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Old 09-10-2003, 10:32 PM
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Not as yet having broadband I would like to ask something about
microfilters.

I know they seperate voice from data traffic but if all computers were
switched off could the telephone just use a normal phone socket or
would it still need to be connected through a filter.

Geoff Lane



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Old 09-10-2003, 10:38 PM
Kraftee
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Geoff Lane wrote:
> Not as yet having broadband I would like to ask something about
> microfilters.
>
> I know they seperate voice from data traffic but if all computers
> were switched off could the telephone just use a normal phone
> socket or would it still need to be connected through a filter.
>
> Geoff Lane


If your ADSL service is not active you can use a phone without a
filter, but why go to all the trouble of unplugging all the filters
when you have to replace them back in the sockets when you want to use
the DSL service again??

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Old 09-11-2003, 12:03 AM
Roderick Stewart
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In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Geoff Lane
wrote:
> I know they seperate voice from data traffic but if all computers were
> switched off could the telephone just use a normal phone socket or
> would it still need to be connected through a filter.


The filters would still be needed to remove the high frequency ADSL
signal from the exchange, even if your modem is unplugged. Since a
telephone neither needs nor generates signals in this frequency range,
there is nothing to lose by leaving the filter in place.

Rod.


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Old 09-11-2003, 05:44 AM
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Roderick Stewart wrote:
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Geoff Lane
> wrote:
>> I know they seperate voice from data traffic but if all computers
>> were switched off could the telephone just use a normal phone
>> socket or would it still need to be connected through a filter.

>
> The filters would still be needed to remove the high frequency ADSL
> signal from the exchange, even if your modem is unplugged.


What high frequency signals??????


Hint.........

If the modem is unplugged/turned off the DSL exchange equipment parks
itself until it detects the presence of the Modem again, hence the
DSL signal is turned off so no filtering is required...



>Since a
> telephone neither needs nor generates signals in this frequency
> range, there is nothing to lose by leaving the filter in place.


Now I agree with that....

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Old 09-11-2003, 06:36 AM
Roderick Stewart
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In article <53T7b.14$(E-Mail Removed)>, Kraftee
wrote:
> > The filters would still be needed to remove the high frequency ADSL
> > signal from the exchange, even if your modem is unplugged.

>
> What high frequency signals??????
>
> Hint.........
>
> If the modem is unplugged/turned off the DSL exchange equipment parks
> itself until it detects the presence of the Modem again, hence the
> DSL signal is turned off so no filtering is required...
>

And how does it detect the presence of a modem?

Rod.

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Old 09-11-2003, 06:40 AM
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"Roderick Stewart" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <53T7b.14$(E-Mail Removed)>, Kraftee
> wrote:
> > > The filters would still be needed to remove the high frequency ADSL
> > > signal from the exchange, even if your modem is unplugged.

> >
> > What high frequency signals??????
> >
> > Hint.........
> >
> > If the modem is unplugged/turned off the DSL exchange equipment parks
> > itself until it detects the presence of the Modem again, hence the
> > DSL signal is turned off so no filtering is required...
> >

> And how does it detect the presence of a modem?


The modem signals to the equipment at the exchange - not the other way
around..

Therefore as long as the modem is switched off or disconnected - the OP will
be able to make his voice calls on an unfiltered line without a problem.

Regards
Sunil


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Old 09-11-2003, 07:39 PM
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Kraftee wrote:
>
> Hint.........
>
> If the modem is unplugged/turned off the DSL exchange equipment parks
> itself until it detects the presence of the Modem again, hence the
> DSL signal is turned off so no filtering is required...


Interesting. I don't doubt what you say. However I was enabled for ADSL whilst
away on holiday. I was in no doubt on my return that I had been, I picked up the phone
and it was hissing away. At this stage my ADSL Router and filters were still packed
in a box !


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Old 09-11-2003, 08:06 PM
Phil Thompson
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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 19:39:41 +0100, "Mark Carver"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I picked up the phone
>and it was hissing away.


same here. Maybe its crosstalk once your wire is moved over to the
dslam connection rack.

Phil
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Old 09-11-2003, 08:07 PM
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Mark Carver wrote:
> Kraftee wrote:
>>
>> Hint.........
>>
>> If the modem is unplugged/turned off the DSL exchange equipment
>> parks itself until it detects the presence of the Modem again,
>> hence the DSL signal is turned off so no filtering is required...

>
> Interesting. I don't doubt what you say. However I was enabled for
> ADSL whilst
> away on holiday. I was in no doubt on my return that I had been, I
> picked up the phone and it was hissing away. At this stage my ADSL
> Router and filters were still packed in a box !


It shouldn't have, honest.

It's all I can say. I'm not going to not believe you as I've known
sillier things to happen.

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Old 09-11-2003, 08:52 PM
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Kraftee wrote:
> Mark Carver wrote:
>
>>Kraftee wrote:
>>
>>>Hint.........
>>>
>>>If the modem is unplugged/turned off the DSL exchange equipment
>>>parks itself until it detects the presence of the Modem again,
>>>hence the DSL signal is turned off so no filtering is required...

>>
>>Interesting. I don't doubt what you say. However I was enabled for
>>ADSL whilst
>>away on holiday. I was in no doubt on my return that I had been, I
>>picked up the phone and it was hissing away. At this stage my ADSL
>>Router and filters were still packed in a box !

>
>
> It shouldn't have, honest.
>
> It's all I can say. I'm not going to not believe you as I've known
> sillier things to happen.
>


perhaps you would have more credibility if you actually had adsl

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