recently it wa
> s changed. So I changed the workgroup name to it. When I
> ddi that, this allowed to see the 2K machine from the
> 98. I also once was able to see 98 from 2K. only ince
> But then I could not see it at all. only the very moment
> I changed the name. The first time. Then I could not get
> it anymore. Rather strange. I am talking about my
> latest experience. Since I could not browse the 98 from
> 2k , I couldn't map drive either. I am still stucked.
> Any suggestion?

Jack, thanks! I will try it agian tonight. I did try that
last night. But I kept getting wrong password prompt. I
thought that was due to " not being able to see" it.
Anyway, I will try it again.
>-----Original Message-----
>That is exactly the problem I had - try what I suggested
in my
>previous mailing, i.e. from the W2K machine, in Explorer,
Map Network
>Drive, Connect using a different Name. You won't be able
to browse
>anything, so you'll have to type everything in by hand,
as I
>described.
>Regards, Jack
>
>"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:<042301c39c4e$b9c03730$(E-Mail Removed)>...
>> Actually I needed to play a little trick on this...
this
>> wa some time ago. I needed to set up the workgroup
name
>> to the same as the domain name in the 2K machine.
That
>> name of course is set by the company. Anf recently it
wa
>> s changed. So I changed the workgroup name to it.
When I
>> ddi that, this allowed to see the 2K machine from the
>> 98. I also once was able to see 98 from 2K. only ince
>> But then I could not see it at all. only the very
moment
>> I changed the name. The first time. Then I could not
get
>> it anymore. Rather strange. I am talking about my
>> latest experience. Since I could not browse the 98
from
>> 2k , I couldn't map drive either. I am still
stucked.
>> Any suggestion?
>.
>

Jack,

Your method finally worked for me. I found out that even
though I had at least one share file on 2K, I did not set
the access control on that right. I needed to add a guest
access. This was done at the "property" of the share
file. I also needed to set " guest account disable" off.
This was done at 2K the "user and password -> advanced
tab--> advanced bottom, then "user" file". In there look "
guest" property.

I still remeber that in the past I did not need to do map
drive to achieve file transfer. But at least I can
transfer files now.

>-----Original Message-----
>I have a similar problem - the W2K machine is set up to
log on to a domain
>(at work), the W98 machine, my home machine logs on to
itself, though using
>the same username/password combination as the W2K
machine. This allows the
>W98 to access the W2K machine (at least the resources on
it that I have
>shared). For the W2K machine to access the shared drive
on the W98 machine,
>the only solution I have discovered is:
>On the W2K machine, in Windows Explorer, Tools, Map
Network Drive.
>In the Path enter \\W98machinename\shareddrive (e.g.
\\Fred\C)
>Then, hit the "login as a different user", just below.
Enter
>W98machinename/userid (e.g. Fred/fred, take care with the
slashes here) and
>the corresponding password.
>This lets both machines work with each other in both
directions.
>Having got this far, I still have a final problem. I have
printers attached
>to the W98 box, all shared. However, I have found no way
of accessing these
>printers from the W2K machine. I haven't found the
equivalent of the above
>as far as the printers are concerned.
>Can anyone help?
>Thanks
>Jack
>"Richard G. Harper" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> No, share-level is correct. Are any of the PCs set up
to log onto a
>domain?
>>
>> "Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message
>> news:022301c39b45$6a724bf0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > I have the share level selcted. Does it plan any
role?
>> > Should I dselcted user level? thanks!
>> >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >On the Windows 98 PC, right-click the Network icon
on the
>> > desktop and select
>> > >Properties. Look at the Access Control tab. Do you
have
>> > share-level or
>> > >user-level access selected?
>> > >
>> > >--
>> > >Richard G. Harper ((E-Mail Removed)) MVP Win9x
>> > >* Please post all messages and replies in the
newsgroup
>> > so that
>> > >* all may benefit. Private mail is usually not
replied
>> > to.
>> > >* Help US Help YOU ... http://www.dts-
l.org/goodpost.htm
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >"Phil" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> > message
>> > >news:09f101c39b07$b2cc36b0$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > >> I have two 98 and 1 2K in the same network. I can
see
>> > the
>> > >> 2K from the 98, and I can locate the 98 machines
using "
>> > >> search computer" from the 2K even though not
actually
>> > see
>> > >> it in my Neighborhood. But I can't access 98 from
the
>> > 2K
>> > >> or 2K from 98. I got something like " there is no
logon
>> > >> server to service the request." This happened
>> > >> recently. Before this, I was able to access 98
from the
>> > >> 2k but not the other way. The 2K is a company
provided
>> > >> machine so I understand that there is lmitation.
But
>> > that
>> > >> allows me to do the file transfer. I don't know
what
>> > >> happeend to cause the recent problem. Any
suggestion to
>> > >> get around this? Thanks!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >.
>> > >
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>