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Count de Monet
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      11-07-2010, 09:05 AM
I have been asked by a neighbour (who I trust) if he could share my
broadband connection and contribute towards the monthly cost.

His connection would be via wireless.

Would it be possible to open my router to give him an internet
connection without him having access to shared folders on my home network?

My router is a BT Home Hub BT2700HGV running SingTel 5.29.117.3
firmware. If this is not possible with this router can anyone suggest
another one that will?

I suppose I'm asking for a router that has two separate wireless
log-in's if this is possible.


Rgds



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Dave Saville
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      11-07-2010, 10:58 AM
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:05:06 UTC, Count de Monet
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> I have been asked by a neighbour (who I trust) if he could share my
> broadband connection and contribute towards the monthly cost.
>
> His connection would be via wireless.
>
> Would it be possible to open my router to give him an internet
> connection without him having access to shared folders on my home network?
>


I *think* Windows needs machines to be in the same workgroup for them
to see shares.

> My router is a BT Home Hub BT2700HGV running SingTel 5.29.117.3
> firmware. If this is not possible with this router can anyone suggest
> another one that will?


Do you use your wireless? On a decent router you could possibly set
him up on a different subnet - which would also solve your share
problem. Routers running OpenWRT can do more than one wfif at once.

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The Natural Philosopher
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      11-07-2010, 11:21 AM
Dave Saville wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:05:06 UTC, Count de Monet
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
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>> I have been asked by a neighbour (who I trust) if he could share my
>> broadband connection and contribute towards the monthly cost.
>>
>> His connection would be via wireless.
>>
>> Would it be possible to open my router to give him an internet
>> connection without him having access to shared folders on my home network?
>>

>
> I *think* Windows needs machines to be in the same workgroup for them
> to see shares.


Its not as simple as that.

He may not be able to browse them, but he sure could connect to them.


>
>> My router is a BT Home Hub BT2700HGV running SingTel 5.29.117.3
>> firmware. If this is not possible with this router can anyone suggest
>> another one that will?

>
> Do you use your wireless? On a decent router you could possibly set
> him up on a different subnet - which would also solve your share
> problem. Routers running OpenWRT can do more than one wfif at once.
>


That's a way to go, for sure. Or assign his machines to a (group of)
fixed IP addresses and firewall them out from your machines.


> HTH

 
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Count de Monet
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      11-07-2010, 05:36 PM

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> Would it be easier to isolate him by using a second WiFi wireless access
> point connected to the router for yourself or him?
>
> Just hope that he does not start visiting dodgy websites or sending
> messages on behalf of terrorists :-)
>
>
>
>


I think a second access point is the way I prefer. I've a spare Netgear
DG834G router can anyone guide me through setting this up as a second
wireless network.

I take your point on the dodgy surfing etc



 
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The Natural Philosopher
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      11-07-2010, 05:59 PM
Count de Monet wrote:
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Would it be easier to isolate him by using a second WiFi wireless access
>> point connected to the router for yourself or him?
>>
>> Just hope that he does not start visiting dodgy websites or sending
>> messages on behalf of terrorists :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> I think a second access point is the way I prefer. I've a spare Netgear
> DG834G router can anyone guide me through setting this up as a second
> wireless network.
>


I think reset its (the slave wireless router) IP address to another
network, (say 192.168.10.0) and tell your *main* router that its
interface netmask is 255.255.0,.0 (LAN SETUP)

Now provided the slave router has its netmask as default, the neighbors
nmachines wont be able to contact yours.

Then you need to set the default route on the slave router to be the IP
address of the main router. Hmm. That may not work without opening up
the netmask on the slave. Bugger.

The problem is that the netgear routes via ADSL, but its not set to
route via ethernet Neither does its firewall sit between ethernet
segments..only between WAN and ethernet.

You really need a cable router..one with a WAN Ethernet port.

I cant see a way to do it with just a pair of DSL wireless netgears.



> I take your point on the dodgy surfing etc
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      11-07-2010, 10:22 PM

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>
> Given that your neighbour can get his own broadband connection for £6.49
> per month from Plusnet I would suggest that was much more sensible and would
> mean no responsibility for you.
>
>
> Peter Crosland
>
>


He is due to move in the next six months and did not want to be tied to
a lengthy contract. He has a 3G dongle with 3 but the signal here is
poor and he has to resort to dangling his dongle out of the window (ooer
missus) to get a signal. He thinks it would be easier in the short time
left to connect to my network but I'm not happy that he could have
access to my networked PC's
 
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      11-08-2010, 01:56 AM
Count de Monet wrote:
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>>
>> Given that your neighbour can get his own broadband connection for £6.49
>> per month from Plusnet I would suggest that was much more sensible and
>> would
>> mean no responsibility for you.
>>
>>
>> Peter Crosland
>>
>>

>
> He is due to move in the next six months and did not want to be tied to
> a lengthy contract. He has a 3G dongle with 3 but the signal here is
> poor and he has to resort to dangling his dongle out of the window (ooer
> missus) to get a signal. He thinks it would be easier in the short time
> left to connect to my network but I'm not happy that he could have
> access to my networked PC's

well he should buy a wireless capable twin Ethernet cable router then.

And if he says 'don't you trust me' the standard answer is 'I don't want
to have to trust you'.
 
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      11-08-2010, 06:01 AM
On 07/11/10 10:05, Count de Monet wrote:
> I have been asked by a neighbour (who I trust) if he could share my
> broadband connection and contribute towards the monthly cost.
>
> His connection would be via wireless.
>
> Would it be possible to open my router to give him an internet
> connection without him having access to shared folders on my home network?


That depends on the security on your home network.

The first assumption you should make is that your wireless network
security is easily compromised by anyone who can be bothered to invest a
few hours in searching for the means to do it.

Now, given that your wireless network security is compromised, how happy
are you that your machine level security will prevent unauthorised
access to data that you consider sensitive?

The only secure wireless network is a disabled one, which is why I have
no wireless routers connected to my home network.

Rgds

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      11-08-2010, 09:50 AM
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 10:05:06 +0000, Count de Monet
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I have been asked by a neighbour (who I trust) if he could share my
>broadband connection and contribute towards the monthly cost.
>
>His connection would be via wireless.
>
>Would it be possible to open my router to give him an internet
>connection without him having access to shared folders on my home network?
>
>My router is a BT Home Hub BT2700HGV running SingTel 5.29.117.3
>firmware. If this is not possible with this router can anyone suggest
>another one that will?
>
>I suppose I'm asking for a router that has two separate wireless
>log-in's if this is possible.



I should check your ISP's T&Cs. many don't permit sharing as you
intend.

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The Natural Philosopher
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      11-08-2010, 10:55 AM
Denis McMahon wrote:
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>
> The only secure wireless network is a disabled one,


The only secure network is a disabled one actually.

Just as the only guranteed virus fee computer is one that has never been
switched on.

Risk is relative.

Stop talking in tabloid terms.
 
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