Startnetworking without reboot

I hope this is possible, as I have already spent a lot of time trying to
get it to work.

MY SETUP: A tower running XPPro and a laptop running ME. I have created
a workgroup, and successfully networked the two computers through an old
10T8 hub. I am only using TCP/IP.

WHAT WORKS: If I have the laptop Ethernet card plugged in to the hub
when I boot it, everything works file, and I can use printers and share
files on the XP machine.

PROBLEM: I would like to be able to have the laptop already running, and
attach it to the network. Unfortunately, if I do that I get the "Unable
to browse network" error when I go to 'Entire network'. 'net view'
gives me a 6118 error. I can ping my XP box from the laptop in this
case. Strangely, I can even access the shared resources on the ME
laptop _from_ the XP machine (but not the other way around.)

Is there any way to get the ME machine to connect to the network after
windows is already running. Is my behavior normal, or do have have a
problem.

Thanx in advance, Jake.

Log off and then log back on.

Carey

"Jake Montgomery" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:RqqdnUu8MP7oR-vcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>I hope this is possible, as I have already spent a lot of time trying to
>get it to work.
>
> MY SETUP: A tower running XPPro and a laptop running ME. I have created a
> workgroup, and successfully networked the two computers through an old
> 10T8 hub. I am only using TCP/IP.
>
> WHAT WORKS: If I have the laptop Ethernet card plugged in to the hub when
> I boot it, everything works file, and I can use printers and share files
> on the XP machine.
>
> PROBLEM: I would like to be able to have the laptop already running, and
> attach it to the network. Unfortunately, if I do that I get the "Unable
> to browse network" error when I go to 'Entire network'. 'net view' gives
> me a 6118 error. I can ping my XP box from the laptop in this case.
> Strangely, I can even access the shared resources on the ME laptop _from_
> the XP machine (but not the other way around.)
>
> Is there any way to get the ME machine to connect to the network after
> windows is already running. Is my behavior normal, or do have have a
> problem.
>
> Thanx in advance, Jake.

In article <RqqdnUu8MP7oR-vcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)>, Jake Montgomery
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I hope this is possible, as I have already spent a lot of time trying to
>get it to work.
>
>MY SETUP: A tower running XPPro and a laptop running ME. I have created
>a workgroup, and successfully networked the two computers through an old
>10T8 hub. I am only using TCP/IP.
>
>WHAT WORKS: If I have the laptop Ethernet card plugged in to the hub
>when I boot it, everything works file, and I can use printers and share
>files on the XP machine.
>
>PROBLEM: I would like to be able to have the laptop already running, and
>attach it to the network. Unfortunately, if I do that I get the "Unable
>to browse network" error when I go to 'Entire network'. 'net view'
>gives me a 6118 error. I can ping my XP box from the laptop in this
>case. Strangely, I can even access the shared resources on the ME
>laptop _from_ the XP machine (but not the other way around.)
>
>Is there any way to get the ME machine to connect to the network after
>windows is already running. Is my behavior normal, or do have have a
>problem.
>
>Thanx in advance, Jake.

It can take up to 15 minutes after a computer connects to the network
before network browsing works. During that time, you should be able
to access another computer by typing the other computer's name in the
Start | Run box preceded by two backslash characters:

\\computer
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Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:

> In article <RqqdnUu8MP7oR-vcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)>, Jake Montgomery
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I hope this is possible, as I have already spent a lot of time trying to
>>get it to work.
>
[...]

>>
>>PROBLEM: I would like to be able to have the laptop already running, and
>>attach it to the network. Unfortunately, if I do that I get the "Unable
>>to browse network" error when I go to 'Entire network'. 'net view'
>>gives me a 6118 error. I can ping my XP box from the laptop in this
>>case. Strangely, I can even access the shared resources on the ME
>>laptop _from_ the XP machine (but not the other way around.)
>>
>>Is there any way to get the ME machine to connect to the network after
>>windows is already running. Is my behavior normal, or do have have a
>>problem.
>>
>>Thanx in advance, Jake.
>
>
> It can take up to 15 minutes after a computer connects to the network
> before network browsing works. During that time, you should be able
> to access another computer by typing the other computer's name in the
> Start | Run box preceded by two backslash characters:
>
> \\computer

I have tried this, and I get a 'cannot find' message. As mentioned
earlier 'net view' also can not see anything.

I must admit that I misspoke when I said that i can see the laptop from
the XP machine. That was a different scenario. I can see the _network_
from the XP machine, but the laptop is not on the network.

Is there any way to 'restart' networking services on the ME machine
after is is already running?

Is there anything I can do on the XP machine to make this work?

Thanx, Jake

[Sorry about the top posting]

I would rather not log off, and back on. But for some reason, even that
does not restore my network connection. I must have the Ethernet cable
connected when I first boot the machine.

As noted, I can 'ping' the XP machine, and use other services. I just
can not access the network (file and printer sharing) in any way if I
connect after booting.

Thanx,
Jake

Carey Holzman wrote:

> Log off and then log back on.
>
> Carey
>
> "Jake Montgomery" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:RqqdnUu8MP7oR-vcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>I hope this is possible, as I have already spent a lot of time trying to
>>get it to work.
>>
>>MY SETUP: A tower running XPPro and a laptop running ME. I have created a
>>workgroup, and successfully networked the two computers through an old
>>10T8 hub. I am only using TCP/IP.
>>
>>WHAT WORKS: If I have the laptop Ethernet card plugged in to the hub when
>>I boot it, everything works file, and I can use printers and share files
>>on the XP machine.
>>
>>PROBLEM: I would like to be able to have the laptop already running, and
>>attach it to the network. Unfortunately, if I do that I get the "Unable
>>to browse network" error when I go to 'Entire network'. 'net view' gives
>>me a 6118 error. I can ping my XP box from the laptop in this case.
>>Strangely, I can even access the shared resources on the ME laptop _from_
>>the XP machine (but not the other way around.)
>>
>>Is there any way to get the ME machine to connect to the network after
>>windows is already running. Is my behavior normal, or do have have a
>>problem.
>>
>>Thanx in advance, Jake.
>
>
>

Do you have any kind of firewall on the ME box? - if so, then disable it and
see if that helps

--
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"Jake Montgomery" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3ridnWyxkuiy3OTcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote:
>
>> In article <RqqdnUu8MP7oR-vcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)>, Jake Montgomery
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>>>I hope this is possible, as I have already spent a lot of time trying to
>>>get it to work.
>>
> [...]
>
>>>
>>>PROBLEM: I would like to be able to have the laptop already running, and
>>>attach it to the network. Unfortunately, if I do that I get the "Unable
>>>to browse network" error when I go to 'Entire network'. 'net view' gives
>>>me a 6118 error. I can ping my XP box from the laptop in this case.
>>>Strangely, I can even access the shared resources on the ME laptop _from_
>>>the XP machine (but not the other way around.)
>>>
>>>Is there any way to get the ME machine to connect to the network after
>>>windows is already running. Is my behavior normal, or do have have a
>>>problem.
>>>
>>>Thanx in advance, Jake.
>>
>>
>> It can take up to 15 minutes after a computer connects to the network
>> before network browsing works. During that time, you should be able
>> to access another computer by typing the other computer's name in the
>> Start | Run box preceded by two backslash characters: \\computer
>
> I have tried this, and I get a 'cannot find' message. As mentioned
> earlier 'net view' also can not see anything.
>
> I must admit that I misspoke when I said that i can see the laptop from
> the XP machine. That was a different scenario. I can see the _network_
> from the XP machine, but the laptop is not on the network.
>
> Is there any way to 'restart' networking services on the ME machine after
> is is already running?
>
> Is there anything I can do on the XP machine to make this work?
>
> Thanx, Jake
>

Noel Paton wrote:

> Do you have any kind of firewall on the ME box? - if so, then disable it and
> see if that helps
>


Noel,

You got it! It was ZoneAlarm. I had checked the logs and it _said_
it had not blocked anything, and yet when I shut it down, everything
works fine. Now I need to go to the ZoneAlarm group and find out how to
fix it. Many Thanx.

Jake.

[P.S.] I dont know why my newsgroup program did not include the entire
post in this reply.

Glad I was able to point you in the right direction - good luck!

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3)
Gecko/20040910
Not familiar with that one - what is it??


--
Noel Paton (MS-MVP 2002-2005, Windows)

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
http://www.btinternet.com/~winnoel/millsrpch.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6oztj

Please read http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm on how to post messages to NG's

"Jake Montgomery" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:2eidnVNqA8fKIeTcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Noel Paton wrote:
>
>> Do you have any kind of firewall on the ME box? - if so, then disable it
>> and see if that helps
>>
>
>
> Noel,
>
> You got it! It was ZoneAlarm. I had checked the logs and it _said_ it
> had not blocked anything, and yet when I shut it down, everything works
> fine. Now I need to go to the ZoneAlarm group and find out how to fix it.
> Many Thanx.
>
> Jake.
>
> [P.S.] I dont know why my newsgroup program did not include the entire
> post in this reply.

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Noel Paton says...

> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3)
> Gecko/20040910
> Not familiar with that one - what is it??

Rev:1.7.3? I would say that it is the Mail & News client in a full Mozilla
install. When I open Mozilla, and go to Help > About, I see this:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040910

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint

In article <2eidnVNqA8fKIeTcRVn-(E-Mail Removed)>, Jake Montgomery says...

> [P.S.] I dont know why my newsgroup program did not include the entire
> post in this reply.

Noel follows the MSFT custom of top posting, putting his signature between
his reply and the quote of the previous message. It looks like he is using
MS Outlook Express with the MS Windows XP SP2, which repaired a broken
feature of MSOE; it adds a proper signature separator, a "dash-dash-space-
endline" sequence.

You are using the Mail & News client of Mozilla 1.7.3. This, unlike MSOE, is
not broken, and follows the standard of stripping all parts of a quoted
message after the signature separator. Your client is working as designed,
which plays havoc when a top posted message, with the signature placed
between the reply and the quote, has a standards compliant signature
separator. You will not cure top posting; all you can do is the extra work
of cutting and pasting the previous post to fix the problem. Or ignore the
problem, and the trimmed quotation.

--
Norman
~Win dain a lotica, En vai tu ri, Si lo ta
~Fin dein a loluca, En dragu a sei lain
~Vi fa-ru les shutai am, En riga-lint