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Old 02-20-2004, 08:51 PM
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A query that maybe stupid but...
Currently I have Home Highway and with it a fax utility that can receive and
send faxes

I have registered with PlusNet ADSL - waiting conversion

I know they offer a fax2email service so I can receive faxes (actually not
succeeded in getting it to work yet and activated over 24hrs ago?)

the main question is - is there a simple and CHEAP / FREE (pay per call) way
to send faxes using ADSL?
so it will be the same as using a fax/modem or ISDN fax

cheers

Ian




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Old 02-20-2004, 09:01 PM
Tiscali Tim
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Ian Nelson <(E-Mail Removed)(AT)neltek.com> wrote:

> A query that maybe stupid but...
> Currently I have Home Highway and with it a fax utility that can
> receive and send faxes
>
> I have registered with PlusNet ADSL - waiting conversion
>
> I know they offer a fax2email service so I can receive faxes
> (actually not succeeded in getting it to work yet and activated over
> 24hrs ago?)
>
> the main question is - is there a simple and CHEAP / FREE (pay per
> call) way to send faxes using ADSL?
> so it will be the same as using a fax/modem or ISDN fax
>
> cheers
>
> Ian



Presumably on HH you use Analog 1 for voice for Analog 2 for fax?

With ADSL, you only get one analog line - which you will need to share for
voice and outgoing faxes - by plugging your existing fax modem into the same
line (but different socket!) as your phone. The fax modem will need a
microfilter - unless you have an ADSL master socket with built-in filter.

Incoming faxes are converted into emails, and don't use your phone line - so
no problem. As long as you don't send too many outgoing faxes, using the
voice line should not be too much of a problem.
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Old 02-20-2004, 09:14 PM
Ian Nelson
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Nope
I use ISDN line for faxing - BT HH comes with "Speedway!fax" utility and
card has number of drivers - PPP, ISDN, Fax
ISDN can emulate analog modem (if that were ever needed) and has fax
function
So I use 1 64K digi line for ISDN internet
and other for fax
ISDN allows and 2 of ISDN 64k digi lines, and analogue lines to be active at
a time
i.e. 2 analogue and no ISDN
or
2 ISDN and no analogue
or
1 ISDN and 1 analogue

But to send and receive faxes I do it on one of the ISDN lines through the
ISDN TA.

So no modem used.

??

I guess you are saying - install a fax/modem and go back to those days?

Ian

"Tiscali Tim" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:c15sjc$1eh4bv$(E-Mail Removed)...
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Ian Nelson <(E-Mail Removed)(AT)neltek.com> wrote:
>
> > A query that maybe stupid but...
> > Currently I have Home Highway and with it a fax utility that can
> > receive and send faxes
> >
> > I have registered with PlusNet ADSL - waiting conversion
> >
> > I know they offer a fax2email service so I can receive faxes
> > (actually not succeeded in getting it to work yet and activated over
> > 24hrs ago?)
> >
> > the main question is - is there a simple and CHEAP / FREE (pay per
> > call) way to send faxes using ADSL?
> > so it will be the same as using a fax/modem or ISDN fax
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Ian

>
>
> Presumably on HH you use Analog 1 for voice for Analog 2 for fax?
>
> With ADSL, you only get one analog line - which you will need to share for
> voice and outgoing faxes - by plugging your existing fax modem into the

same
> line (but different socket!) as your phone. The fax modem will need a
> microfilter - unless you have an ADSL master socket with built-in filter.
>
> Incoming faxes are converted into emails, and don't use your phone line -

so
> no problem. As long as you don't send too many outgoing faxes, using the
> voice line should not be too much of a problem.
> --
> Cheers,
> Tim
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>
>



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Old 02-20-2004, 09:31 PM
Malcolm Loades
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In message <c15tak$u10$(E-Mail Removed)>, Ian Nelson
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>
>But to send and receive faxes I do it on one of the ISDN lines through the
>ISDN TA.
>
>So no modem used.
>
>??
>
>I guess you are saying - install a fax/modem and go back to those days?
>

With ADSL a fax/modem is still a useful standby for when (for surely it
will) ADSL fails. At work we have Zen ADSL, one of the most reliable
suppliers, but only last week BT had a failure in our exchange and we
lost the ADSL connection for 5 hours. At least with 56k dial up we
could still receive mail ...... forget the web browsing ;-(
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Old 02-20-2004, 09:40 PM
Tiscali Tim
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Ian Nelson <(E-Mail Removed)(AT)neltek.com> wrote:

>
> I guess you are saying - install a fax/modem and go back to those
> days?
>
> Ian
>


Yes. As far as I know you'll have to use an analog fax modem for outgoing
faxes on a line with ADSL - unless anyone knows differently?
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Old 02-20-2004, 09:42 PM
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>But to send and receive faxes I do it on one of the ISDN lines through the
>ISDN TA.
>
>So no modem used.
>

A TA is a modem, it's just called something different and uses a
different line type but does the same job.
...

SJW
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Old 02-20-2004, 09:44 PM
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"Ian Nelson" <(E-Mail Removed)(AT)neltek.com> wrote in message

> the main question is - is there a simple and CHEAP / FREE (pay per call)

way
> to send faxes using ADSL?
> so it will be the same as using a fax/modem or ISDN fax


There is a free way. Doesn't look to good for commercial use (half page
adverts) run by demon in the UK. Its paid for by the people you send a fax
to getting the advert on the page:

http://www.tpc.int/sendfax.html

Send your plusnet number a fax from it and take a look what it looks like.

Jc.


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Old 02-20-2004, 10:14 PM
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"Ian Nelson" <(E-Mail Removed)(AT)neltek.com> wrote in message
news:c15rv4$sb2$(E-Mail Removed)...
> A query that maybe stupid but...
> Currently I have Home Highway and with it a fax utility that can receive

and
> send faxes
>
> the main question is - is there a simple and CHEAP / FREE (pay per call)

way
> to send faxes using ADSL?
> so it will be the same as using a fax/modem or ISDN fax
>

http://instantfax.co.uk/send_faxes.html works fine and instantly on adsl.

Alun (it's my site, incidentally)


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Old 02-20-2004, 11:23 PM
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I'm using ADSL through a ST 530 Router and still have my old 56k PCI modem
installed too. I'm also using a dedicated phone line to the PC.

The wall socket has the splitter plugged in and the router line is connected
to the ADSL slot and the line from the 56k modem is connected to the other.

This gives me always on ADSL through the router and always on fax through
the PCI modem. The PCI modem is also as backup for PAYG should the ADSL
fail.

I use Winfax software, but there are alternatives around.
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Old 02-21-2004, 09:45 AM
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In message <c15us0$1f578m$(E-Mail Removed)>, Tiscali Tim
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>> I guess you are saying - install a fax/modem and go back to those
>> days?
>>
>> Ian
>>

>
>Yes. As far as I know you'll have to use an analog fax modem for outgoing
>faxes on a line with ADSL - unless anyone knows differently?


Http://www.e2txt.com/

A friend of mine set up and runs this. I can vouch for his honesty, if
not his web design skills.

Its a PAYG service. I believe you can send about 4 pages for just over
20p
You can either email text, or can include a doc, pdf, xls file etc and
it gets converted and sent automatically.
Give it a bash. At the moment you need to register before you get
detailed instructions !?!
(I've just now phoned him and given him an earbashing about this)
Might be worth a few quid to give it a go. I've tried it and it works
fine.

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