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LarryINmich
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      11-07-2006, 12:49 PM
Gateway desktop cabled to Comcast via cable modem all works fine.
Toshiba laptop will connnect at public wireless access points.
SO
Common sense says to me, all I need is (a router??) maybe not even that to
allow the laptop to access the web with the gateway being the portal....
Wrong? Right? Left???
So HOPEFULLY someone has a link or two that will allow me to (smile here)
quickly and inexpensively let the Toshiba access the web through the
gateways portal.....

TIA

LarryINmich
 
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      11-07-2006, 01:50 PM
or - install wireless card (consider USB) on Gateway - set up ICS.

"LarryINmich" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Gateway desktop cabled to Comcast via cable modem all works fine.
> Toshiba laptop will connnect at public wireless access points.
> SO
> Common sense says to me, all I need is (a router??) maybe not even that to
> allow the laptop to access the web with the gateway being the portal....
> Wrong? Right? Left???
> So HOPEFULLY someone has a link or two that will allow me to (smile here)
> quickly and inexpensively let the Toshiba access the web through the
> gateways portal.....
>
> TIA
>
> LarryINmich



 
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Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
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      11-07-2006, 01:50 PM
Hi
The content of the following links can serve as a basic tutorial concerning
Sharing Internet, and using Wireless; it is short and to the point.
The three first pages were written ages ago. You might ignore the prices,
and the specific choice of hardware, stick with the principles they are
still the same.
Basic Options for Internet Connection Sharing -
http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=105
Hubs, routers, switches, DSL, LANs, WANs...? -
http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=48
Wireless Principles - http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=122
The whole thing should like this, http://www.ezlan.net/network/router.jpg
Wireless hardware - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Hardware.html
Wireless, Basic Configuration - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html
Wireless, Basic Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"LarryINmich" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Gateway desktop cabled to Comcast via cable modem all works fine.
> Toshiba laptop will connnect at public wireless access points.
> SO
> Common sense says to me, all I need is (a router??) maybe not even that to
> allow the laptop to access the web with the gateway being the portal....
> Wrong? Right? Left???
> So HOPEFULLY someone has a link or two that will allow me to (smile here)
> quickly and inexpensively let the Toshiba access the web through the
> gateways portal.....
>
> TIA
>
> LarryINmich



 
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LarryINmich
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      11-08-2006, 03:09 PM
Thanks all, will check it out and maybe try that $69 item, but it better not
end up like my unopened USB 60meg HD!!!!! for 3 months....
From what I have been reading both devices have to talk (handshake?) in
order for them to communicate....
My son was never able to get a household wireless network going, hope my
luck will be better. And better than the chaos I had with WMM, but when its
right its right...

L.

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
> The content of the following links can serve as a basic tutorial concerning
> Sharing Internet, and using Wireless; it is short and to the point.
> The three first pages were written ages ago. You might ignore the prices,
> and the specific choice of hardware, stick with the principles they are
> still the same.
> Basic Options for Internet Connection Sharing -
> http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=105
> Hubs, routers, switches, DSL, LANs, WANs...? -
> http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=48
> Wireless Principles - http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=122
> The whole thing should like this, http://www.ezlan.net/network/router.jpg
> Wireless hardware - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Hardware.html
> Wireless, Basic Configuration - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html
> Wireless, Basic Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "LarryINmich" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news2B8067A-BA04-4D2B-AA0B-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Gateway desktop cabled to Comcast via cable modem all works fine.
> > Toshiba laptop will connnect at public wireless access points.
> > SO
> > Common sense says to me, all I need is (a router??) maybe not even that to
> > allow the laptop to access the web with the gateway being the portal....
> > Wrong? Right? Left???
> > So HOPEFULLY someone has a link or two that will allow me to (smile here)
> > quickly and inexpensively let the Toshiba access the web through the
> > gateways portal.....
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > LarryINmich

>
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      11-08-2006, 06:42 PM
Hmmm maybe I M missing something here. With the laptop having Wifi, all I
need to utilize the web when the Gateway is connected thru the cable modem,
is to equip the Gateway with, say, a USB wifi adapter???
After some browsing I find that all is not rosy in the wireless world, esp
with a new standard in interim form.My Computer Shopper has only $150 and up
routers reviewed, even they have various foul ups.

So if I will be able to browse the web by using my Toshiba with its
builtin wifi, thru my Gateway, isn't this the low dollar AND goof proof
solution???

Gracias

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      11-10-2006, 02:18 PM
Jack

After I installed IE7 I renewed the network with Netgear Rangemax
router(connected to cable modem) netgear wireless adapter for the notebook.
I have set up wireless network following your guide with simple file sharing
enabled at both ends. ZoneAlarm Security Suite is installed similarly
configured :
1 -Desktop (Copsehill)connects to Internet OK
2- Desktop connects to Notebook(Francoise) OK and opens shared files
3 Notebook (Francoise) connects to Internet OK. The Copsehill shared files
are shown correctly in My Network places in the Internet Section
4 But the notebook cannot connect to the Desktop. Instead Notebook
(Francoise) connects to Desktop (Copsehill), finds places and files but
fails to open them with the error message

\\CopseHill\Desktop is not accessible. You might not have permission to use
this network resource.

I have worked through the settings guide but am unable to resolve this
problem.
Can you help
--
John
"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi
> The content of the following links can serve as a basic tutorial
> concerning Sharing Internet, and using Wireless; it is short and to the
> point.
> The three first pages were written ages ago. You might ignore the prices,
> and the specific choice of hardware, stick with the principles they are
> still the same.
> Basic Options for Internet Connection Sharing -
> http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=105
> Hubs, routers, switches, DSL, LANs, WANs...? -
> http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=48
> Wireless Principles - http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=122
> The whole thing should like this, http://www.ezlan.net/network/router.jpg
> Wireless hardware - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Hardware.html
> Wireless, Basic Configuration - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html
> Wireless, Basic Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "LarryINmich" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news2B8067A-BA04-4D2B-AA0B-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Gateway desktop cabled to Comcast via cable modem all works fine.
>> Toshiba laptop will connnect at public wireless access points.
>> SO
>> Common sense says to me, all I need is (a router??) maybe not even that
>> to
>> allow the laptop to access the web with the gateway being the portal....
>> Wrong? Right? Left???
>> So HOPEFULLY someone has a link or two that will allow me to (smile
>> here)
>> quickly and inexpensively let the Toshiba access the web through the
>> gateways portal.....
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> LarryINmich

>
>



 
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      11-10-2006, 02:54 PM
Hellllll0000000000 out there. Anyone have answers?
I posted a second requrest vis a vis using 'standard' wireless setup? The
posts get Greekier and Geekier and I am a PNP person,
ah LUVS mah USB drive that also serves as a keychain pendant..... THATS
modern computer technology.
The rest of all this is technospeak with spend all your spare time
researching and trying and playing show and tell via the web pages.
Do we REALLY have answers here or only more questions and time killers....
Color me S a D d

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      11-10-2006, 03:29 PM
Larry

I have a setup like yours. I have a Netgear WNR834B Rangemax router to which
the cable modem is attached as is the PC. The notebook has a Netgear
Rangemax notebook adapter WNS11B. This works OK except I have a problem with
the note book not accessing the shared files in PC tho' it accesses the
Internet fine.

Whole setup cost about $140.
John
"LarryINmich" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hellllll0000000000 out there. Anyone have answers?
> I posted a second requrest vis a vis using 'standard' wireless setup?
> The
> posts get Greekier and Geekier and I am a PNP person,
> ah LUVS mah USB drive that also serves as a keychain pendant..... THATS
> modern computer technology.
> The rest of all this is technospeak with spend all your spare time
> researching and trying and playing show and tell via the web pages.
> Do we REALLY have answers here or only more questions and time killers....
> Color me S a D d
>
> L


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"LarryINmich" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:B5005BE6-32ED-4E82-85DF-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hellllll0000000000 out there. Anyone have answers?
> I posted a second requrest vis a vis using 'standard' wireless setup?
> The
> posts get Greekier and Geekier and I am a PNP person,
> ah LUVS mah USB drive that also serves as a keychain pendant..... THATS
> modern computer technology.
> The rest of all this is technospeak with spend all your spare time
> researching and trying and playing show and tell via the web pages.
> Do we REALLY have answers here or only more questions and time killers....
> Color me S a D d
>
> L



 
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      11-11-2006, 12:54 PM
Your replies are definately appreciated. HOWEVER
one replyee has both the laptop and the desktop with the same brand of gear,
minimizing goofs and incompatability. The first person with the $69 router I
M glad it works but...
Note I have a Toshiba convertible. Tosh is evidently not overly compatible
unless , unless what? I bot a USB IR dongle and after extensive work find
the fine print in toshiba help site that they dont recommend them. Wanna
IRDA dongle cheap?
I researched user responses to various Routers, and find MANY have a useless
critter. COnversely the $150 and up items were much more useful...
So far I have spent too much time investigating cause have been burned by
enough hi tech doo dahs that need someone with unlimited time and budget to
play lets buy and swap and return until something works...

Guess since I can use my Tosh wireless at Paneras, I thot the best way is
simply same wireless setup via USB wireless adapter.

Cheers. Isnt this hi tech wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Having earned
my three score and ten yrs on this planet, I may never know if it will work.
tick tick tick....

L
 
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      11-12-2006, 12:06 AM
Sheesh, its a Looooong way to Tipparrey.
So here I post, thinking the routers were another point on the compass of
web communication. However I finally got it thru me skull that we R talking
plain ole 803g,b,e whatever????? Looks like I will simply take the plunge,
tho not sure my Gateway has any spare slots for a card. Hence the ref to USB
device.... It may be a month before I toy with all this no pun intended,
will post back when it all happens. Someones reference I think to
http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Hardware.html
would have put me straight.

LATER

L.


> > Your replies are definately appreciated.

>
> Thank you. Comes from 20 years doing computer system engineering.
>
> > HOWEVER

>
> Ahh....
>
> > one replyee has both the laptop and the desktop with the same
> > brand of gear, minimizing goofs and incompatability.

>
> Don't fall into the trap of believing wireless compatilbity is like
> repairing a washing machine. Matching the same "brand of gear" just doesn't
> matter. More imporant is the generation of gear. They need to support the
> same standards.
>
> > Note I have a Toshiba convertible. Tosh is evidently not overly
> > compatible
> > unless , unless what?

>
> The wireless function in a Toshiba is fully compatible with the wireless
> equipment on the market today.
>
> > I bot a USB IR dongle and after extensive work find the fine print in
> > toshiba help site that they dont recommend them.

>
> Of course not. USB is the worst networking option on any system. Not just
> Toshiba. Routine stuff. UTP (also called Cat-V, also called Ethernet) is the
> best and most compatible method (used in the $69 router I recommended).
>
> > Wanna IRDA dongle cheap?

>
> Nope.
>
> > I researched user responses to various Routers, and find MANY
> > have a useless critter.

>
> Huh?
>
> > COnversely the $150 and up items were much more useful.

>
> Go here... $49.00.
> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1051826245223
>
> > Guess since I can use my Tosh wireless at Paneras,
> > I thot the best way is simply same wireless setup via
> > USB wireless adapter.

>
> Well, in technical terms... USB networking sucks!
>
> > Having earned my three score and ten yrs on this planet,
> > I may never know if it will work. tick tick tick....

>
> I'm only at 2 score and 19 myself. LOL!
>
> -Frank
>
>
>

 
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