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derek.jones67@ntlworld.com
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      04-10-2007, 10:52 PM
Lets face it - Virgin are offering an excellent deal and
groundbreaking services. And all for £30 a month with no hiddden
catches. So sky promote 3 for £26, but its actually 3 for £37
(including mandatory BT line rental). Therfore Virgin media is £84 a
year CHEAPER THAN SKY.

Thus sky engineer a situation whereby some of its channels are no
longer shown on Virgin and run a massive advertising campaign to back
this up. Sky do this by trying to double the cost of its channels
where audiences are falling! Sky prefer to loose advertising revenue
in the short term in order to make long term gains. A blatant abuse
of
market power and the actions of a true monopolist.


It is very interesting that the sky press releases (on their website)
make no reference to this situation - presumably as it is totally
indefensible.


VIRGIN MEDIA CUSTOMERS ARE NOT TAKEN IN BY SKYS TACTICS. THE MAJORITY
OF CABLE CUSTOMERS HAVE CABLE AS THEY CAN NOT TOLERATE THE MURDOCH
MONOPOLY AND EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR - TOTAL DOMINATION.

 
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      04-10-2007, 10:59 PM

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> VIRGIN MEDIA CUSTOMERS ARE NOT TAKEN IN BY SKYS TACTICS. THE MAJORITY
> OF CABLE CUSTOMERS HAVE CABLE AS THEY CAN NOT TOLERATE THE MURDOCH
> MONOPOLY AND EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR - TOTAL DOMINATION.


Can you keep the noise down please?

If you want the sky channels then get sky.
If you don't then get freeview and save the cost of cable TV.


 
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Colin Wilson
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      04-11-2007, 12:01 AM
> Thus sky engineer a situation whereby some of its channels are no
> longer shown on Virgin


If you're that worried, use a torrent site to catch up on what you're
missing (and the stuff that hasn't even been released over here yet!)
 
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      04-11-2007, 02:55 PM
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> Lets face it - Virgin are offering an excellent deal and
> groundbreaking services. And all for £30 a month with no hiddden
> catches. So sky promote 3 for £26, but its actually 3 for £37
> (including mandatory BT line rental). Therfore Virgin media is £84 a
> year CHEAPER THAN SKY.
>
> Thus sky engineer a situation whereby some of its channels are no
> longer shown on Virgin and run a massive advertising campaign to back
> this up. Sky do this by trying to double the cost of its channels
> where audiences are falling! Sky prefer to loose advertising revenue
> in the short term in order to make long term gains. A blatant abuse
> of
> market power and the actions of a true monopolist.
>
>
> It is very interesting that the sky press releases (on their website)
> make no reference to this situation - presumably as it is totally
> indefensible.
>
>
> VIRGIN MEDIA CUSTOMERS ARE NOT TAKEN IN BY SKYS TACTICS. THE MAJORITY
> OF CABLE CUSTOMERS HAVE CABLE AS THEY CAN NOT TOLERATE THE MURDOCH
> MONOPOLY AND EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR - TOTAL DOMINATION.


Dont forget that when you take sky sports via VM, you do not have access to
the sky active feature, thus when watching champions league matches on VM,
you can only watch the one match, If you have sky sports via sky, you can
choose from upto eight matches.

VM is cheaper for a reason, you get less for your money. I am not a big fan
of the sky monopoly, its not good for customers, however I do recognise a
good product when I see one.

When choosing between BT and VM for phone its close, when choosing between
VM or any oter ISP for broadband its close, when choosing tv sky are way
better than anybody else.


 
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      04-11-2007, 03:13 PM
XPUser wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>> Lets face it - Virgin are offering an excellent deal and
>> groundbreaking services. And all for £30 a month with no hiddden
>> catches. So sky promote 3 for £26, but its actually 3 for £37
>> (including mandatory BT line rental). Therfore Virgin media is £84 a
>> year CHEAPER THAN SKY.
>>
>> Thus sky engineer a situation whereby some of its channels are no
>> longer shown on Virgin and run a massive advertising campaign to back
>> this up. Sky do this by trying to double the cost of its channels
>> where audiences are falling! Sky prefer to loose advertising revenue
>> in the short term in order to make long term gains. A blatant abuse
>> of
>> market power and the actions of a true monopolist.
>>
>>
>> It is very interesting that the sky press releases (on their website)
>> make no reference to this situation - presumably as it is totally
>> indefensible.
>>
>>
>> VIRGIN MEDIA CUSTOMERS ARE NOT TAKEN IN BY SKYS TACTICS. THE MAJORITY
>> OF CABLE CUSTOMERS HAVE CABLE AS THEY CAN NOT TOLERATE THE MURDOCH
>> MONOPOLY AND EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR - TOTAL DOMINATION.

>
> Dont forget that when you take sky sports via VM, you do not have
> access to the sky active feature, thus when watching champions league
> matches on VM, you can only watch the one match, If you have sky
> sports via sky, you can choose from upto eight matches.
>
> VM is cheaper for a reason, you get less for your money. I am not a
> big fan of the sky monopoly, its not good for customers, however I do
> recognise a good product when I see one.
>
> When choosing between BT and VM for phone its close, when choosing
> between VM or any oter ISP for broadband its close, when choosing tv
> sky are way better than anybody else.


VM are way too expensive for phone service if you use the phone, not
even close. But that is based on having BT for line rental with free
caller display, getting free evening and weekend calls for no extra fee
via Primus Saver 2 and then using 18185 for other calls.

I use VM for broadband as I am in a cable area, so dumped the landline
18+ months ago and use VoIP, so far I have paid around 6 Euro and that's
it for my phone service, I'd been trialling the service before dumping
the landline, so have had around 2 years of phone service via VoIP for
the €6, granted I joined up at the right time and got many many months
of free calling, and then used completely free credit to top up my VoIP
service, but still it saves me £11 per month on the line rental, as it's
VoIP you get all the services such as caller display, 3-way calling, ACR
etc etc built in, and I get 300 mins per week to many countries
including the UK.

I used to subscribe to Sky, but then xTW had the offer of free starter
TV and reduced price broadband, I wanted the broadband from cable so I
could dump the landline, and was crazy not to accept the free TV to get
£5 off the broadband, they have extended the offer for me again, so I am
happy.

I don't watch as much TV as I used to, the rest of the family the same!
But with freeview, xTW starter TV and the free satellite channels, that
does us fine for now, if cable next say we can no longer have the TV for
free then we will dump it and have Sky switched back on again, as Sky is
the better service, just as the moment whilst cable is free we will save
our money.


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