Substitute for Streams Environment

Hi -

I am stuck with a very old application, IFPS by Conshare, running on NT 4
Server. I need to move this app to Windows 2003 (or 2000) to be able to
retire the NT 4 Server. I couldn't get the service for the app to start, and
as it turns out it needs the Streams Environment protocol to run under NT4.

Is there an equivalent to Steams available to newer Windows operating
systems? I can't get help from Comshare, since they no longer exist.

Thanks.

Hello,

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third party issues, please consider other related channel, as we lack
resources on this software.

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You could load Virtual Server on the 2003 box (it's free from MS). Then run
a copy of NT4 inside Virtual Server as a virtual machine, then run IFPS on
the copy of NT4.

It will behave as if you have two OS's running on the same hardware at the
same time, but it will not bother anything on the 2003 OS and you can do
whatever else you want to do on the 2003 at the same time.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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"Baboon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:4D5742AB-D599-42D2-8665-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi -
>
> I am stuck with a very old application, IFPS by Conshare, running on NT 4
> Server. I need to move this app to Windows 2003 (or 2000) to be able to
> retire the NT 4 Server. I couldn't get the service for the app to start,
> and
> as it turns out it needs the Streams Environment protocol to run under
> NT4.
>
> Is there an equivalent to Steams available to newer Windows operating
> systems? I can't get help from Comshare, since they no longer exist.
>
> Thanks.

Hi -

Yes, we do have VMWare in our data center as an alternative, which is what
we are guessing we are going to have to use. We would like to get rid of NT4
altogether since it's not supported and because our Security people consider
it a risk. I think that if it's used as a server dedicated to this app and
if it's behind a well configured firewall, it would be fine.

By the way, I have been testing it on an NT4 VM in VS R2. :-)

Thanks.

"Phillip Windell" wrote:

> You could load Virtual Server on the 2003 box (it's free from MS). Then run
> a copy of NT4 inside Virtual Server as a virtual machine, then run IFPS on
> the copy of NT4.
>
> It will behave as if you have two OS's running on the same hardware at the
> same time, but it will not bother anything on the 2003 OS and you can do
> whatever else you want to do on the 2003 at the same time.
>
> --
> Phillip Windell
> www.wandtv.com
>
> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "Baboon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:4D5742AB-D599-42D2-8665-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hi -
> >
> > I am stuck with a very old application, IFPS by Conshare, running on NT 4
> > Server. I need to move this app to Windows 2003 (or 2000) to be able to
> > retire the NT 4 Server. I couldn't get the service for the app to start,
> > and
> > as it turns out it needs the Streams Environment protocol to run under
> > NT4.
> >
> > Is there an equivalent to Steams available to newer Windows operating
> > systems? I can't get help from Comshare, since they no longer exist.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
>
>

Hi -

With all due respect, this is a MS server networking issue. It's about a
specific protocol that was included in NT4, but not in later versions. It
just happens to be a 3rd party app that depends on the protocol. I didn't
ask for help with the specific app, just with the network protocol part.

Regards.

"Mike Luo [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Thank you for using newsgroup!
>
> Please note that this newsgroup is focused on Windows Server network
> issues. Regarding your query, it is related to third party software. For
> third party issues, please consider other related channel, as we lack
> resources on this software.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Mike Luo
>
> Microsoft Online Partner Support
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> ================================================== ===
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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>
>

Sounds like the way to go to me. I'm sure someday that App will be replaced
with something better and you won't have to worry about it anymore.


--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------

"Baboon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:408F6841-4B05-4291-9FB9-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi -
>
> Yes, we do have VMWare in our data center as an alternative, which is what
> we are guessing we are going to have to use. We would like to get rid of
> NT4
> altogether since it's not supported and because our Security people
> consider
> it a risk. I think that if it's used as a server dedicated to this app
> and
> if it's behind a well configured firewall, it would be fine.
>
> By the way, I have been testing it on an NT4 VM in VS R2. :-)
>
> Thanks.
>
> "Phillip Windell" wrote:
>
>> You could load Virtual Server on the 2003 box (it's free from MS). Then
>> run
>> a copy of NT4 inside Virtual Server as a virtual machine, then run IFPS
>> on
>> the copy of NT4.
>>
>> It will behave as if you have two OS's running on the same hardware at
>> the
>> same time, but it will not bother anything on the 2003 OS and you can do
>> whatever else you want to do on the 2003 at the same time.
>>
>> --
>> Phillip Windell
>> www.wandtv.com
>>
>> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
>> Microsoft,
>> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> "Baboon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:4D5742AB-D599-42D2-8665-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Hi -
>> >
>> > I am stuck with a very old application, IFPS by Conshare, running on NT
>> > 4
>> > Server. I need to move this app to Windows 2003 (or 2000) to be able
>> > to
>> > retire the NT 4 Server. I couldn't get the service for the app to
>> > start,
>> > and
>> > as it turns out it needs the Streams Environment protocol to run under
>> > NT4.
>> >
>> > Is there an equivalent to Steams available to newer Windows operating
>> > systems? I can't get help from Comshare, since they no longer exist.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>>
>>
>>

Hello,

Based on my research, Streams Environment can be installed into Windows
2000 Server, later versions of Windows will not support the Streams
environment. If you want to run the Application on Windows Server 2003, you
should upgrade the program.

To add the Streams environment, follow these steps:
1. Open the %SystemRoot% folder in Windows Explorer.
2. On the Tool menu, click Folder Options .
3. Click the View tab.
4. In the Advances Settings box, click Show hidden files and folders.
5. Click OK .
6. Edit the %SystemRoot%\Inf\Netstrm.inf file by using any text editor
(such as Notepad).

In the [ControlFlags] section, place a semicolon ( at the beginning of
the following line:
ExcludeFromSelect = MS_Streams
In the [Streams.ndi] section, change this line
Characteristics = 0x28 ; NCF_NOT_USER_REMOVABLE | NCF_HIDDEN
to this:
Characteristics = 0x00 ; NCF_USER_REMOVABLE
7. Save and close the Netstrm.inf file.
8. Right-click My Network Places on the desktop, and then click Properties

Thanks much! I will try that. If it works under Windows 2000, that would be
very helpful.

Cheers.

"Mike Luo [MSFT]" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Based on my research, Streams Environment can be installed into Windows
> 2000 Server, later versions of Windows will not support the Streams
> environment. If you want to run the Application on Windows Server 2003, you
> should upgrade the program.
>
> To add the Streams environment, follow these steps:
> 1. Open the %SystemRoot% folder in Windows Explorer.
> 2. On the Tool menu, click Folder Options .
> 3. Click the View tab.
> 4. In the Advances Settings box, click Show hidden files and folders.
> 5. Click OK .
> 6. Edit the %SystemRoot%\Inf\Netstrm.inf file by using any text editor
> (such as Notepad).
>
> In the [ControlFlags] section, place a semicolon ( at the beginning of
> the following line:
> ExcludeFromSelect = MS_Streams
> In the [Streams.ndi] section, change this line
> Characteristics = 0x28 ; NCF_NOT_USER_REMOVABLE | NCF_HIDDEN
> to this:
> Characteristics = 0x00 ; NCF_USER_REMOVABLE
> 7. Save and close the Netstrm.inf file.
> 8. Right-click My Network Places on the desktop, and then click Properties
> .
> 9. Right-click Local Area Connections , and then click Properties .
> 10. Click Install .
> 11. Click Protocol , and then click Add .
> 12. In the Network Protocol box, click Streams Environment .
> 13. Click OK .
> 14. Reboot the computer to complete the installation of the protocol.
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Mike Luo
>
> Microsoft Online Partner Support
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
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>

It is my pleasure to be of assistance.

If you need more help or have other concerns, just post back into the
newsgroup.

Have a nice day!

Mike Luo

Microsoft Online Partner Support
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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