Modem/Router

Having just received my Speedtouch 330 from Pipex I wondered if there was a
big market for the "does anyone want to swap this brand new modem for a
router?" trade )

I suppose most people just have the one pc to connect but a fair few must
have more than one......or am I being a bit daft?

Mungo


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Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot

Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
> Having just received my Speedtouch 330 from Pipex I wondered if there was a
> big market for the "does anyone want to swap this brand new modem for a
> router?" trade )

Can't see that many router owners looking for a downgrade.... but you
could probably ebay the modem and put the proceeds toward a router ;-)

> I suppose most people just have the one pc to connect but a fair few must
> have more than one......or am I being a bit daft?

To be honest, you are better off with a router even if you only have one
PC.


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Can you explain exactly what a router does? Cheers.

Bobby

"John Rumm" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Mungo "two sheds" Toadfoot wrote:
> > Having just received my Speedtouch 330 from Pipex I wondered if there
was a
> > big market for the "does anyone want to swap this brand new modem for a
> > router?" trade )
>
> Can't see that many router owners looking for a downgrade.... but you
> could probably ebay the modem and put the proceeds toward a router ;-)
>
> > I suppose most people just have the one pc to connect but a fair few
must
> > have more than one......or am I being a bit daft?
>
> To be honest, you are better off with a router even if you only have one
> PC.
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> John.
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> Can you explain exactly what a router does? Cheers.

In a nutshell, and this will be crap :-}

....it will seperate the "outside" network from the "inside" network - if
you have a 4 port router (with or without modem), the "uplink" or modem
connection will be kept seperated from the 4 "user" ports by use of
something called NAT (network address translation).

The router will be given an IP address, either by a seperate modem or by
one built in when it connects to the ISP. Lets for the sake of argument
call that IP address 81.82.83.84

The computers plugges into the "user" side of the router will be given
something completely different, ie. 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.2 etc

The router will remember which computer asked for information from the
internet, and will pass that request along and "out". When it comes back,
it will remember which computer asked for the information and pass it to
the correct computer.

This also means that any hacker who tries to attack the only IP address
he has for you (no matter how many PCs you have plugged in) will only get
as far as the router, and since it wasn`t expecting anything back from
the hackers` IP address, it will be ignored. Since the hacker has no way
of knowing what the IP addresses are that the router gave to the
"internal" network, there`s almost no chance he would ever be able to
hack into them.

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Cheers, Colin, that sure beats the usual "go check Google" crap.

Bobby

"Colin Wilson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > Can you explain exactly what a router does? Cheers.
>
> In a nutshell, and this will be crap :-}
>
> ...it will seperate the "outside" network from the "inside" network - if
> you have a 4 port router (with or without modem), the "uplink" or modem
> connection will be kept seperated from the 4 "user" ports by use of
> something called NAT (network address translation).
>
> The router will be given an IP address, either by a seperate modem or by
> one built in when it connects to the ISP. Lets for the sake of argument
> call that IP address 81.82.83.84
>
> The computers plugges into the "user" side of the router will be given
> something completely different, ie. 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.2 etc
>
> The router will remember which computer asked for information from the
> internet, and will pass that request along and "out". When it comes back,
> it will remember which computer asked for the information and pass it to
> the correct computer.
>
> This also means that any hacker who tries to attack the only IP address
> he has for you (no matter how many PCs you have plugged in) will only get
> as far as the router, and since it wasn`t expecting anything back from
> the hackers` IP address, it will be ignored. Since the hacker has no way
> of knowing what the IP addresses are that the router gave to the
> "internal" network, there`s almost no chance he would ever be able to
> hack into them.
>
> --
> Please add "[newsgroup]" in the subject of any personal replies via email
> or you are likely to be spam filtered :-}

Bobby enlightened the world by saying on 12/09/2003 19:26:

> Cheers, Colin, that sure beats the usual "go check Google" crap.
>
> Bobby

Or the quit top posting response...



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> Bobby enlightened the world by saying on 12/09/2003 19:26:
>
> > Cheers, Colin, that sure beats the usual "go check Google" crap.
> >
> > Bobby
>
> Or the quit top posting response...
>
>
>
> --
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>

Bobby Writes

>and the "top-posting-is-better-than-bottom-posting-if-you-don't-quote" reply
>to that response.

As someone who is perhaps a bit anal about Usenet composition, I must
say that uk.t.b is probably the best NG, in that respect, I have ever
come across. And, much as it pains me to admit it, there is something to
be said for the above statement. (Not that I could bring myself to do
it.)

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In article <7QINH$IDUfZ$(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)-p-
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> Bobby Writes
>
> >and the "top-posting-is-better-than-bottom-posting-if-you-don't-quote" reply
> >to that response.
>
> As someone who is perhaps a bit anal about Usenet composition, I must
> say that uk.t.b is probably the best NG, in that respect, I have ever
> come across. And, much as it pains me to admit it, there is something to
> be said for the above statement. (Not that I could bring myself to do
> it.)

alt.babylon5.uk is very good.

We (the regulars) normally politely point out to someone that top posting
isn't the done thing.

If they then top post again, we fall upon them, and devour them like the
animals they are.

Somehow word gets out though, even though we leave no survivors.

Pete.

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On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:33:52 +0100 and in article <bk3q11$ot8nn$1@ID-
205685.news.uni-berlin.de>, Bobby said...
: and the "top-posting-is-better-than-bottom-posting-if-you-don't-quote" reply
: to that response.
:
*plonk*
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