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Robert L [MS-MVP]
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we have seen many slow issue on DSL VPN. Adjusting mtu may or may not fix
the issues. you may try windows demand-dial VPN. -- For more and other information, go to http://www.ChicagoTech.net Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services. Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more help. Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN, Anti-Virus, Tips & Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net Networking Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/networksolutions.htm VPN Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpnsolutions.htm VPN Process and Error Analysis, http://www.chicagotech.net/VPN%20process.htm VPN Troubleshooting, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpn.htm This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties. "rpaz61" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:B92A0900-A8EC-4CE2-A384-(E-Mail Removed)... > Here's the setup: > > Main Office > > Server: > Windows Server 2003 domain controller > IP address: 192.168.1.10 > Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 > Gateway: 192.168.1.1 > Services: Active Directory, DNS, DHCP > > Clients: > Mixture of PCs running Windows 2000 Profressional with SP3 and Windows XP > Professional with SP2 > > Network: > Dell 16-port switch > SBC 768K SDSL > > Firewall: > Sonicwall TZ170 Internet Security Appliance > LAN IP = 192.168.1.1 > LAN Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > Firmware version: SonicOS Standard 2.2.0.1 > Revision: 2.2.0_pp_8s $ > ROM version 2.0.0.3 > Previous firmware version: 2.0.0.2 > Fragment outbound packets larger than WAN MTU: 1 > WAN MTU: 1404 > CP Wan MTU: 1404 > WAN Ignore DF Bit for non-VPN traffic: 1 > > Site-to-site VPN: > Encrypt/Auth - ESP DES HMAC MD5 > Key Exchange: Manual Keys > VPN Terminated at: LAN > netbios off, ApplyNatAndRules off, ForwardPacketsToRemoteVPNs off > TunnelForAllOutboundTraffic off > Authentication of local users off, Authentication of remote users off > remote subnet for netbios 255.255.255.0 > destIP begin 192.168.2.1, end 192.168.2.254 > > > > Remote Office > > Clients: > 4 Dell PCs running Windows XP Professional with SP2 > > Network: > Belkin 8-port 10/100 hub > Choice One 768K SDSL > > Firewall: > Sonicwall TZ170 Internet Security Appliance > LAN IP = 192.168.2.1 > LAN Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > Firmware version: SonicOS Standard 2.2.0.1 > Revision: 2.2.0_pp_8s $ > ROM version 2.0.0.3 > Previous firmware version: 2.0.0.2 > Fragment outbound packets larger than WAN MTU: 1 > WAN MTU: 1404 > CP Wan MTU: 1404 > WAN Ignore DF Bit for non-VPN traffic: 1 > DHCP Server: > Enable DHCP = 1 > Lease Period = 1440 minutes > Range Start = 192.168.2.100 > Range End = 192.168.2.110 > Interface = LAN > Default Gateway = 192.168.2.1 > Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > Domain Name = <NULL> > DNS Servers = 192.168.1.10 > > Site-to-site VPN: > Encrypt/Auth - ESP DES HMAC MD5 > Key Exchange: Manual Keys > VPN Terminated at: LAN > netbios off, ApplyNatAndRules off, ForwardPacketsToRemoteVPNs off > TunnelForAllOutboundTraffic off > Authentication of local users off, Authentication of remote users off > remote subnet for netbios 255.255.255.0 > destIP begin 192.168.2.1, end 192.168.2.254 > > A site-to-site VPN between both Sonicwall TZ170 connects the Remote Office > to the Main Office. All four PCs at the Remote Office authenticate across > the VPN to the Windows Server 2003 domain controller. At the Remote > Office, > DNS is resolving to the domain controller across the VPN. > > Issue: > > All users use a Windows-based application that connects to a database on > the > Windows Server 2003 domain controller. > > There are not any performance issues in the Main Office. There are > performance issues with clients accessing the database and copying/opening > files from the server to the client PC over the VPN from the Remote > Office. > We ran a packet trace (netcap.exe on a Windows XP SP2 PC at the Remote > Office > and netmon.exe on the Windows Server 2003 domain controller) while copying > a > 12.7MB file from the server to the client PC. What we found is that the > client PC at the Remote Office is repeatedly sending ACKs across the VPN > tunnel to the domain controller and the domain controller is yet the > domain > controller is repeatedly sending ACKs across the VPN tunnel to the client > PC. > > > We do not know what's causing this issue. Sonicwall states that there's > nothing wrong with their hardware or the VPN tunnel itself. > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > Thanks in advance!! > > Rob > > PS - I can send the packet trace capture files if needed. Just let me > know. |
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Eugene Taylor
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Also you might want to look at TS as an alternative.
"Robert L [MS-MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)... > we have seen many slow issue on DSL VPN. Adjusting mtu may or may not fix > the issues. you may try windows demand-dial VPN. > > -- > For more and other information, go to http://www.ChicagoTech.net > > Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services. > Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more help. > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN, Anti-Virus, Tips & Troubleshooting on > http://www.ChicagoTech.net > Networking Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/networksolutions.htm > VPN Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpnsolutions.htm > VPN Process and Error Analysis, http://www.chicagotech.net/VPN%20process.htm > VPN Troubleshooting, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpn.htm > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties. > "rpaz61" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:B92A0900-A8EC-4CE2-A384-(E-Mail Removed)... > > Here's the setup: > > > > Main Office > > > > Server: > > Windows Server 2003 domain controller > > IP address: 192.168.1.10 > > Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 > > Gateway: 192.168.1.1 > > Services: Active Directory, DNS, DHCP > > > > Clients: > > Mixture of PCs running Windows 2000 Profressional with SP3 and Windows XP > > Professional with SP2 > > > > Network: > > Dell 16-port switch > > SBC 768K SDSL > > > > Firewall: > > Sonicwall TZ170 Internet Security Appliance > > LAN IP = 192.168.1.1 > > LAN Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > > Firmware version: SonicOS Standard 2.2.0.1 > > Revision: 2.2.0_pp_8s $ > > ROM version 2.0.0.3 > > Previous firmware version: 2.0.0.2 > > Fragment outbound packets larger than WAN MTU: 1 > > WAN MTU: 1404 > > CP Wan MTU: 1404 > > WAN Ignore DF Bit for non-VPN traffic: 1 > > > > Site-to-site VPN: > > Encrypt/Auth - ESP DES HMAC MD5 > > Key Exchange: Manual Keys > > VPN Terminated at: LAN > > netbios off, ApplyNatAndRules off, ForwardPacketsToRemoteVPNs off > > TunnelForAllOutboundTraffic off > > Authentication of local users off, Authentication of remote users off > > remote subnet for netbios 255.255.255.0 > > destIP begin 192.168.2.1, end 192.168.2.254 > > > > > > > > Remote Office > > > > Clients: > > 4 Dell PCs running Windows XP Professional with SP2 > > > > Network: > > Belkin 8-port 10/100 hub > > Choice One 768K SDSL > > > > Firewall: > > Sonicwall TZ170 Internet Security Appliance > > LAN IP = 192.168.2.1 > > LAN Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > > Firmware version: SonicOS Standard 2.2.0.1 > > Revision: 2.2.0_pp_8s $ > > ROM version 2.0.0.3 > > Previous firmware version: 2.0.0.2 > > Fragment outbound packets larger than WAN MTU: 1 > > WAN MTU: 1404 > > CP Wan MTU: 1404 > > WAN Ignore DF Bit for non-VPN traffic: 1 > > DHCP Server: > > Enable DHCP = 1 > > Lease Period = 1440 minutes > > Range Start = 192.168.2.100 > > Range End = 192.168.2.110 > > Interface = LAN > > Default Gateway = 192.168.2.1 > > Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > > Domain Name = <NULL> > > DNS Servers = 192.168.1.10 > > > > Site-to-site VPN: > > Encrypt/Auth - ESP DES HMAC MD5 > > Key Exchange: Manual Keys > > VPN Terminated at: LAN > > netbios off, ApplyNatAndRules off, ForwardPacketsToRemoteVPNs off > > TunnelForAllOutboundTraffic off > > Authentication of local users off, Authentication of remote users off > > remote subnet for netbios 255.255.255.0 > > destIP begin 192.168.2.1, end 192.168.2.254 > > > > A site-to-site VPN between both Sonicwall TZ170 connects the Remote Office > > to the Main Office. All four PCs at the Remote Office authenticate across > > the VPN to the Windows Server 2003 domain controller. At the Remote > > Office, > > DNS is resolving to the domain controller across the VPN. > > > > Issue: > > > > All users use a Windows-based application that connects to a database on > > the > > Windows Server 2003 domain controller. > > > > There are not any performance issues in the Main Office. There are > > performance issues with clients accessing the database and copying/opening > > files from the server to the client PC over the VPN from the Remote > > Office. > > We ran a packet trace (netcap.exe on a Windows XP SP2 PC at the Remote > > Office > > and netmon.exe on the Windows Server 2003 domain controller) while copying > > a > > 12.7MB file from the server to the client PC. What we found is that the > > client PC at the Remote Office is repeatedly sending ACKs across the VPN > > tunnel to the domain controller and the domain controller is yet the > > domain > > controller is repeatedly sending ACKs across the VPN tunnel to the client > > PC. > > > > > > We do not know what's causing this issue. Sonicwall states that there's > > nothing wrong with their hardware or the VPN tunnel itself. > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > > > Thanks in advance!! > > > > Rob > > > > PS - I can send the packet trace capture files if needed. Just let me > > know. > > |
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OK. Outside of suggesting using a Terminal Server and changing the MTU
settings (which is currently set to 1404), does any one have any other suggestions? Thanks, Rob "Eugene Taylor" wrote: > Also you might want to look at TS as an alternative. > "Robert L [MS-MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > we have seen many slow issue on DSL VPN. Adjusting mtu may or may not fix > > the issues. you may try windows demand-dial VPN. > > > > -- > > For more and other information, go to http://www.ChicagoTech.net > > > > Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services. > > Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more > help. > > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN, Anti-Virus, Tips & Troubleshooting on > > http://www.ChicagoTech.net > > Networking Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/networksolutions.htm > > VPN Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpnsolutions.htm > > VPN Process and Error Analysis, > http://www.chicagotech.net/VPN%20process.htm > > VPN Troubleshooting, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpn.htm > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties. > > "rpaz61" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > news:B92A0900-A8EC-4CE2-A384-(E-Mail Removed)... > > > Here's the setup: > > > > > > Main Office > > > > > > Server: > > > Windows Server 2003 domain controller > > > IP address: 192.168.1.10 > > > Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 > > > Gateway: 192.168.1.1 > > > Services: Active Directory, DNS, DHCP > > > > > > Clients: > > > Mixture of PCs running Windows 2000 Profressional with SP3 and Windows > XP > > > Professional with SP2 > > > > > > Network: > > > Dell 16-port switch > > > SBC 768K SDSL > > > > > > Firewall: > > > Sonicwall TZ170 Internet Security Appliance > > > LAN IP = 192.168.1.1 > > > LAN Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > > > Firmware version: SonicOS Standard 2.2.0.1 > > > Revision: 2.2.0_pp_8s $ > > > ROM version 2.0.0.3 > > > Previous firmware version: 2.0.0.2 > > > Fragment outbound packets larger than WAN MTU: 1 > > > WAN MTU: 1404 > > > CP Wan MTU: 1404 > > > WAN Ignore DF Bit for non-VPN traffic: 1 > > > > > > Site-to-site VPN: > > > Encrypt/Auth - ESP DES HMAC MD5 > > > Key Exchange: Manual Keys > > > VPN Terminated at: LAN > > > netbios off, ApplyNatAndRules off, ForwardPacketsToRemoteVPNs off > > > TunnelForAllOutboundTraffic off > > > Authentication of local users off, Authentication of remote users off > > > remote subnet for netbios 255.255.255.0 > > > destIP begin 192.168.2.1, end 192.168.2.254 > > > > > > > > > > > > Remote Office > > > > > > Clients: > > > 4 Dell PCs running Windows XP Professional with SP2 > > > > > > Network: > > > Belkin 8-port 10/100 hub > > > Choice One 768K SDSL > > > > > > Firewall: > > > Sonicwall TZ170 Internet Security Appliance > > > LAN IP = 192.168.2.1 > > > LAN Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > > > Firmware version: SonicOS Standard 2.2.0.1 > > > Revision: 2.2.0_pp_8s $ > > > ROM version 2.0.0.3 > > > Previous firmware version: 2.0.0.2 > > > Fragment outbound packets larger than WAN MTU: 1 > > > WAN MTU: 1404 > > > CP Wan MTU: 1404 > > > WAN Ignore DF Bit for non-VPN traffic: 1 > > > DHCP Server: > > > Enable DHCP = 1 > > > Lease Period = 1440 minutes > > > Range Start = 192.168.2.100 > > > Range End = 192.168.2.110 > > > Interface = LAN > > > Default Gateway = 192.168.2.1 > > > Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > > > Domain Name = <NULL> > > > DNS Servers = 192.168.1.10 > > > > > > Site-to-site VPN: > > > Encrypt/Auth - ESP DES HMAC MD5 > > > Key Exchange: Manual Keys > > > VPN Terminated at: LAN > > > netbios off, ApplyNatAndRules off, ForwardPacketsToRemoteVPNs off > > > TunnelForAllOutboundTraffic off > > > Authentication of local users off, Authentication of remote users off > > > remote subnet for netbios 255.255.255.0 > > > destIP begin 192.168.2.1, end 192.168.2.254 > > > > > > A site-to-site VPN between both Sonicwall TZ170 connects the Remote > Office > > > to the Main Office. All four PCs at the Remote Office authenticate > across > > > the VPN to the Windows Server 2003 domain controller. At the Remote > > > Office, > > > DNS is resolving to the domain controller across the VPN. > > > > > > Issue: > > > > > > All users use a Windows-based application that connects to a database on > > > the > > > Windows Server 2003 domain controller. > > > > > > There are not any performance issues in the Main Office. There are > > > performance issues with clients accessing the database and > copying/opening > > > files from the server to the client PC over the VPN from the Remote > > > Office. > > > We ran a packet trace (netcap.exe on a Windows XP SP2 PC at the Remote > > > Office > > > and netmon.exe on the Windows Server 2003 domain controller) while > copying > > > a > > > 12.7MB file from the server to the client PC. What we found is that the > > > client PC at the Remote Office is repeatedly sending ACKs across the VPN > > > tunnel to the domain controller and the domain controller is yet the > > > domain > > > controller is repeatedly sending ACKs across the VPN tunnel to the > client > > > PC. > > > > > > > > > We do not know what's causing this issue. Sonicwall states that there's > > > nothing wrong with their hardware or the VPN tunnel itself. > > > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > > > > > Thanks in advance!! > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > PS - I can send the packet trace capture files if needed. Just let me > > > know. > > > > > > > |
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Eugene Taylor
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I would also try putting a dc in the remote office. This should help cut
down on the traffic if they are authenticating locally. "rpaz61" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:7F4DFA87-3585-426D-892D-(E-Mail Removed)... > OK. Outside of suggesting using a Terminal Server and changing the MTU > settings (which is currently set to 1404), does any one have any other > suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Rob > > "Eugene Taylor" wrote: > > > Also you might want to look at TS as an alternative. > > "Robert L [MS-MVP]" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > news:(E-Mail Removed)... > > > we have seen many slow issue on DSL VPN. Adjusting mtu may or may not fix > > > the issues. you may try windows demand-dial VPN. > > > > > > -- > > > For more and other information, go to http://www.ChicagoTech.net > > > > > > Don't send e-mail or reply to me except you need consulting services. > > > Posting on MS newsgroup will benefit all readers and you may get more > > help. > > > > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN, Anti-Virus, Tips & Troubleshooting on > > > http://www.ChicagoTech.net > > > Networking Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/networksolutions.htm > > > VPN Solutions, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpnsolutions.htm > > > VPN Process and Error Analysis, > > http://www.chicagotech.net/VPN%20process.htm > > > VPN Troubleshooting, http://www.chicagotech.net/vpn.htm > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties. > > > "rpaz61" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > > > news:B92A0900-A8EC-4CE2-A384-(E-Mail Removed)... > > > > Here's the setup: > > > > > > > > Main Office > > > > > > > > Server: > > > > Windows Server 2003 domain controller > > > > IP address: 192.168.1.10 > > > > Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 > > > > Gateway: 192.168.1.1 > > > > Services: Active Directory, DNS, DHCP > > > > > > > > Clients: > > > > Mixture of PCs running Windows 2000 Profressional with SP3 and Windows > > XP > > > > Professional with SP2 > > > > > > > > Network: > > > > Dell 16-port switch > > > > SBC 768K SDSL > > > > > > > > Firewall: > > > > Sonicwall TZ170 Internet Security Appliance > > > > LAN IP = 192.168.1.1 > > > > LAN Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > > > > Firmware version: SonicOS Standard 2.2.0.1 > > > > Revision: 2.2.0_pp_8s $ > > > > ROM version 2.0.0.3 > > > > Previous firmware version: 2.0.0.2 > > > > Fragment outbound packets larger than WAN MTU: 1 > > > > WAN MTU: 1404 > > > > CP Wan MTU: 1404 > > > > WAN Ignore DF Bit for non-VPN traffic: 1 > > > > > > > > Site-to-site VPN: > > > > Encrypt/Auth - ESP DES HMAC MD5 > > > > Key Exchange: Manual Keys > > > > VPN Terminated at: LAN > > > > netbios off, ApplyNatAndRules off, ForwardPacketsToRemoteVPNs off > > > > TunnelForAllOutboundTraffic off > > > > Authentication of local users off, Authentication of remote users off > > > > remote subnet for netbios 255.255.255.0 > > > > destIP begin 192.168.2.1, end 192.168.2.254 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Remote Office > > > > > > > > Clients: > > > > 4 Dell PCs running Windows XP Professional with SP2 > > > > > > > > Network: > > > > Belkin 8-port 10/100 hub > > > > Choice One 768K SDSL > > > > > > > > Firewall: > > > > Sonicwall TZ170 Internet Security Appliance > > > > LAN IP = 192.168.2.1 > > > > LAN Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > > > > Firmware version: SonicOS Standard 2.2.0.1 > > > > Revision: 2.2.0_pp_8s $ > > > > ROM version 2.0.0.3 > > > > Previous firmware version: 2.0.0.2 > > > > Fragment outbound packets larger than WAN MTU: 1 > > > > WAN MTU: 1404 > > > > CP Wan MTU: 1404 > > > > WAN Ignore DF Bit for non-VPN traffic: 1 > > > > DHCP Server: > > > > Enable DHCP = 1 > > > > Lease Period = 1440 minutes > > > > Range Start = 192.168.2.100 > > > > Range End = 192.168.2.110 > > > > Interface = LAN > > > > Default Gateway = 192.168.2.1 > > > > Subnet Mask = 255.255.255.0 > > > > Domain Name = <NULL> > > > > DNS Servers = 192.168.1.10 > > > > > > > > Site-to-site VPN: > > > > Encrypt/Auth - ESP DES HMAC MD5 > > > > Key Exchange: Manual Keys > > > > VPN Terminated at: LAN > > > > netbios off, ApplyNatAndRules off, ForwardPacketsToRemoteVPNs off > > > > TunnelForAllOutboundTraffic off > > > > Authentication of local users off, Authentication of remote users off > > > > remote subnet for netbios 255.255.255.0 > > > > destIP begin 192.168.2.1, end 192.168.2.254 > > > > > > > > A site-to-site VPN between both Sonicwall TZ170 connects the Remote > > Office > > > > to the Main Office. All four PCs at the Remote Office authenticate > > across > > > > the VPN to the Windows Server 2003 domain controller. At the Remote > > > > Office, > > > > DNS is resolving to the domain controller across the VPN. > > > > > > > > Issue: > > > > > > > > All users use a Windows-based application that connects to a database on > > > > the > > > > Windows Server 2003 domain controller. > > > > > > > > There are not any performance issues in the Main Office. There are > > > > performance issues with clients accessing the database and > > copying/opening > > > > files from the server to the client PC over the VPN from the Remote > > > > Office. > > > > We ran a packet trace (netcap.exe on a Windows XP SP2 PC at the Remote > > > > Office > > > > and netmon.exe on the Windows Server 2003 domain controller) while > > copying > > > > a > > > > 12.7MB file from the server to the client PC. What we found is that the > > > > client PC at the Remote Office is repeatedly sending ACKs across the VPN > > > > tunnel to the domain controller and the domain controller is yet the > > > > domain > > > > controller is repeatedly sending ACKs across the VPN tunnel to the > > client > > > > PC. > > > > > > > > > > > > We do not know what's causing this issue. Sonicwall states that there's > > > > nothing wrong with their hardware or the VPN tunnel itself. > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance!! > > > > > > > > Rob > > > > > > > > PS - I can send the packet trace capture files if needed. Just let me > > > > know. > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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