draytek Vigor2600

please help.I have a draytek vigor2600 with a wireless laptop and 2
wireless desktop.Everthing works brill and would recomend this router
to anyone. My qustion is(i am not that technical)i bought a new
desktop and installed a different wireless adapter card,whilst
searching for the router i found one that belongs to someone that must
live near me. Theirs had a little lock sign and a message "keep out
twat" and it is greyed out. So this got me thinking can other people
see mine and if so how do i stop people in the same way.


stuart harmes

"stuart harmes" (E-Mail Removed) wrote in message
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>
> So this got me thinking can other people
> see mine and if so how do i stop people in the same way.

Somewhere in the wireless config area of the Draytek, you'll be able to
specify that you want to use 40- or 128-bit WEP encryption. AIUI, you enter
a code there, the same code in your wireless card config utility plus the
same number of bits and bob's your uncle.

Grant:
>Somewhere in the wireless config area of the Draytek, you'll be able to
>specify that you want to use 40- or 128-bit WEP encryption. AIUI, you enter
>a code there, the same code in your wireless card config utility plus the
>same number of bits and bob's your uncle.

While the encryption will stop people (but not CIA or determined hackers)
reading your wifi packets, it does NOT stop someone connecting to your wifi
network and using it.
To prevent that you have to specify that only the MAC addresses of your wifi
cards / adapters can connect to your router.
You should also disable the broadcast of your network name.
However, it is still possible for someone to clone one of your MAC addresses
on their adapter, you should therefore periodically check your router setup
pages for any unauthorised connections.
Wifi networks are inherently insecure !
Regards,
Martin

"Martin²" (E-Mail Removed) wrote in message
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> While the encryption will stop people (but not CIA or determined
> hackers) reading your wifi packets, it does NOT stop someone
> connecting to your wifi network and using it.

Hmm, for my one user network here I can't see anyone camping outside for
eight weeks collecting the neccesary number of packets to be able to connect


Assuming http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials...le.php/2106281 is
accurate.

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:31:22 +0100, "Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Grant:
>>Somewhere in the wireless config area of the Draytek, you'll be able to
>>specify that you want to use 40- or 128-bit WEP encryption. AIUI, you enter
>>a code there, the same code in your wireless card config utility plus the
>>same number of bits and bob's your uncle.
>
>While the encryption will stop people (but not CIA or determined hackers)
>reading your wifi packets, it does NOT stop someone connecting to your wifi
>network and using it.

How do you connect to a network with encryption enabled if you don't
know the key?

Chris

"Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Grant:
> >Somewhere in the wireless config area of the Draytek, you'll be able to
> >specify that you want to use 40- or 128-bit WEP encryption. AIUI, you
enter
> >a code there, the same code in your wireless card config utility plus the
> >same number of bits and bob's your uncle.
>
> While the encryption will stop people (but not CIA or determined hackers)
> reading your wifi packets, it does NOT stop someone connecting to your
wifi
> network and using it.
> To prevent that you have to specify that only the MAC addresses of your
wifi
> cards / adapters can connect to your router.
> You should also disable the broadcast of your network name.
> However, it is still possible for someone to clone one of your MAC
addresses
> on their adapter, you should therefore periodically check your router
setup
> pages for any unauthorised connections.
> Wifi networks are inherently insecure !
> Regards,
> Martin
>
>

If someone is spoofing one of your MAC addresses, how could you tell there
had been unauthorised connections? Or do you mean unauthorised changes to
the configuration?

Foxy :-)~

In article <415b61eb$0$17934$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Martin² <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Grant:
>>Somewhere in the wireless config area of the Draytek, you'll be able to
>>specify that you want to use 40- or 128-bit WEP encryption. AIUI, you enter
>>a code there, the same code in your wireless card config utility plus the
>>same number of bits and bob's your uncle.
>
>While the encryption will stop people (but not CIA or determined hackers)
>reading your wifi packets, it does NOT stop someone connecting to your wifi
>network and using it.
Ummm...
Encryption only stops people reading packets?!
So, Mr Hacker sends sends un-encrypted packets to your router, and your
router tries to decrypt them - this it will fail to do as the packet
wasn't encrypted in the first place. So the transmitted packet is now garbage.
It's not going to be much use.

>To prevent that you have to specify that only the MAC addresses of your wifi
>cards / adapters can connect to your router.
As someone points out, if someone is savvy enough to break encryption,
they can break MAC authentication also.

IMO, turning on WEP encryption will put off 99% of people.
I understand WPA is much more secure although I haven't looked into this as
my kit doesn't support it. The latest Drayteks do.

Pete

On 30/09/2004 02:31 Martin² got up from the bar and shouted..:
> Grant:
>
>>Somewhere in the wireless config area of the Draytek, you'll be able to
>>specify that you want to use 40- or 128-bit WEP encryption. AIUI, you enter
>>a code there, the same code in your wireless card config utility plus the
>>same number of bits and bob's your uncle.
>
>
> While the encryption will stop people (but not CIA or determined hackers)
> reading your wifi packets, it does NOT stop someone connecting to your wifi
> network and using it.

It does not people on mine... If they don't know the key, they can't get
in...
--
"This dog don't give a feck..."

Chris Blunt wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 02:31:22 +0100, "Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>
>>Grant:
>>
>>>Somewhere in the wireless config area of the Draytek, you'll be able to
>>>specify that you want to use 40- or 128-bit WEP encryption. AIUI, you enter
>>>a code there, the same code in your wireless card config utility plus the
>>>same number of bits and bob's your uncle.
>>
>>While the encryption will stop people (but not CIA or determined hackers)
>>reading your wifi packets, it does NOT stop someone connecting to your wifi
>>network and using it.
>
>
> How do you connect to a network with encryption enabled if you don't
> know the key?
>
> Chris
>
You sit outside the building with a laptop running linux and the
appropriate cracking software, sniff enough packets, try to not look
conspicuous and wait......

L3K

> How do you connect to a network with encryption enabled if you don't
> know the key?

The packets required to connect to the WiFi are not encrypted. I understand
that with the right software and knowledge you can gain control of the
router.
Regards,
Martin