Simple effective wifi router, help

On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:31:51 -0500, "JohnJ"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>When you use them for other stuff don't you get concerned if the output
>voltage and the mA exactly correct for the device?

The Repair FAQ section on wall warts is a useful read. There's a
section on wall wart substitions:
<http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/aapsfaq.htm>

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On 1/14/2012 10:49 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 05:36:29 -0600, "NotMe"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> "Jeff Liebermann"
>>> Make sure she gets a not-easily-removable rubberized protective case
>>> and possibly Applecare in case it gets dropped anyway.
>>
>> Unless something has changed Applecare does not cover physical damage.
>
> Assumptions vary:
> <http://www.iphonelife.com/issues/2011May-June/HowGetDamageRepaired>
> but in this case, you're correct. The warranty and AppleCare only
> cover manufacturers defects.
>
> Apple will label the slightest dent, ding, or crack as evidence of
> abuse, resulting in voiding the warranty. I played middleman for a
> friend trying to get her iPhone 3G fixed under warranty. Wi-Fi
> functionality had decided to quit. She had AppleCare. However, since
> the phone appeared to have been dropped (cracked glass in one corner),
> Apple declared the phone to have been abused, and therefore not
> covered. The debate went back and forth for about 2 months, with no
> progress.
>
> Square Trade and others cover physical damage.
> <http://www.squaretrade.com/pages/ipad-landing>
> <http://www.worthavegroup.com/ipad>
>
>

That is really lame. Iphone glass cracks without doing anything to the
phone. You can temperature cycle the phone and crack the glass. Apple
usually replaces the cracked glass for free. Several times in the case
of one woman I met.

I tell everyone to get an Otterbox for the iphone. You won't regret it.

The web is full of photos of cracked glass iphones. With the iphone4,
you can crack the back glass too. What were they thinking?

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A07UCdIZZYE

The back glass is easy to fix. The front glass...well not so good due to
the LCD glued to the glass.

BTW, some of these new phones with NFC are adopting the Apple model of
no removable back. They put the NFC on the back and making it removable
is expensive. The ones that have a removable back charge a lot to
replace it.
> http://cdn.crackberry.com/files/blac...d-9900-nfc.jpg

I JUST BOUGHT A BELKIN N150 ROUTER FROM OFFICE MAX, ABOUT THIRTY BUCKS,
WORKS GREAT.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:10:52 -0800, miso <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>That is really lame. Iphone glass cracks without doing anything to the
>phone. You can temperature cycle the phone and crack the glass. Apple
>usually replaces the cracked glass for free. Several times in the case
>of one woman I met.

Yep. It seems to depend on the Authorized Apple Service Provider or
Store. The one in Salinas was useless and would use any excuse
possible to avoid a warranty repair or replacement. The store in Los
Gatos seems to be far more cooperative. Recently, we've added a
ClickAway service shop that will do iPhones. I haven't talked to them
yet.

On an iPhone 3G, it's very difficult to replace just the glass as it's
glued to the digitizer section. The entire front panel needs to be
replaced. That's like replacing half the iPhone guts.

However, you missed my problem. It's not the digitizer or front glass
that needs work. It's chipped a little in one corner, but still quite
functional. It's the wireless section, deep inside the phone. I've
opened it up (suction cup method) and looked for any damage, but
didn't find anything. There's a problem with the wi-fi section on the
logic board.
<http://www.ifixit.com/Device/iPhone_3G>

>I tell everyone to get an Otterbox for the iphone. You won't regret it.

I use a leather book-like case. Works fine. The owner of the 3GS
didn't use anything and was planning to get a case. She says the
wi-fi crapped out before she dropped the phone and cracked the glass,
but I don't believe it. (The joy of being in the middle).

>The web is full of photos of cracked glass iphones. With the iphone4,
>you can crack the back glass too. What were they thinking?

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. It's the old
story of form following function except Apple got it backwards. The
iPad has style, great looks, elegance, sales appeal, but is severely
lacking in ruggedness, repairability, maintainability (battery), and
survivability (water). If you buy one, you just have to be more
careful or more protective than the typical cell phone. Most adult
can live with that. Few kids will understand.

One of my neighbors in the office complex bought two iPhone 4 phones
for himself and his brother. Both now have protectors after both
cracked the front glass. I vaguely recall that it was $225 for the
repair.

I don't hang around 10 year olds much, but after repairing the
neighbors kids toys, bikes, and electronics for many years, I'm
beginning to suspect that no amount of protection is sufficient. If
you cruise the isles of Toys-r-US, you'll see quite a few well
protected devices made for kids. If the iPad crash protector doesn't
look like that, the iPad 2 is probably not going to survive.

"Best iPad 2 case for kids"
<https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3083885>

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On 1/14/2012 7:48 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 19:10:52 -0800, miso<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> That is really lame. Iphone glass cracks without doing anything to the
>> phone. You can temperature cycle the phone and crack the glass. Apple
>> usually replaces the cracked glass for free. Several times in the case
>> of one woman I met.
>
> Yep. It seems to depend on the Authorized Apple Service Provider or
> Store. The one in Salinas was useless and would use any excuse
> possible to avoid a warranty repair or replacement. The store in Los
> Gatos seems to be far more cooperative. Recently, we've added a
> ClickAway service shop that will do iPhones. I haven't talked to them
> yet.
>
> On an iPhone 3G, it's very difficult to replace just the glass as it's
> glued to the digitizer section. The entire front panel needs to be
> replaced. That's like replacing half the iPhone guts.
>
> However, you missed my problem. It's not the digitizer or front glass
> that needs work. It's chipped a little in one corner, but still quite
> functional. It's the wireless section, deep inside the phone. I've
> opened it up (suction cup method) and looked for any damage, but
> didn't find anything. There's a problem with the wi-fi section on the
> logic board.
> <http://www.ifixit.com/Device/iPhone_3G>
>
>> I tell everyone to get an Otterbox for the iphone. You won't regret it.
>
> I use a leather book-like case. Works fine. The owner of the 3GS
> didn't use anything and was planning to get a case. She says the
> wi-fi crapped out before she dropped the phone and cracked the glass,
> but I don't believe it. (The joy of being in the middle).
>
>> The web is full of photos of cracked glass iphones. With the iphone4,
>> you can crack the back glass too. What were they thinking?
>
> People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. It's the old
> story of form following function except Apple got it backwards. The
> iPad has style, great looks, elegance, sales appeal, but is severely
> lacking in ruggedness, repairability, maintainability (battery), and
> survivability (water). If you buy one, you just have to be more
> careful or more protective than the typical cell phone. Most adult
> can live with that. Few kids will understand.
>
> One of my neighbors in the office complex bought two iPhone 4 phones
> for himself and his brother. Both now have protectors after both
> cracked the front glass. I vaguely recall that it was $225 for the
> repair.
>
> I don't hang around 10 year olds much, but after repairing the
> neighbors kids toys, bikes, and electronics for many years, I'm
> beginning to suspect that no amount of protection is sufficient. If
> you cruise the isles of Toys-r-US, you'll see quite a few well
> protected devices made for kids. If the iPad crash protector doesn't
> look like that, the iPad 2 is probably not going to survive.
>
> "Best iPad 2 case for kids"
> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3083885>
>
I saw the wifi part, but didn't know much about that. The cracked glass
is everywhere.

The iphone as a radio basically sucks. Good gaming console. I don't have
one, so I don't have to deal with the shitty construction, but I deal
with people who use iphones and it's a PITA when you can't get a hold of
someone or the call drops because they use that piece of shit phone.
Needless to say, I have to loan my phone often because these iphone
owners have dead phones or can't hit the tower. And I'm on freakin'
T-Mob, which has way less towers than ATT.

Let's hope the iphone 5 sucks less.

On 1/14/2012 7:05 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:31:51 -0500, "JohnJ"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> When you use them for other stuff don't you get concerned if the output
>> voltage and the mA exactly correct for the device?
>
> The Repair FAQ section on wall warts is a useful read. There's a
> section on wall wart substitions:
> <http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/aapsfaq.htm>
>

Need proof few people read something this dense?

"Attempt sapping at your own risk!!!"

On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:35:56 -0800, miso <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>The iphone as a radio basically sucks. Good gaming console. I don't have
>one, so I don't have to deal with the shitty construction, but I deal
>with people who use iphones and it's a PITA when you can't get a hold of
>someone or the call drops because they use that piece of shit phone.
>Needless to say, I have to loan my phone often because these iphone
>owners have dead phones or can't hit the tower. And I'm on freakin'
>T-Mob, which has way less towers than ATT.

Hint. The hand test:
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/cellular/cell-test.htm>
The worst phone I tested had a -12dB drop in indicated signal level
when I wrapped my hand around the antenna. The iPhone 4 lost anywhere
between -20 and -25dB depending on the test method. That's the
difference between an x16 loss and a x100 -> x300 loss. Rumor has it
that the Verizon iPhone 4 drops fewer calls than the AT&T version.

>Let's hope the iphone 5 sucks less.

Bingo. That's the only reason people upgrade. I know several iPhone
addicts that have purchased every upgrade as their contract expires in
the vain hope that the next model will suck less. Yet, they're
confirmed and dedicated fans of the iPhone. I've learned not to
question their logic. Without deficiencies, nobody upgrades.

Right now, I'm still using my ancient LG VX8300 as a cell phone on
PagePlus Cellular (Verizon MVNO). Small, cheap, reliable. I don't
recall when I last had a dropped call (except in really lousy signal
areas). I carry my iPhone 3G and use it as a PDA. I'm also playing
with an original Droid A855 to see how it plays as a PDA. I have no
intention of paying for a data plan, so neither will be activated.

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On 1/15/2012 7:09 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 18:35:56 -0800, miso<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> The iphone as a radio basically sucks. Good gaming console. I don't have
>> one, so I don't have to deal with the shitty construction, but I deal
>> with people who use iphones and it's a PITA when you can't get a hold of
>> someone or the call drops because they use that piece of shit phone.
>> Needless to say, I have to loan my phone often because these iphone
>> owners have dead phones or can't hit the tower. And I'm on freakin'
>> T-Mob, which has way less towers than ATT.
>
> Hint. The hand test:
> <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/cellular/cell-test.htm>
> The worst phone I tested had a -12dB drop in indicated signal level
> when I wrapped my hand around the antenna. The iPhone 4 lost anywhere
> between -20 and -25dB depending on the test method. That's the
> difference between an x16 loss and a x100 -> x300 loss. Rumor has it
> that the Verizon iPhone 4 drops fewer calls than the AT&T version.
>
>> Let's hope the iphone 5 sucks less.
>
> Bingo. That's the only reason people upgrade. I know several iPhone
> addicts that have purchased every upgrade as their contract expires in
> the vain hope that the next model will suck less. Yet, they're
> confirmed and dedicated fans of the iPhone. I've learned not to
> question their logic. Without deficiencies, nobody upgrades.
>
> Right now, I'm still using my ancient LG VX8300 as a cell phone on
> PagePlus Cellular (Verizon MVNO). Small, cheap, reliable. I don't
> recall when I last had a dropped call (except in really lousy signal
> areas). I carry my iPhone 3G and use it as a PDA. I'm also playing
> with an original Droid A855 to see how it plays as a PDA. I have no
> intention of paying for a data plan, so neither will be activated.
>

It makes sense that a phone with an external antenna would have less of
a "hand effect." That other link has a funny definition of a field test.
The Blackberry service monitor is so extensive that RIM locked it down
and threatened legal action to those who provide the means to put the
phone in the service mode. The article is correct that you can read
signal strength in the Options menu.

T-mobile allows the iphone to be used on their network without a data
plan. Of course you only get EDGE with the iphone, so who would pay for
a data plan. There are over a million iphones on T-Mobile, probably run
by kids for gaming. I guess they can buy apps via itunes.

Verizon has announced they will no longer accept smartphones phones that
don't have LTE. I assume they will accept dumb phones.

At the peak of CES, Verizon was delivering 8mbps down in Vegas. It was
20mbps before the geeks arrived. I can get about 6mbps off of T-mob
using the chipset capable of 7mbps. But only in a non-geeky town, not
crowded parts of the bay area. I'm doing good getting 2mbps down in the
valley with all those geeks streaming Pandora.