Sharing xp folders on XP using VISTA

Hello...

I Have a problem that even Microsoft Esculation departmen't cant seem to fix
at this time...

I have Windows XP professional with SP2 on an old slow desktop computer
connected via 100mb Ethernet Cable to a speedtouch DSL router.

I only have two compters on the network. The other computer is a brand new
Sony Vaio laptop with Window Vista Home Premium, with all service packs
applied. It is connected wireless via the SpeedTouch DSL Router.

The XP can Ping the Vista and the Vista can ping the XP. The XP can browse
all folders on the vista and open documents and all is well in that
direction.

The Vista can see the XP Computer and can see the shared folders on it as
well as the printers, but if you try to open the folders that you see, you
get an error message that says you probobly don't have the proper security
permissions. It hangs there for 3 or 4 minutes before it produces that
error.

Microsoft technicians in India did the following..

Turned off Simple file sharing in XP so now we can see the security and
sharing permissions tabs.

Took ownership of all shared folders and child objects.on XP.

Verifed that Group Everyone has full contril permissions to all shared
folders and child objects.

Inherited Permissions on the Advanced tab.

Turned off All the firewalls.
Turned off all Anti Virus programs

Changed the user name and password on the Vista box to match the user name
of the XP and changed both workgroup names to match each other.

Even after all of that, we still cannot see the child objects within shared
folders.

WE COULD see them on the same XP computer when we were using anohter XP box
versus the new Vista Box.

And I have don't this before at another cusztomers site without problems
using a Compaq Vista box with Vista Business Edition on it before.

Does anyone have any ideas what do do next?

Bikini Browser
San Juan Puerto Rico

Hmmmm, seems like they did everything correctly.

Try this. Go to the Local Security Settings in Administrative Tools for
both the XP and Vista machines.

Go to Local Policies --> Security Options.

Scroll down to "Network Security: LAN Manager Authentication Level".

Ensure that both the Vista and XP clients match up. Use "Send NTMLv2
response only".

Also ensure that "Network Access: Sharing and Security Model for local
accounts" is set to classic.


Bikini Browser wrote:
> Hello...
>
> I Have a problem that even Microsoft Esculation departmen't cant seem to fix
> at this time...
>
> I have Windows XP professional with SP2 on an old slow desktop computer
> connected via 100mb Ethernet Cable to a speedtouch DSL router.
>
> I only have two compters on the network. The other computer is a brand new
> Sony Vaio laptop with Window Vista Home Premium, with all service packs
> applied. It is connected wireless via the SpeedTouch DSL Router.
>
> The XP can Ping the Vista and the Vista can ping the XP. The XP can browse
> all folders on the vista and open documents and all is well in that
> direction.
>
> The Vista can see the XP Computer and can see the shared folders on it as
> well as the printers, but if you try to open the folders that you see, you
> get an error message that says you probobly don't have the proper security
> permissions. It hangs there for 3 or 4 minutes before it produces that
> error.
>
> Microsoft technicians in India did the following..
>
> Turned off Simple file sharing in XP so now we can see the security and
> sharing permissions tabs.
>
> Took ownership of all shared folders and child objects.on XP.
>
> Verifed that Group Everyone has full contril permissions to all shared
> folders and child objects.
>
> Inherited Permissions on the Advanced tab.
>
> Turned off All the firewalls.
> Turned off all Anti Virus programs
>
> Changed the user name and password on the Vista box to match the user name
> of the XP and changed both workgroup names to match each other.
>
> Even after all of that, we still cannot see the child objects within shared
> folders.
>
> WE COULD see them on the same XP computer when we were using anohter XP box
> versus the new Vista Box.
>
> And I have don't this before at another cusztomers site without problems
> using a Compaq Vista box with Vista Business Edition on it before.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas what do do next?
>
> Bikini Browser
> San Juan Puerto Rico
>
>
>
> .
>
>

The Vista Home Basic and Home Premium version do not have the secpol.msc.

Bikini Browser


"Sachin" <pmpmailbox-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hmmmm, seems like they did everything correctly.
>
> Try this. Go to the Local Security Settings in Administrative Tools for
> both the XP and Vista machines.
>
> Go to Local Policies --> Security Options.
>
> Scroll down to "Network Security: LAN Manager Authentication Level".
>
> Ensure that both the Vista and XP clients match up. Use "Send NTMLv2
> response only".
>
> Also ensure that "Network Access: Sharing and Security Model for local
> accounts" is set to classic.
>
>
> Bikini Browser wrote:
>> Hello...
>>
>> I Have a problem that even Microsoft Esculation departmen't cant seem to
>> fix at this time...
>>
>> I have Windows XP professional with SP2 on an old slow desktop computer
>> connected via 100mb Ethernet Cable to a speedtouch DSL router.
>>
>> I only have two compters on the network. The other computer is a brand
>> new Sony Vaio laptop with Window Vista Home Premium, with all service
>> packs applied. It is connected wireless via the SpeedTouch DSL Router.
>>
>> The XP can Ping the Vista and the Vista can ping the XP. The XP can
>> browse all folders on the vista and open documents and all is well in
>> that direction.
>>
>> The Vista can see the XP Computer and can see the shared folders on it as
>> well as the printers, but if you try to open the folders that you see,
>> you get an error message that says you probobly don't have the proper
>> security permissions. It hangs there for 3 or 4 minutes before it
>> produces that error.
>>
>> Microsoft technicians in India did the following..
>>
>> Turned off Simple file sharing in XP so now we can see the security and
>> sharing permissions tabs.
>>
>> Took ownership of all shared folders and child objects.on XP.
>>
>> Verifed that Group Everyone has full contril permissions to all shared
>> folders and child objects.
>>
>> Inherited Permissions on the Advanced tab.
>>
>> Turned off All the firewalls.
>> Turned off all Anti Virus programs
>>
>> Changed the user name and password on the Vista box to match the user
>> name of the XP and changed both workgroup names to match each other.
>>
>> Even after all of that, we still cannot see the child objects within
>> shared folders.
>>
>> WE COULD see them on the same XP computer when we were using anohter XP
>> box versus the new Vista Box.
>>
>> And I have don't this before at another cusztomers site without problems
>> using a Compaq Vista box with Vista Business Edition on it before.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas what do do next?
>>
>> Bikini Browser
>> San Juan Puerto Rico
>>
>>
>>
>> .

You are the best SACHIN...


I am trying for more than 3 weeks to find the right solution for my problem,
and with your suggestion... I succeed!!!


Let me expose my problem, so it can help others.


I have 2 PC, one Desktop with VISTA Ultimate and one Vaio Notebook with XP
Pro.
The 2 PC can see each others, the XP can browse the share of the Vista with
no problem. the Vista can see the XP pc in the network window but cannot
browse. (this is the problem of almost every one),


The difference is that if I run \\computername\share ,IT WORK!!
but if I run \\computername\ it don't work...I received the usual message...
windows cannot access.....bla.blab.bla. you may not have the
permission...bla.bla...



So I find a work around, I create a network drive and I inside, I create
shortcuts for ALL the folders share on my XP. It work fine but it is still a
work around.... So every day I was checking this discussion to see if
someone will come with a solution to my problem...



I read this post and after checking with "Network Security: LAN Manager
Authentication Level", I discover that the two PC was set on:"send LM and
NTLM - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated" so I changed the 2 PC to
"Send NTMLv2 response only".


The XP PC was set to "Guest Only" for "Network Access: Sharing and Security
Model for local accounts" so I changed it to "Private" ( I suppose that the
main problem was there...)



After changing this 2 settings, I can now access my XP PC from the Vista
network panel, or by running \\computername\





So I just want to say thanks again to SACHIN and hope that my experience can
save some (Vista) lives...



Claude (sorry for my bad English)





"Sachin" <pmpmailbox-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hmmmm, seems like they did everything correctly.
>
> Try this. Go to the Local Security Settings in Administrative Tools for
> both the XP and Vista machines.
>
> Go to Local Policies --> Security Options.
>
> Scroll down to "Network Security: LAN Manager Authentication Level".
>
> Ensure that both the Vista and XP clients match up. Use "Send NTMLv2
> response only".
>
> Also ensure that "Network Access: Sharing and Security Model for local
> accounts" is set to classic.
>
>
> Bikini Browser wrote:
>> Hello...
>>
>> I Have a problem that even Microsoft Esculation departmen't cant seem to
>> fix at this time...
>>
>> I have Windows XP professional with SP2 on an old slow desktop computer
>> connected via 100mb Ethernet Cable to a speedtouch DSL router.
>>
>> I only have two compters on the network. The other computer is a brand
>> new Sony Vaio laptop with Window Vista Home Premium, with all service
>> packs applied. It is connected wireless via the SpeedTouch DSL Router.
>>
>> The XP can Ping the Vista and the Vista can ping the XP. The XP can
>> browse all folders on the vista and open documents and all is well in
>> that direction.
>>
>> The Vista can see the XP Computer and can see the shared folders on it as
>> well as the printers, but if you try to open the folders that you see,
>> you get an error message that says you probobly don't have the proper
>> security permissions. It hangs there for 3 or 4 minutes before it
>> produces that error.
>>
>> Microsoft technicians in India did the following..
>>
>> Turned off Simple file sharing in XP so now we can see the security and
>> sharing permissions tabs.
>>
>> Took ownership of all shared folders and child objects.on XP.
>>
>> Verifed that Group Everyone has full contril permissions to all shared
>> folders and child objects.
>>
>> Inherited Permissions on the Advanced tab.
>>
>> Turned off All the firewalls.
>> Turned off all Anti Virus programs
>>
>> Changed the user name and password on the Vista box to match the user
>> name of the XP and changed both workgroup names to match each other.
>>
>> Even after all of that, we still cannot see the child objects within
>> shared folders.
>>
>> WE COULD see them on the same XP computer when we were using anohter XP
>> box versus the new Vista Box.
>>
>> And I have don't this before at another cusztomers site without problems
>> using a Compaq Vista box with Vista Business Edition on it before.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas what do do next?
>>
>> Bikini Browser
>> San Juan Puerto Rico
>>
>>
>>
>> .

Ok. Then do the registry edit for the vista client and the console
edit for XP.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\LSA\

Change the key LmCompatibilityLevel from "3" to "1".

Check out http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239869 for details.

You are very welcome. Good to know i could help.

Simplest solution:
Take Sony notebook.
Backup all needed files.
Reformat hard drive.
Install Windows XP.
Voila: all problems solved. You can actually do work instead of futzing with
a defective OS.

flambe wrote:
> Simplest solution:
> Take Sony notebook.
> Backup all needed files.
> Reformat hard drive.
> Install Windows XP.
> Voila: all problems solved. You can actually do work instead of futzing with
> a defective OS.
>
>
hehehe...obviously you have been "mastered" by Vista...LOL!
Frank

Are you saying that Sony can be the problem here?


BB



"flambe" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:bBolj.90$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Simplest solution:
> Take Sony notebook.
> Backup all needed files.
> Reformat hard drive.
> Install Windows XP.
> Voila: all problems solved. You can actually do work instead of futzing
> with a defective OS.
>

FYI:

I did your steps but I was not successful. However I also tryed this and
had some amount of success...

I created a TEST folder on the XP and then I shared it and gave it all
permissions. Then I created a text file in that folder. Then I went to the
vista computer and I was actually able to open the file. Thats the first
time I could do that.

Then I copied two smalll files from Vista to the new Test folder on XP and
that worked too.

But when I try to open those files, it times out.

It seems to act like there are too many files on my production shared folder
and perhaps the XP is so slow it times out on the Vista before it finishes
seeing the folder tree...?? Can it be something like that?

BB
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:1e10842e-eb90-4fe8-9dd2-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Ok. Then do the registry edit for the vista client and the console
> edit for XP.
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\LSA\
>
> Change the key LmCompatibilityLevel from "3" to "1".
>
> Check out http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239869 for details.