ZEN INTERNET

What a great sunrise Zen's most brilliant news server is down yet
again this morning Is Zen totally incapable of keeping their
server on line for more than 14 days or what ! .
This is getting really pathetic they either provide a news service or
they don't and should not say that they do and then hardly ever
maintain it or keep it working . Of course Zen support will come along
with some flimsy excuse for the latest fiasco like they always do I
can feel them dreaming up another excuse now !!!!! .
Monty .


Monty

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:59:40 +0100 and in article
<(E-Mail Removed)>, Monty said...
: What a great sunrise Zen's most brilliant news server is down yet
: again this morning Is Zen totally incapable of keeping their
: server on line for more than 14 days or what ! .

Shut the fuck up you cockroach of a pathetic excuse for a human being.
You're the biggest fucking scum i've encountered and I do hope after
you've thoroughly pissed Zen off enough they'll cancel your service.
You're an odious little sod who takes great pleasure in condemning
disabled people (i've seen the posts) and other people within society.

Now do us all a favour and fuck off, or invent some other pseudonym.

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CB

Well move ISP if it actually bothers you ....

On 8/8/03 11:59 am, in article (E-Mail Removed),
"Monty" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> What a great sunrise Zen's most brilliant news server is down yet
> again this morning Is Zen totally incapable of keeping their
> server on line for more than 14 days or what ! .
> This is getting really pathetic they either provide a news service or
> they don't and should not say that they do and then hardly ever
> maintain it or keep it working . Of course Zen support will come along
> with some flimsy excuse for the latest fiasco like they always do I
> can feel them dreaming up another excuse now !!!!! .
> Monty .

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 13:35:39 +0100, Graham in Melton
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Well move ISP if it actually bothers you ....
So do I also move to another district if my local council
only empty my rubbish bin when they feel like doing so !!!
I am paying for this service and running away is not the answer
the answer is for Zen to employ staff that are capable of doing what
they are paid for .
As other people besides myself have remarked they are quick enough at
taking money that part of the operation never goes off line .
Monty .

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:12:00 +0100, CB <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:59:40 +0100 and in article
><(E-Mail Removed)>, Monty said...
>: What a great sunrise Zen's most brilliant news server is down yet
>: again this morning Is Zen totally incapable of keeping their
>: server on line for more than 14 days or what ! .
>
>Shut the fuck up you cockroach of a pathetic excuse for a human being.
>You're the biggest fucking scum i've encountered and I do hope after
>you've thoroughly pissed Zen off enough they'll cancel your service.
>You're an odious little sod who takes great pleasure in condemning
>disabled people (i've seen the posts) and other people within society.

Mummy's little boy has learn't to swear
and to post things he would be to scared to say to someones face
>
>Now do us all a favour and fuck off,

you do us one and show us all how

Zen is rubbish and you know it

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:11:50 +0100, Big Don <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 12:12:00 +0100, CB <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:59:40 +0100 and in article
>><(E-Mail Removed)>, Monty said...
>>: What a great sunrise Zen's most brilliant news server is down yet
>>: again this morning Is Zen totally incapable of keeping their
>>: server on line for more than 14 days or what ! .
>>
>>Shut the fuck up you cockroach of a pathetic excuse for a human being.
>>You're the biggest fucking scum i've encountered and I do hope after
>>you've thoroughly pissed Zen off enough they'll cancel your service.
>>You're an odious little sod who takes great pleasure in condemning
>>disabled people (i've seen the posts) and other people within society.
>
>Mummy's little boy has learn't to swear
>and to post things he would be to scared to say to someones face
>>
>>Now do us all a favour and fuck off,
>
>you do us one and show us all how
>
>Zen is rubbish and you know it
Not to worry Don I take no notice or offence at what little children
who are only out of their cots have to say he is only here because
no other ISP will have him .
Incidently I have sent a complaint to his ISP .
Monty .

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 16:04:42 +0100 and in article
<(E-Mail Removed)>, Monty said...
: Not to worry Don I take no notice or offence at what little children
: who are only out of their cots have to say he is only here because
: no other ISP will have him .

Want me to supply URL from google of your Demon history, Chew face?

: Incidently I have sent a complaint to his ISP .

I don't know what good that will do as I don't use their servers for
usenet access. Here send one to Clara - (E-Mail Removed) - they'll tell
you where to fuck off.

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CB

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 16:46:25 +0100, CB <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 16:04:42 +0100 and in article
><(E-Mail Removed)>, Monty said...
>: Not to worry Don I take no notice or offence at what little children
>: who are only out of their cots have to say he is only here because
>: no other ISP will have him .
>
>Want me to supply URL from google of your Demon history, Chew face?
>
>: Incidently I have sent a complaint to his ISP .
>
>I don't know what good that will do as I don't use their servers for
>usenet access. Here send one to Clara - (E-Mail Removed) - they'll tell
>you where to fuck off.

What difference do you think that makes? Do you access Clara through
Zen?

You may well be right that no action will be taken, but naive if you
think that because you use clara for usenet that this would protect
you from Zens T&C.




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"Monty" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> What a great sunrise Zen's most brilliant news server is down yet
> again this morning Is Zen totally incapable of keeping their
> server on line for more than 14 days or what ! .
> This is getting really pathetic they either provide a news service or
> they don't and should not say that they do and then hardly ever
> maintain it or keep it working . Of course Zen support will come along
> with some flimsy excuse for the latest fiasco like they always do I
> can feel them dreaming up another excuse now !!!!! .
> Monty

When I joined Zen, they advertised the fact that they have newsgroup access
and unlimited downloads.
Over the past month, the news server has gone down at least once per week.
Personally, and I work it IT, I think that is the very embarassing for Zen.
Again, personally, I getting unhappy with the newsgroup service. I do hop
ethis resolves itself or I'll need to use another ISP.

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 17:19:07 +0100, CB <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>: >I don't know what good that will do as I don't use their servers for
>: >usenet access. Here send one to Clara - (E-Mail Removed) - they'll tell
>: >you where to fuck off.
>:
>: What difference do you think that makes?
>
>Every

Then that is a very arrogant and foolish stance.

>: Do you access Clara through
>: Zen?
>
>Yep.
>
>: You may well be right that no action will be taken,
>
>I am 100% right.

Not arguing on that issue - but they would be entitled to, if they
felt the need.

>: but naive if you
>: think that because you use clara for usenet that this would protect
>: you from Zens T&C.
>
>It would 100% protect me. You are utterly naive to think it wouldn't.
>I know for a *fact* any ISP cannot take action against a user without
>getting a court order from my usenet host to show the IP used to send
>the post in question originated from said users IP.

Do you even bother to read Zens T&C?

They state:

"All issues regarding USENET ‘news’ abuse issues originating from Zen
customers. "

Note, it does not mention through Zens usenet service - just usenet
abuse.

Are you trying to say that no one gets their accounts pulled without a
court order? What a strange notion.

>Only the most foolish and inexperienced of ISPs would take action.

An ISP can basically do what it wants to. That comment sounds like you
are throwing down a guantlet. What you gonna do if they chose to pull
your account? Sue them? Big mistake.

Lets make it clear. I am not stating that you have done enough for Zen
to react. However, prove me wrong. Start spamming newsgroups etc, and
see if Zen dont react on it. Some ISPs are pretty strict. Dont know if
Zen are one of those, but if they are, its a sure fire way to prove if
you are correct or not in your "court order" statement.

BTW. I am not some net nanny who fires off "abuse reports". I am
replying purely because you seem to be over confident on things I
think you are incorrect on.

>Clear?

Yes, many things have become crystal clear.





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