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stephen
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      07-26-2007, 12:36 PM
Isn't really annoying when you setup your new domain and the first
time you login to the email account there's spam waiting for you! And
I'm getting about 20 a day, mostly about the same thing - Viagra!

I guess it's from the person who owned the domain previously, the one
I transferred it from. But I suppose it's my problem now?

 
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      07-26-2007, 01:32 PM
On 26 Jul, 12:36, stephen <m0604...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Isn't really annoying when you setup your new domain and the first
> time you login to the email account there's spam waiting for you! And
> I'm getting about 20 a day, mostly about the same thing - Viagra!
>
> I guess it's from the person who owned the domain previously, the one
> I transferred it from. But I suppose it's my problem now?


You would have to be using the same address for that to happen ?

i.e. (E-Mail Removed) etc

Or one of those cheepo domian providers where you only get mail from
(E-Mail Removed) and you cant specify a address

 
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      07-26-2007, 01:49 PM


stephen wrote:

> Isn't really annoying when you setup your new domain and the first
> time you login to the email account there's spam waiting for you! And
> I'm getting about 20 a day, mostly about the same thing - Viagra!
>
> I guess it's from the person who owned the domain previously, the one
> I transferred it from. But I suppose it's my problem now?


Yes. You haven't had any offers to sell you pirated Adobe software or pills to
enlarge your manhood then ?

What never fails to astonish me is that young kids presumably receive this
garbage too. I doubt that emails such as 'hot redhead wants it in all holes'
(today's special) is really the best kind of sex education.

Graham


 
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George Weston
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      07-26-2007, 02:05 PM

"Eeyore" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
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>
> stephen wrote:
>
>> Isn't really annoying when you setup your new domain and the first
>> time you login to the email account there's spam waiting for you! And
>> I'm getting about 20 a day, mostly about the same thing - Viagra!
>>
>> I guess it's from the person who owned the domain previously, the one
>> I transferred it from. But I suppose it's my problem now?

>
> Yes. You haven't had any offers to sell you pirated Adobe software or
> pills to
> enlarge your manhood then ?
>
> What never fails to astonish me is that young kids presumably receive this
> garbage too. I doubt that emails such as 'hot redhead wants it in all
> holes'
> (today's special) is really the best kind of sex education.
>
> Graham


Maybe - I think I used to know her...
;-)

George


 
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Gizmo.
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      07-26-2007, 03:37 PM

"George Weston" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Eeyore" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>
>> stephen wrote:
>>
>>> Isn't really annoying when you setup your new domain and the first
>>> time you login to the email account there's spam waiting for you! And
>>> I'm getting about 20 a day, mostly about the same thing - Viagra!
>>>
>>> I guess it's from the person who owned the domain previously, the one
>>> I transferred it from. But I suppose it's my problem now?

>>
>> Yes. You haven't had any offers to sell you pirated Adobe software or
>> pills to
>> enlarge your manhood then ?
>>
>> What never fails to astonish me is that young kids presumably receive
>> this
>> garbage too. I doubt that emails such as 'hot redhead wants it in all
>> holes'
>> (today's special) is really the best kind of sex education.
>>
>> Graham

>
> Maybe - I think I used to know her...


Dad, is that you ? ;o)


 
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Colin Wilson
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      07-26-2007, 10:45 PM
> Isn't really annoying when you setup your new domain and the first
> time you login to the email account there's spam waiting for you! And
> I'm getting about 20 a day, mostly about the same thing - Viagra!


Sadly, dictionary attacks are commonplace - they'll just spam shite to
a random name at any given domain name. The thing is, they're not
using their own hardware or bandwidth to do this, so they sent out as
much as they possibly can.

I've had a spate of stuff to random names at two of my domains
recently - a common trigger seems to be when you renew them they're
targetted for more crap than normal... that's how it seems to work in
my experience over the last two years anyway :-} (i've owned the
domains for years, but it seems particularly prevalent of late)
 
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stephen
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      07-31-2007, 02:30 PM
On Jul 26, 10:45 pm, Colin Wilson
<REMOVEEVERYTHINGBUTnewsgr...@phoenixbbsZEROSPAM.c o.uk> wrote:
> > Isn't really annoying when you setup your new domain and the first
> > time you login to the email account there's spam waiting for you! And
> > I'm getting about 20 a day, mostly about the same thing - Viagra!

>
> Sadly, dictionary attacks are commonplace - they'll just spam shite to
> a random name at any given domain name. The thing is, they're not
> using their own hardware or bandwidth to do this, so they sent out as
> much as they possibly can.
>
> I've had a spate of stuff to random names at two of my domains
> recently - a common trigger seems to be when you renew them they're
> targetted for more crap than normal... that's how it seems to work in
> my experience over the last two years anyway :-} (i've owned the
> domains for years, but it seems particularly prevalent of late)


Do you think it's best to bounce spam or just accept it & flag it as
junk?
I was thinking the sender's spam system might be sophisticated enough
take a bounce as an invalid email address & remove the address from
its hitlist. But the spammers probably don't care enough to go to that
trouble. Just keep churning it out and ignore anything that comes
back.

 
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JohnW
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      07-31-2007, 04:51 PM
stephen, in article <1185888616.704547.160240@
22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, says...

>Do you think it's best to bounce spam or just accept it & flag it as
>junk?


Just black-hole it unread, on your server if possible, so you
never even see it. Bouncing only clogs up networks and is
seldom going to get back to the real system that originated
it.

>I was thinking the sender's spam system might be sophisticated enough
>take a bounce as an invalid email address & remove the address from
>its hitlist.


No way... Why should they bother editing their "shotgun"
mailing list when any response would be via something on the
mail page rather than via a reply to a traceable envelope
address. Most are up-front paid-for (by the million...)
advertising with no response possible.

>But the spammers probably don't care enough to go to that
>trouble. Just keep churning it out and ignore anything that comes
>back.


Correct, and the "from" and "reply to" address is most likely
forged so bounces and anything else that comes back never goes
anywhere near them.

--
JohnW.
Replace the obvious with co.uk in 2 places to mail me.
 
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Paul Cupis
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      07-31-2007, 07:45 PM
stephen wrote:
> Do you think it's best to bounce spam or just accept it & flag it as
> junk?


Reject it at SMTP time but don't accept-and-bounce it.

The former means that any false-positives will be noticed, the latter
will only result in back-scatter.
 
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Colin Wilson
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      07-31-2007, 09:33 PM
> Correct, and the "from" and "reply to" address is most likely
> forged so bounces and anything else that comes back never goes
> anywhere near them.


Agreed - "joe job" is a common term for misuse of someone elses'
domain for returned mail from a spam run...

I've been hit "properly" once, and had mail coming in at the rate of
about 2 emails per 3 seconds for two weeks, trailing off over the next
month and a half or so...
 
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