Sharing Internet with Neighbours

Here's my setup:

In summary, I'm trying to get 3 houses sharing the same internet connection.

Let's refer to me as House #1
My Neighbour ( 1 house over ) is House #2
My Neighbour ( 2 houses over ) is House #3

House #1 has the Internet connection -> Cable Modem -> which connects to a
wireless Router/Access point (Linksys WRT54G)

- House #1 connects to the wireless router/access point -> Internet, no
problem
- House #2 is able to connect to my wireless router/access point ->
Internet, no problem
- House #3 gets no signal so cannot connect to my wireless router/access
point.

House #3 bought a wireless Access point and would like to know how to
connect it to House #1. Here's some of my questions:

- I'm assuming the access point goes into House #2, correct?
- Can the Access point connect to my Router/Access point wirelessly OR does
it require a physical connection using CAT-5 cables?


Thanks a bunch.

brian wrote:

> In summary, I'm trying to get 3 houses sharing the same internet
> connection.
>

Better check the contract with the ISP first. Many take a dim view of such
sharing.

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you probably need a better antenna
"brian" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> Here's my setup:
>
> In summary, I'm trying to get 3 houses sharing the same internet
connection.
>
> Let's refer to me as House #1
> My Neighbour ( 1 house over ) is House #2
> My Neighbour ( 2 houses over ) is House #3
>
> House #1 has the Internet connection -> Cable Modem -> which connects to a
> wireless Router/Access point (Linksys WRT54G)
>
> - House #1 connects to the wireless router/access point -> Internet, no
> problem
> - House #2 is able to connect to my wireless router/access point ->
> Internet, no problem
> - House #3 gets no signal so cannot connect to my wireless router/access
> point.
>
> House #3 bought a wireless Access point and would like to know how to
> connect it to House #1. Here's some of my questions:
>
> - I'm assuming the access point goes into House #2, correct?
> - Can the Access point connect to my Router/Access point wirelessly OR
does
> it require a physical connection using CAT-5 cables?
>
>
> Thanks a bunch.
>
>
>

If at all possible try to aim the wifi signal trough windows between houses
1 and 3.

If house 3 can't get signal, and assuming hose 2 is nearer to it, you could
set up an AP configured as a repeater at house 2. Note that very few AP's
work as repeaters, (Dlink AP-900 does) and that the repeater will slow down
the connection.

You might be better off investing in external and /or directional (possibly
outdoors) antennas in houses 1 and 3.
Regards,
Martin

Assuming house 2 is in the middle, why not have #2 get the ISP connection
and then just transmit one house away - in each direction?


"Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> If at all possible try to aim the wifi signal trough windows between
houses
> 1 and 3.
>
> If house 3 can't get signal, and assuming hose 2 is nearer to it, you
could
> set up an AP configured as a repeater at house 2. Note that very few AP's
> work as repeaters, (Dlink AP-900 does) and that the repeater will slow
down
> the connection.
>
> You might be better off investing in external and /or directional
(possibly
> outdoors) antennas in houses 1 and 3.
> Regards,
> Martin
>
>

Len, et al,

Logical solution. This is a very interesting problem, encompassing a lot of
issues: legality, equipment types, commercialism, antennas, access points.

The repeater issue fascinates me, as I am wondering whether an access point
(mine is Linksys WAP11) would be better used from a hub which carried the
signal from the original router (Siemens Speed Stream, which was a subnet
router from a 3COM wired router), or from a pc which had a wireless signal.
Probably makes no difference, but I am wondering why an Access Point used as
a repeater would slow down a signal...?

Also, the original poster didn't mention anything about how he is separating
his public wireless signal from his home network.

--Ray B


"Len West" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Assuming house 2 is in the middle, why not have #2 get the ISP connection
> and then just transmit one house away - in each direction?
>
>
> "Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:zRKJb.8758$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > If at all possible try to aim the wifi signal trough windows between
> houses
> > 1 and 3.
> >
> > If house 3 can't get signal, and assuming hose 2 is nearer to it, you
> could
> > set up an AP configured as a repeater at house 2. Note that very few
AP's
> > work as repeaters, (Dlink AP-900 does) and that the repeater will slow
> down
> > the connection.
> >
> > You might be better off investing in external and /or directional
> (possibly
> > outdoors) antennas in houses 1 and 3.
> > Regards,
> > Martin
> >
> >
>
>

"Ray Bacon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Len, et al,
>
> Logical solution. This is a very interesting problem, encompassing a lot
of
> issues: legality, equipment types, commercialism, antennas, access
points.
>
> The repeater issue fascinates me, as I am wondering whether an access
point
> (mine is Linksys WAP11) would be better used from a hub which carried the
> signal from the original router (Siemens Speed Stream, which was a subnet
> router from a 3COM wired router), or from a pc which had a wireless
signal.
> Probably makes no difference, but I am wondering why an Access Point used
as
> a repeater would slow down a signal...?

The slowdown for a repeater is due to the topology.

A repeater takes packets off air, and then copies them back out - usually on
the same wifi interface (a single channel repeater). so every packet crosses
the wireless link twice. This means that you get 1/2 the available
bandwidth, as each packet goes twice.

In practice i suspect you loose a bit more, as you add more timing gaps and
potential contention to slow things down further.

If you want more bandwidth, then an AP and a wireless bridge linked by
Ethernet and on different channels should improve things.
>
> Also, the original poster didn't mention anything about how he is
separating
> his public wireless signal from his home network.

Given that he is using a single central router / AP - he isnt.
>
> --Ray B
>
>
> "Len West" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:tALJb.22250$(E-Mail Removed) ...
> > Assuming house 2 is in the middle, why not have #2 get the ISP
connection
> > and then just transmit one house away - in each direction?
> >
> >
> > "Martin²" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:zRKJb.8758$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > If at all possible try to aim the wifi signal trough windows between
> > houses
> > > 1 and 3.
> > >
> > > If house 3 can't get signal, and assuming hose 2 is nearer to it, you
> > could
> > > set up an AP configured as a repeater at house 2. Note that very few
> AP's
> > > work as repeaters, (Dlink AP-900 does) and that the repeater will slow
> > down
> > > the connection.
> > >
> > > You might be better off investing in external and /or directional
> > (possibly
> > > outdoors) antennas in houses 1 and 3.
> > > Regards,
> > > Martin
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