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AOrlando
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      07-30-2004, 04:42 PM
I'm really not sure what the problem might be at this point. I have SBS 2003
that has been working fine for a few months on an internal lan. Then
suddenly after this weekend, I found myself unable to connect to the
website, ftp, or the machine in any capacity. I tried to ping the machine
from another box on the LAN and found that it timed out almost every time,
but now and then it would reply back a few times before going blank again.

The machine is running, and the server machine had full connection to the
internet and could load internet pages, ping other machines, etc. What I
found out over testing was that the machine will never reply back to a ping.
BUT, if I start an outbound ping on the SBS box (like ping to google.com)
and let the ping on the server run, I can then ping the server machine from
another computer.

So basically, the server machine will only reply to a ping request if it is
sending one out itself? But if the server machine has no internet activity,
it will not reply to a ping request.

I tried to change the internal IP address of the server, and reset all of
the networking equipment (router, switch, etc). Nothing has worked at this
point and all of the other machines on the network appear to work just fine.
How can I troubleshoot this further?

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CRIS HANNA \(SBS-MVP\)
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      07-30-2004, 04:48 PM
will the card ping itself???

This sounds like a card gone bad...have you tried a different card OR
different port on the switch

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"AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I'm really not sure what the problem might be at this point. I have SBS

2003
> that has been working fine for a few months on an internal lan. Then
> suddenly after this weekend, I found myself unable to connect to the
> website, ftp, or the machine in any capacity. I tried to ping the machine
> from another box on the LAN and found that it timed out almost every time,
> but now and then it would reply back a few times before going blank again.
>
> The machine is running, and the server machine had full connection to the
> internet and could load internet pages, ping other machines, etc. What I
> found out over testing was that the machine will never reply back to a

ping.
> BUT, if I start an outbound ping on the SBS box (like ping to google.com)
> and let the ping on the server run, I can then ping the server machine

from
> another computer.
>
> So basically, the server machine will only reply to a ping request if it

is
> sending one out itself? But if the server machine has no internet

activity,
> it will not reply to a ping request.
>
> I tried to change the internal IP address of the server, and reset all of
> the networking equipment (router, switch, etc). Nothing has worked at this
> point and all of the other machines on the network appear to work just

fine.
> How can I troubleshoot this further?
>
> --
> Reply to group. Thanks!
>
>



 
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AOrlando
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      07-30-2004, 04:54 PM
I have tried a different port on the switch.

By ping itself do you mean ping 127.0.0.1?? Or ping it's own internal IP
address.

"CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> will the card ping itself???
>
> This sounds like a card gone bad...have you tried a different card OR
> different port on the switch
>
> --
> Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> _____________________
> Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> everyone can share the information
> "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I'm really not sure what the problem might be at this point. I have SBS

> 2003
> > that has been working fine for a few months on an internal lan. Then
> > suddenly after this weekend, I found myself unable to connect to the
> > website, ftp, or the machine in any capacity. I tried to ping the

machine
> > from another box on the LAN and found that it timed out almost every

time,
> > but now and then it would reply back a few times before going blank

again.
> >
> > The machine is running, and the server machine had full connection to

the
> > internet and could load internet pages, ping other machines, etc. What I
> > found out over testing was that the machine will never reply back to a

> ping.
> > BUT, if I start an outbound ping on the SBS box (like ping to

google.com)
> > and let the ping on the server run, I can then ping the server machine

> from
> > another computer.
> >
> > So basically, the server machine will only reply to a ping request if it

> is
> > sending one out itself? But if the server machine has no internet

> activity,
> > it will not reply to a ping request.
> >
> > I tried to change the internal IP address of the server, and reset all

of
> > the networking equipment (router, switch, etc). Nothing has worked at

this
> > point and all of the other machines on the network appear to work just

> fine.
> > How can I troubleshoot this further?
> >
> > --
> > Reply to group. Thanks!
> >
> >

>
>



 
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CRIS HANNA \(SBS-MVP\)
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      07-30-2004, 05:00 PM
ping its own IP

--
Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
_____________________
Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
everyone can share the information
"AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have tried a different port on the switch.
>
> By ping itself do you mean ping 127.0.0.1?? Or ping it's own internal IP
> address.
>
> "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

in
> message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > will the card ping itself???
> >
> > This sounds like a card gone bad...have you tried a different card OR
> > different port on the switch
> >
> > --
> > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > _____________________
> > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> > everyone can share the information
> > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I'm really not sure what the problem might be at this point. I have

SBS
> > 2003
> > > that has been working fine for a few months on an internal lan. Then
> > > suddenly after this weekend, I found myself unable to connect to the
> > > website, ftp, or the machine in any capacity. I tried to ping the

> machine
> > > from another box on the LAN and found that it timed out almost every

> time,
> > > but now and then it would reply back a few times before going blank

> again.
> > >
> > > The machine is running, and the server machine had full connection to

> the
> > > internet and could load internet pages, ping other machines, etc. What

I
> > > found out over testing was that the machine will never reply back to a

> > ping.
> > > BUT, if I start an outbound ping on the SBS box (like ping to

> google.com)
> > > and let the ping on the server run, I can then ping the server machine

> > from
> > > another computer.
> > >
> > > So basically, the server machine will only reply to a ping request if

it
> > is
> > > sending one out itself? But if the server machine has no internet

> > activity,
> > > it will not reply to a ping request.
> > >
> > > I tried to change the internal IP address of the server, and reset all

> of
> > > the networking equipment (router, switch, etc). Nothing has worked at

> this
> > > point and all of the other machines on the network appear to work just

> > fine.
> > > How can I troubleshoot this further?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Reply to group. Thanks!
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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AOrlando
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      07-30-2004, 05:21 PM
The internal server card is 192.168.1.18

I can ping this address from inside the server - so I am pinging its own
card.

Is there anything else I can try?


"CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> ping its own IP
>
> --
> Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> _____________________
> Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> everyone can share the information
> "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I have tried a different port on the switch.
> >
> > By ping itself do you mean ping 127.0.0.1?? Or ping it's own internal IP
> > address.
> >
> > "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)>

wrote
> in
> > message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > will the card ping itself???
> > >
> > > This sounds like a card gone bad...have you tried a different card OR
> > > different port on the switch
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > > _____________________
> > > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> > > everyone can share the information
> > > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > I'm really not sure what the problem might be at this point. I have

> SBS
> > > 2003
> > > > that has been working fine for a few months on an internal lan. Then
> > > > suddenly after this weekend, I found myself unable to connect to the
> > > > website, ftp, or the machine in any capacity. I tried to ping the

> > machine
> > > > from another box on the LAN and found that it timed out almost every

> > time,
> > > > but now and then it would reply back a few times before going blank

> > again.
> > > >
> > > > The machine is running, and the server machine had full connection

to
> > the
> > > > internet and could load internet pages, ping other machines, etc.

What
> I
> > > > found out over testing was that the machine will never reply back to

a
> > > ping.
> > > > BUT, if I start an outbound ping on the SBS box (like ping to

> > google.com)
> > > > and let the ping on the server run, I can then ping the server

machine
> > > from
> > > > another computer.
> > > >
> > > > So basically, the server machine will only reply to a ping request

if
> it
> > > is
> > > > sending one out itself? But if the server machine has no internet
> > > activity,
> > > > it will not reply to a ping request.
> > > >
> > > > I tried to change the internal IP address of the server, and reset

all
> > of
> > > > the networking equipment (router, switch, etc). Nothing has worked

at
> > this
> > > > point and all of the other machines on the network appear to work

just
> > > fine.
> > > > How can I troubleshoot this further?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Reply to group. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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CRIS HANNA \(SBS-MVP\)
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      07-30-2004, 05:27 PM
do you have another card you can try...give it the same address

--
Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
_____________________
Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
everyone can share the information
"AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> The internal server card is 192.168.1.18
>
> I can ping this address from inside the server - so I am pinging its own
> card.
>
> Is there anything else I can try?
>
>
> "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

in
> message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > ping its own IP
> >
> > --
> > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > _____________________
> > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> > everyone can share the information
> > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > I have tried a different port on the switch.
> > >
> > > By ping itself do you mean ping 127.0.0.1?? Or ping it's own internal

IP
> > > address.
> > >
> > > "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)>

> wrote
> > in
> > > message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > will the card ping itself???
> > > >
> > > > This sounds like a card gone bad...have you tried a different card

OR
> > > > different port on the switch
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > > > _____________________
> > > > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> > > > everyone can share the information
> > > > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > I'm really not sure what the problem might be at this point. I

have
> > SBS
> > > > 2003
> > > > > that has been working fine for a few months on an internal lan.

Then
> > > > > suddenly after this weekend, I found myself unable to connect to

the
> > > > > website, ftp, or the machine in any capacity. I tried to ping the
> > > machine
> > > > > from another box on the LAN and found that it timed out almost

every
> > > time,
> > > > > but now and then it would reply back a few times before going

blank
> > > again.
> > > > >
> > > > > The machine is running, and the server machine had full connection

> to
> > > the
> > > > > internet and could load internet pages, ping other machines, etc.

> What
> > I
> > > > > found out over testing was that the machine will never reply back

to
> a
> > > > ping.
> > > > > BUT, if I start an outbound ping on the SBS box (like ping to
> > > google.com)
> > > > > and let the ping on the server run, I can then ping the server

> machine
> > > > from
> > > > > another computer.
> > > > >
> > > > > So basically, the server machine will only reply to a ping request

> if
> > it
> > > > is
> > > > > sending one out itself? But if the server machine has no internet
> > > > activity,
> > > > > it will not reply to a ping request.
> > > > >
> > > > > I tried to change the internal IP address of the server, and reset

> all
> > > of
> > > > > the networking equipment (router, switch, etc). Nothing has worked

> at
> > > this
> > > > > point and all of the other machines on the network appear to work

> just
> > > > fine.
> > > > > How can I troubleshoot this further?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Reply to group. Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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AOrlando
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      07-30-2004, 05:52 PM
Sadly not on hand - the network card is built into the MB itself. Just
looking at the list of hardware that comes up after POST, the networking
card is listed and shown as working. But obviously it could still be
defective. I may have to buy a network card to test, but in the meantime is
there no other setting software side that may cause this behavior?



"CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> do you have another card you can try...give it the same address
>
> --
> Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> _____________________
> Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> everyone can share the information
> "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > The internal server card is 192.168.1.18
> >
> > I can ping this address from inside the server - so I am pinging its own
> > card.
> >
> > Is there anything else I can try?
> >
> >
> > "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)>

wrote
> in
> > message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > ping its own IP
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > > _____________________
> > > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> > > everyone can share the information
> > > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > I have tried a different port on the switch.
> > > >
> > > > By ping itself do you mean ping 127.0.0.1?? Or ping it's own

internal
> IP
> > > > address.
> > > >
> > > > "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)>

> > wrote
> > > in
> > > > message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > will the card ping itself???
> > > > >
> > > > > This sounds like a card gone bad...have you tried a different card

> OR
> > > > > different port on the switch
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > > > > _____________________
> > > > > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so

that
> > > > > everyone can share the information
> > > > > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > I'm really not sure what the problem might be at this point. I

> have
> > > SBS
> > > > > 2003
> > > > > > that has been working fine for a few months on an internal lan.

> Then
> > > > > > suddenly after this weekend, I found myself unable to connect to

> the
> > > > > > website, ftp, or the machine in any capacity. I tried to ping

the
> > > > machine
> > > > > > from another box on the LAN and found that it timed out almost

> every
> > > > time,
> > > > > > but now and then it would reply back a few times before going

> blank
> > > > again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The machine is running, and the server machine had full

connection
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > internet and could load internet pages, ping other machines,

etc.
> > What
> > > I
> > > > > > found out over testing was that the machine will never reply

back
> to
> > a
> > > > > ping.
> > > > > > BUT, if I start an outbound ping on the SBS box (like ping to
> > > > google.com)
> > > > > > and let the ping on the server run, I can then ping the server

> > machine
> > > > > from
> > > > > > another computer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So basically, the server machine will only reply to a ping

request
> > if
> > > it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > sending one out itself? But if the server machine has no

internet
> > > > > activity,
> > > > > > it will not reply to a ping request.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tried to change the internal IP address of the server, and

reset
> > all
> > > > of
> > > > > > the networking equipment (router, switch, etc). Nothing has

worked
> > at
> > > > this
> > > > > > point and all of the other machines on the network appear to

work
> > just
> > > > > fine.
> > > > > > How can I troubleshoot this further?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Reply to group. Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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AOrlando
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      07-30-2004, 05:56 PM
I am now noticing something even stranger than before:
When the server is booting up (loading network connections, etc.) it will
respond to ping just fine.
Once the server completes the load and I log in and use it a little bit, the
ping replies stop.



"AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Sadly not on hand - the network card is built into the MB itself. Just
> looking at the list of hardware that comes up after POST, the networking
> card is listed and shown as working. But obviously it could still be
> defective. I may have to buy a network card to test, but in the meantime

is
> there no other setting software side that may cause this behavior?
>
>
>
> "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote

in
> message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > do you have another card you can try...give it the same address
> >
> > --
> > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > _____________________
> > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> > everyone can share the information
> > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > The internal server card is 192.168.1.18
> > >
> > > I can ping this address from inside the server - so I am pinging its

own
> > > card.
> > >
> > > Is there anything else I can try?
> > >
> > >
> > > "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)>

> wrote
> > in
> > > message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > ping its own IP
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > > > _____________________
> > > > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> > > > everyone can share the information
> > > > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > I have tried a different port on the switch.
> > > > >
> > > > > By ping itself do you mean ping 127.0.0.1?? Or ping it's own

> internal
> > IP
> > > > > address.
> > > > >
> > > > > "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)"

<(E-Mail Removed)>
> > > wrote
> > > > in
> > > > > message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > will the card ping itself???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This sounds like a card gone bad...have you tried a different

card
> > OR
> > > > > > different port on the switch
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > > > > > _____________________
> > > > > > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so

> that
> > > > > > everyone can share the information
> > > > > > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > > I'm really not sure what the problem might be at this point. I

> > have
> > > > SBS
> > > > > > 2003
> > > > > > > that has been working fine for a few months on an internal

lan.
> > Then
> > > > > > > suddenly after this weekend, I found myself unable to connect

to
> > the
> > > > > > > website, ftp, or the machine in any capacity. I tried to ping

> the
> > > > > machine
> > > > > > > from another box on the LAN and found that it timed out almost

> > every
> > > > > time,
> > > > > > > but now and then it would reply back a few times before going

> > blank
> > > > > again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The machine is running, and the server machine had full

> connection
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > internet and could load internet pages, ping other machines,

> etc.
> > > What
> > > > I
> > > > > > > found out over testing was that the machine will never reply

> back
> > to
> > > a
> > > > > > ping.
> > > > > > > BUT, if I start an outbound ping on the SBS box (like ping to
> > > > > google.com)
> > > > > > > and let the ping on the server run, I can then ping the server
> > > machine
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > another computer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So basically, the server machine will only reply to a ping

> request
> > > if
> > > > it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > sending one out itself? But if the server machine has no

> internet
> > > > > > activity,
> > > > > > > it will not reply to a ping request.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I tried to change the internal IP address of the server, and

> reset
> > > all
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the networking equipment (router, switch, etc). Nothing has

> worked
> > > at
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > point and all of the other machines on the network appear to

> work
> > > just
> > > > > > fine.
> > > > > > > How can I troubleshoot this further?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Reply to group. Thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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CRIS HANNA \(SBS-MVP\)
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      07-30-2004, 06:02 PM
How much ram in the server???
I would consider testing another card in there...remember to disable the
internal card when you do this

--
Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
_____________________
Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
everyone can share the information
"AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I am now noticing something even stranger than before:
> When the server is booting up (loading network connections, etc.) it will
> respond to ping just fine.
> Once the server completes the load and I log in and use it a little bit,

the
> ping replies stop.
>
>
>
> "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Sadly not on hand - the network card is built into the MB itself. Just
> > looking at the list of hardware that comes up after POST, the networking
> > card is listed and shown as working. But obviously it could still be
> > defective. I may have to buy a network card to test, but in the meantime

> is
> > there no other setting software side that may cause this behavior?
> >
> >
> >
> > "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)>

wrote
> in
> > message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > do you have another card you can try...give it the same address
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > > _____________________
> > > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> > > everyone can share the information
> > > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > The internal server card is 192.168.1.18
> > > >
> > > > I can ping this address from inside the server - so I am pinging its

> own
> > > > card.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything else I can try?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)>

> > wrote
> > > in
> > > > message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > ping its own IP
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > > > > _____________________
> > > > > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so

that
> > > > > everyone can share the information
> > > > > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > I have tried a different port on the switch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By ping itself do you mean ping 127.0.0.1?? Or ping it's own

> > internal
> > > IP
> > > > > > address.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)"

> <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > > > wrote
> > > > > in
> > > > > > message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > > will the card ping itself???
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This sounds like a card gone bad...have you tried a different

> card
> > > OR
> > > > > > > different port on the switch
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > > > > > > _____________________
> > > > > > > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me,

so
> > that
> > > > > > > everyone can share the information
> > > > > > > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > > > I'm really not sure what the problem might be at this point.

I
> > > have
> > > > > SBS
> > > > > > > 2003
> > > > > > > > that has been working fine for a few months on an internal

> lan.
> > > Then
> > > > > > > > suddenly after this weekend, I found myself unable to

connect
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > > > website, ftp, or the machine in any capacity. I tried to

ping
> > the
> > > > > > machine
> > > > > > > > from another box on the LAN and found that it timed out

almost
> > > every
> > > > > > time,
> > > > > > > > but now and then it would reply back a few times before

going
> > > blank
> > > > > > again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The machine is running, and the server machine had full

> > connection
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > internet and could load internet pages, ping other machines,

> > etc.
> > > > What
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > found out over testing was that the machine will never reply

> > back
> > > to
> > > > a
> > > > > > > ping.
> > > > > > > > BUT, if I start an outbound ping on the SBS box (like ping

to
> > > > > > google.com)
> > > > > > > > and let the ping on the server run, I can then ping the

server
> > > > machine
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > another computer.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So basically, the server machine will only reply to a ping

> > request
> > > > if
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > sending one out itself? But if the server machine has no

> > internet
> > > > > > > activity,
> > > > > > > > it will not reply to a ping request.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I tried to change the internal IP address of the server, and

> > reset
> > > > all
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the networking equipment (router, switch, etc). Nothing has

> > worked
> > > > at
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > point and all of the other machines on the network appear to

> > work
> > > > just
> > > > > > > fine.
> > > > > > > > How can I troubleshoot this further?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Reply to group. Thanks!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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      07-30-2004, 10:57 PM
Thank you very much. Unfortunately for me, it is the network card.

I had to shut down. Install the new card, reboot.
Install new card drivers, configure it. Remove the old card from device
manager. Setup IP on the new card. Shut down.
Remove the old card.
On reboot, tested and indeed the ping and all features once again work with
the new network card.

I think that lightning is to blame, we had a storm. And I guess it fried the
built in NIC in the motherboard.


"CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> How much ram in the server???
> I would consider testing another card in there...remember to disable the
> internal card when you do this
>
> --
> Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> _____________________
> Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> everyone can share the information
> "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > I am now noticing something even stranger than before:
> > When the server is booting up (loading network connections, etc.) it

will
> > respond to ping just fine.
> > Once the server completes the load and I log in and use it a little bit,

> the
> > ping replies stop.
> >
> >
> >
> > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Sadly not on hand - the network card is built into the MB itself. Just
> > > looking at the list of hardware that comes up after POST, the

networking
> > > card is listed and shown as working. But obviously it could still be
> > > defective. I may have to buy a network card to test, but in the

meantime
> > is
> > > there no other setting software side that may cause this behavior?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)" <(E-Mail Removed)>

> wrote
> > in
> > > message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > do you have another card you can try...give it the same address
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > > > _____________________
> > > > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so that
> > > > everyone can share the information
> > > > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > The internal server card is 192.168.1.18
> > > > >
> > > > > I can ping this address from inside the server - so I am pinging

its
> > own
> > > > > card.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there anything else I can try?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)"

<(E-Mail Removed)>
> > > wrote
> > > > in
> > > > > message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > ping its own IP
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > > > > > _____________________
> > > > > > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me, so

> that
> > > > > > everyone can share the information
> > > > > > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > > I have tried a different port on the switch.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > By ping itself do you mean ping 127.0.0.1?? Or ping it's own
> > > internal
> > > > IP
> > > > > > > address.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "CRIS HANNA (SBS-MVP)"

> > <(E-Mail Removed)>
> > > > > wrote
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > message news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > > > will the card ping itself???
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This sounds like a card gone bad...have you tried a

different
> > card
> > > > OR
> > > > > > > > different port on the switch
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Cris Hanna (SBS-MVP)
> > > > > > > > _____________________
> > > > > > > > Please only respond in the Newsgroup and not directly to me,

> so
> > > that
> > > > > > > > everyone can share the information
> > > > > > > > "AOrlando" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > > > > > > > I'm really not sure what the problem might be at this

point.
> I
> > > > have
> > > > > > SBS
> > > > > > > > 2003
> > > > > > > > > that has been working fine for a few months on an internal

> > lan.
> > > > Then
> > > > > > > > > suddenly after this weekend, I found myself unable to

> connect
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > website, ftp, or the machine in any capacity. I tried to

> ping
> > > the
> > > > > > > machine
> > > > > > > > > from another box on the LAN and found that it timed out

> almost
> > > > every
> > > > > > > time,
> > > > > > > > > but now and then it would reply back a few times before

> going
> > > > blank
> > > > > > > again.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The machine is running, and the server machine had full
> > > connection
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > internet and could load internet pages, ping other

machines,
> > > etc.
> > > > > What
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > found out over testing was that the machine will never

reply
> > > back
> > > > to
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > ping.
> > > > > > > > > BUT, if I start an outbound ping on the SBS box (like ping

> to
> > > > > > > google.com)
> > > > > > > > > and let the ping on the server run, I can then ping the

> server
> > > > > machine
> > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > another computer.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So basically, the server machine will only reply to a ping
> > > request
> > > > > if
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > sending one out itself? But if the server machine has no
> > > internet
> > > > > > > > activity,
> > > > > > > > > it will not reply to a ping request.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I tried to change the internal IP address of the server,

and
> > > reset
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the networking equipment (router, switch, etc). Nothing

has
> > > worked
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > point and all of the other machines on the network appear

to
> > > work
> > > > > just
> > > > > > > > fine.
> > > > > > > > > How can I troubleshoot this further?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Reply to group. Thanks!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
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