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Old 12-21-2003, 12:35 PM
Default Does any ISP provide a combo Wireless Modem, Router, Firewall...?



Hi, Am thinking of going the wireless route for some home PCs.
Is a combo wireless router/modem and firwall a good idea? If so does any ISP
include it in their starting package (looking for approx £24pm).

Or is it better/cheaper to buy a separate modem(ethernet!) and wireless
router.

Thanks!
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Old 12-21-2003, 12:46 PM
Sunil Sood
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"Grumpycrab" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi, Am thinking of going the wireless route for some home PCs.
> Is a combo wireless router/modem and firwall a good idea? If so does any

ISP
> include it in their starting package (looking for approx £24pm).


There are several wireless router/modem "All in One" options - including:

Netgear DG834G
Belkin model: F5D7630
Linksys WAG54G
US Robotics USR9106
Draytek Vigor 2600G

However, you won't find any ISP giving them "free" in a starting package as
they are quite expensive.

BulldogDSL offer the Netgear
(http://www.bulldogdsl.com/special_offers.asp#netgear) as a "starter pack"
but you may be better off buying it from Amazon/Ebuyer etc

> Or is it better/cheaper to buy a separate modem(ethernet!) and wireless
> router.


This option will be more expensive though it may make upgrading easier.

All these options are "54G"/802.11b solutions, those based on the
older/slower 802.11b will be cheaper

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Sunil


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Old 12-21-2003, 12:48 PM
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"Sunil Sood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> All these options are "54G"/802.11b solutions


54G/802.11g even

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Old 12-22-2003, 02:24 AM
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Sunil:
>There are several wireless router/modem "All in One" options - including:


>Netgear DG834G
>Belkin model: F5D7630
>Linksys WAG54G
>US Robotics USR9106
>Draytek Vigor 2600G


Netgear is the worst, Draytek the best. Rest OK.
However there is not much point going for the 54Mbps/ 802.11g spec, the
extra speed is only between your computers, no advantage for internet
access.
It's only worth it if you need to transfer gigabyte files between your
computers in a big hurry.
Regards,
Martin


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Old 12-22-2003, 07:58 AM
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Martin² wrote:
> Sunil:
>> There are several wireless router/modem "All in One" options -
>> including:

>
>> Netgear DG834G
>> Belkin model: F5D7630
>> Linksys WAG54G
>> US Robotics USR9106
>> Draytek Vigor 2600G

>
> Netgear is the worst, Draytek the best. Rest OK.
> However there is not much point going for the 54Mbps/ 802.11g spec,
> the extra speed is only between your computers, no advantage for
> internet access.
> It's only worth it if you need to transfer gigabyte files between your
> computers in a big hurry.
> Regards,
> Martin


or stream video from a "home theatre PC/server" to a laptop etc. etc.

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Old 12-23-2003, 11:56 PM
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> >There are several wireless router/modem "All in One" options - including:
>
> >Netgear DG834G
> >Belkin model: F5D7630
> >Linksys WAG54G
> >US Robotics USR9106
> >Draytek Vigor 2600G

>
> Netgear is the worst, Draytek the best. Rest OK.
> However there is not much point going for the 54Mbps/ 802.11g spec, the
> extra speed is only between your computers, no advantage for internet
> access.


Exellent point (802.11g is no advantage for internet access). But are
there any "sub-802.11g" spec "All in Ones"?
I assume they are cheaper too!?
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Old 12-24-2003, 02:00 AM
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"Grumpycrab" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > However there is not much point going for the 54Mbps/ 802.11g spec, the
> > extra speed is only between your computers, no advantage for internet
> > access.

>
> Exellent point (802.11g is no advantage for internet access). But are
> there any "sub-802.11g" spec "All in Ones"?
> I assume they are cheaper too!?


There are only one or two I am aware of.

Have a look at ebuyer.com - quickfind codes 55543 and 48452

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Sunil


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Old 12-24-2003, 06:08 PM
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In article <bsakne$bd3n6$(E-Mail Removed)>, Grumpycrab
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>> >There are several wireless router/modem "All in One" options - including:

>>
>> >Netgear DG834G
>> >Belkin model: F5D7630
>> >Linksys WAG54G
>> >US Robotics USR9106
>> >Draytek Vigor 2600G

>>
>> Netgear is the worst, Draytek the best. Rest OK.
>> However there is not much point going for the 54Mbps/ 802.11g spec, the
>> extra speed is only between your computers, no advantage for internet
>> access.

>
>Exellent point (802.11g is no advantage for internet access). But are
>there any "sub-802.11g" spec "All in Ones"?
>I assume they are cheaper too!?


There's always the Vigor 2600W

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Old 12-25-2003, 03:22 PM
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All of the manufacturers 802.11b kit is still readily available, should be
getting cheaper too.
Draytek Vigor 2600We has all the features, easy to setup and reliable, not
cheap though.
Broadbanbuyer.co.uk or wireless4u.co.uk had best prices last time I looked.
Regards,
Martin


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Old 12-28-2003, 05:59 PM
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"Grumpycrab" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi, Am thinking of going the wireless route for some home PCs.
> Is a combo wireless router/modem and firwall a good idea? If so does any

ISP
> include it in their starting package (looking for approx £24pm).
>
> Or is it better/cheaper to buy a separate modem(ethernet!) and wireless
> router.
>
> Thanks!
> --
> Ian
>

I'm not aware of any inclusive starter packages offering such hardware but
if you want a truely all in one device you may consider buying the SMC
7404WBRA Barricade. Its reviewed here: http://adslguide.org/reviews/ . As
well as the features you're wanting, a good thing about this, which the
others don't have, is a built in parallel port print server so you can share
a parallel port printer between several PCs without one "server PC" needing
to be running. I have one and it works perfectly.

You also then have the freedom of easily being able to change ISPs without
having to give the hardware back - it's yours from the outset.

Paul


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