strange networking problem with windows 98

I have 3 PCs hooked up to a hub, one is connecting to the internet via
modem, another is hooked into the hub, with internet connection sharing
activated. The third PC has the same setup as the second, except that I am
unable to get it logged onto the network. I can view the files and the
drives on that PC from the other PCs, but cannot acceess the internet or
even get prompted to login to the network. I've changed network cards,
formatted the drive, reinstalled, everything I can think of. Anyone ever
see this before?

www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm

Carey

"doug mccausland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:KvGIb.2893$(E-Mail Removed) nk.net...
> I have 3 PCs hooked up to a hub, one is connecting to the internet via
> modem, another is hooked into the hub, with internet connection sharing
> activated. The third PC has the same setup as the second, except that I
am
> unable to get it logged onto the network. I can view the files and the
> drives on that PC from the other PCs, but cannot acceess the internet or
> even get prompted to login to the network. I've changed network cards,
> formatted the drive, reinstalled, everything I can think of. Anyone ever
> see this before?
>
>
>

Get a router and discard the hub and remove ICS.
Routers are so cheap these days, why fool around with ICS and hubs.


"doug mccausland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:KvGIb.2893$(E-Mail Removed) nk.net...
> I have 3 PCs hooked up to a hub, one is connecting to the internet via
> modem, another is hooked into the hub, with internet connection sharing
> activated. The third PC has the same setup as the second, except that I
am
> unable to get it logged onto the network. I can view the files and the
> drives on that PC from the other PCs, but cannot acceess the internet or
> even get prompted to login to the network. I've changed network cards,
> formatted the drive, reinstalled, everything I can think of. Anyone ever
> see this before?
>
>
>

I can't being to tell you how right he is... ICS caused me some MAJOR
headaches, especially in the unexplained time-out department.

Do yourself a favor; avoid ICS at all costs.

"Len West" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:9VIIb.10769$(E-Mail Removed) ...
> Get a router and discard the hub and remove ICS.
> Routers are so cheap these days, why fool around with ICS and hubs.
>
>
> "doug mccausland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:KvGIb.2893$(E-Mail Removed) nk.net...
> > I have 3 PCs hooked up to a hub, one is connecting to the internet via
> > modem, another is hooked into the hub, with internet connection sharing
> > activated. The third PC has the same setup as the second, except that I
> am
> > unable to get it logged onto the network. I can view the files and the
> > drives on that PC from the other PCs, but cannot acceess the internet or
> > even get prompted to login to the network. I've changed network cards,
> > formatted the drive, reinstalled, everything I can think of. Anyone
ever
> > see this before?
> >
> >
> >
>
>

In article <KvGIb.2893$(E-Mail Removed) et>,
"doug mccausland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I have 3 PCs hooked up to a hub, one is connecting to the internet via
>modem, another is hooked into the hub, with internet connection sharing
>activated. The third PC has the same setup as the second, except that I am
>unable to get it logged onto the network. I can view the files and the
>drives on that PC from the other PCs, but cannot acceess the internet or
>even get prompted to login to the network. I've changed network cards,
>formatted the drive, reinstalled, everything I can think of. Anyone ever
>see this before?

Check the third PC's TCP/IP configuration with Winipcfg. As an ICS
client, it should show:

IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server

Internet access doesn't require logging into the network, but
accessing files and drives on other PCs does. On the third PC, click
Start | Log Off, which should cause a login prompt to appear. Don't
cancel the login -- enter a user name and, optionally, a password, and
click OK. If that makes network browsing work properly, the most
likely fix is to go to this registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
Network\Real Mode Net

and delete the value named "AutoLogon", as shown here:

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon

Please see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles for more
information:

"Unable to Browse the Network" When You Click Network Neighborhood
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;260214

No Windows or Network Logon Dialog Box at Startup
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=KB;en-us;141858
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm

Winograd is the expert, of course, but why fiddle with the registry and all
that stuff, when a $30 router will solve all the problems? You need to know
what you're doing there or else you will have some real problems.
I always feel that if a problem can be solved for $30, then you don't have
much of a problem.



"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> In article <KvGIb.2893$(E-Mail Removed) et>,
> "doug mccausland" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >I have 3 PCs hooked up to a hub, one is connecting to the internet via
> >modem, another is hooked into the hub, with internet connection sharing
> >activated. The third PC has the same setup as the second, except that I
am
> >unable to get it logged onto the network. I can view the files and the
> >drives on that PC from the other PCs, but cannot acceess the internet or
> >even get prompted to login to the network. I've changed network cards,
> >formatted the drive, reinstalled, everything I can think of. Anyone ever
> >see this before?
>
> Check the third PC's TCP/IP configuration with Winipcfg. As an ICS
> client, it should show:
>
> IP Address: 192.168.0.x (1<x<255)
> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway: 192.168.0.1
> DNS Server = 192.168.0.1 or your ISP's DNS server
>
> Internet access doesn't require logging into the network, but
> accessing files and drives on other PCs does. On the third PC, click
> Start | Log Off, which should cause a login prompt to appear. Don't
> cancel the login -- enter a user name and, optionally, a password, and
> click OK. If that makes network browsing work properly, the most
> likely fix is to go to this registry key:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\
> Network\Real Mode Net
>
> and delete the value named "AutoLogon", as shown here:
>
> http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon
>
> Please see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles for more
> information:
>
> "Unable to Browse the Network" When You Click Network Neighborhood
> http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;260214
>
> No Windows or Network Logon Dialog Box at Startup
> http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=KB;en-us;141858
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional - Windows Networking
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>
> Steve Winograd's Networking FAQ
> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm