Signal Seeker on Ebay

Hello all
First time caller, long time listener. I was searching fo
something to share internet from my computer from inside my house, t
my barn nearly 4/10 of a mile a way. I had been looking for a while a
various options, and found an auction for the signal seeker. I emaile
the seller first to see if I didn't like it, could I send it back? H
said no problem, so I dove in for it. To be honest with you, the thin
has been great. I got the little tripod that was an option, and set i
up in a window pointing towards my barn. I set it up in Ad-Hoc mode
which was a little confusing at first, but once I got it working.....i
has been a god-send. I am using no external antenna on my laptop, jus
n orinoco classic gold card, which I use for wardriving every now an
then. I decided to take the new toy wardriving on my 50 mile driv
from north dayton to cincinnati to my shop. I usually pick up betwee
210-225 AP's with my gold card and a 7dbi omi-directional antenna.
Though it got a little tiring pointing left and right with the signa
seeker, I picked up 529. A local truck stop has free Wi-Fi so I trie
to see how far I could pick up the signal. After pulling out of th
driveway of the truckstop, I stopped at a gas station .6 miles down th
road according to my odometer. I pointed the signal seeker in th
direction, and had no problem connecting. Well, thats my review i
short. I know there has been a lot of bashing of this product on here
but since there was a return policy, I thought I would try. I am in n
way offiliated with the product, just a happy customer/user

Kri

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Racer23

Racer23 wrote:
> Hello all,
> First time caller, long time listener. I was searching for
> something to share internet from my computer from inside my house, to
> my barn nearly 4/10 of a mile a way. I had been looking for a while at
> various options, and found an auction for the signal seeker. I emailed
> the seller first to see if I didn't like it, could I send it back? He
> said no problem, so I dove in for it. To be honest with you, the thing
> has been great. I got the little tripod that was an option, and set it
> up in a window pointing towards my barn. I set it up in Ad-Hoc mode,
> which was a little confusing at first, but once I got it working.....it
> has been a god-send. I am using no external antenna on my laptop, just
> n orinoco classic gold card, which I use for wardriving every now and
> then. I decided to take the new toy wardriving on my 50 mile drive
> from north dayton to cincinnati to my shop. I usually pick up between
> 210-225 AP's with my gold card and a 7dbi omi-directional antenna.
> Though it got a little tiring pointing left and right with the signal
> seeker, I picked up 529. A local truck stop has free Wi-Fi so I tried
> to see how far I could pick up the signal. After pulling out of the
> driveway of the truckstop, I stopped at a gas station .6 miles down the
> road according to my odometer. I pointed the signal seeker in the
> direction, and had no problem connecting. Well, thats my review in
> short. I know there has been a lot of bashing of this product on here,
> but since there was a return policy, I thought I would try. I am in no
> way offiliated with the product, just a happy customer/user.

Thanks. I've not seen bashing of the product, perhaps giving Ed some
static for making claims that sound sort of "veg-o-matic" in nature
maybe ... and for not providing measurable specs.

I wrote and asked about what if any management software comes with it
and who makes the radio, got a generic non-answer back.

Roger

I really am not sure WHAT the software is, but it is pretty good.
I think it is better then the windows zero wireless software. It find
my local AP and connects no problems. As far as the radio i
concerned, I cannot answer that either. I also wondered about the lac
of specs, but......the thing is working great for me, and couldn't b
happier. Its kind of nice it being USB and not having to worry abou
signal loss. I've got a 16ft cable, so I just run it out of m
computer room to the kitchen window and all is well

Kri

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Racer23

Does the USB part operate in RF Monitor mode ?



Stuart.

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 01:25:20 GMT, Racer23
<Racer23.1nekzm@WiFi-Forum_dot_com> wrote:

>I know there has been a lot of bashing of this product on here,
>but since there was a return policy, I thought I would try. I am in no
>way offiliated with the product, just a happy customer/user.

There's been little or no "bashing". My major complaint is that there
are no specifications. We know it's a USB radio and that it has some
kind of directional antenna. Beyond that, there's little to bash. My
issue is that the eBay web page shows promises of test and
specifications which have not materialized in several months. There
also doesn't seem to be an FCCID number. In short, you don't know
what you bought, only that it works for you. If there were some trade
secret involved that justified protecting analysis of the contents to
the point of it being sold as a sealed "black box", then perhaps
limiting the published specifications is justified. However, this is
apparently a simple 802.11g USB client, with a better than typical
antenna, and not some major technological innovation. I have bought
products without much evidence of performance and efficacy (i.e.
prescription medicine) in the past, and usually find myself
disappointed. Without the numbers, facts, and approvals, such
products are in my never humble opinion no better than snake oil.

The odd part is that the product actually does have some value and
could be sold on its own merits with proper specifications and type
certification. However, that would expose it to comparison with
comparable products. I don't know if such a comparison would be
favorable or worth the risk.

I'm still waiting for the test data and specifications before I
proceed with my traditional project bashing, er... evaluation.


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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

I just happened to see the post and appreciate anything good that was said.
I'm still not up to the production level we need to be yet. Maybe in a
couple weeks. And the bashers comparing the Signal Seeker to snake oil will
see in time that the product is what it is. People with the intelligence to
know what other units can do and then see that the Signal Seeker does it
better will be satisfied. As far as specification anyone that has done there
home work and done comparison and did an intelligent purchased has been more
than once disappointed. So like I said the proof is in the pudding time will
tell. Have Fun and have a Great Day.
Ed

"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 01:25:20 GMT, Racer23
> <Racer23.1nekzm@WiFi-Forum_dot_com> wrote:
>
>>I know there has been a lot of bashing of this product on here,
>>but since there was a return policy, I thought I would try. I am in no
>>way offiliated with the product, just a happy customer/user.
>
> There's been little or no "bashing". My major complaint is that there
> are no specifications. We know it's a USB radio and that it has some
> kind of directional antenna. Beyond that, there's little to bash. My
> issue is that the eBay web page shows promises of test and
> specifications which have not materialized in several months. There
> also doesn't seem to be an FCCID number. In short, you don't know
> what you bought, only that it works for you. If there were some trade
> secret involved that justified protecting analysis of the contents to
> the point of it being sold as a sealed "black box", then perhaps
> limiting the published specifications is justified. However, this is
> apparently a simple 802.11g USB client, with a better than typical
> antenna, and not some major technological innovation. I have bought
> products without much evidence of performance and efficacy (i.e.
> prescription medicine) in the past, and usually find myself
> disappointed. Without the numbers, facts, and approvals, such
> products are in my never humble opinion no better than snake oil.
>
> The odd part is that the product actually does have some value and
> could be sold on its own merits with proper specifications and type
> certification. However, that would expose it to comparison with
> comparable products. I don't know if such a comparison would be
> favorable or worth the risk.
>
> I'm still waiting for the test data and specifications before I
> proceed with my traditional project bashing, er... evaluation.
>
>
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> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

"Ed Williams" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>I just happened to see the post and appreciate anything good that was said.
>I'm still not up to the production level we need to be yet. Maybe in a

And you *still* won't release any real data.

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Floyd L. Davidson <http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) (E-Mail Removed)

Ed Williams wrote:
> I just happened to see the post and appreciate anything good that was said.
> I'm still not up to the production level we need to be yet. Maybe in a
> couple weeks. And the bashers comparing the Signal Seeker to snake oil will
> see in time that the product is what it is. People with the intelligence to
> know what other units can do and then see that the Signal Seeker does it
> better will be satisfied. As far as specification anyone that has done there
> home work and done comparison and did an intelligent purchased has been more
> than once disappointed. So like I said the proof is in the pudding time will
> tell. Have Fun and have a Great Day.
> Ed

Actually Ed, I'm on both sides of that fence. I think you should get
over being in love with the product long enough to rationally test and
describe it. In the meantime, I've even recommended that someone take a
look at your product in another very popular group. I might even buy one
myself because I think you have a pretty good idea, but your reluctance
to be objective is definitely off-putting.

R?g?r <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I wrote and asked about what if any management software comes with it
> and who makes the radio, got a generic non-answer back.

Generic SiS162 client utility.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:46:20 -0400, "Ed Williams"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I just happened to see the post and appreciate anything good that was said.
>I'm still not up to the production level we need to be yet. Maybe in a
>couple weeks.

Is that a couple of weeks for production quantities of product or for
the missing technical data and FCCID?

>And the bashers comparing the Signal Seeker to snake oil will
>see in time that the product is what it is.

I'm the one that compared it to being little better than snake oil
without specifications. If I offered to you a bottle of un-defined,
un-labelled, un-identified, and un-certified elixir, and suggested it
as a cure for everything from packet loss to co-channel interference,
would you buy it? In my never humble opinion, that's exactly what
you're doing. Show me the numbers.

>People with the intelligence to
>know what other units can do and then see that the Signal Seeker does it
>better will be satisfied.

Great. Here's your competitors USB radios with panel antennas.
http://www.hawkingtech.com/prodSpec.php?ProdID=208
http://www.ovislink.com.tw/5480usb-80.htm
http://www.moonblinkwifi.com/pd_usbant1.cfm
http://www.terabeam.com/downloads/sp...ts/usb-ant.pdf
Run some tests. Post some results. Numbers, not glittering
generalities. If you need help with the methods, hardware, and site
requirements necessary for testing, please email. Performance will
tend to be proportional to the antenna size, which is different in
each product. Still, it's possible to get an idea of how much
difference it makes from the test results.

>As far as specification anyone that has done there
>home work and done comparison and did an intelligent purchased has been more
>than once disappointed.

That doesn't make any sense. Please repair the grammar so I can
decode what you're talking about.

>So like I said the proof is in the pudding time will
>tell. Have Fun and have a Great Day.
>Ed

I'm not trying to prove anything, with or without the pudding. I'm
simply trying to get you to deliver on your perpetual promises of
performance specs and test results. Please remove your proof from the
pudding, wash it carefully, and present it for my target practice.


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