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royc
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      05-16-2006, 07:51 AM

i have a netgear dg834g adsl router that works
fine, some rooms a low on signal, so i got 2
wg602v3's access points, without setup cd's.

my questions are

1. do i use the same ssid on all 3 units?

2. do i use the same channel on all 3 units

3. the 2 access points have the sane ip address,
(192.168.0.277), this is factory set, do i change
one of them?

4. i move laptops from room to room, if there are
3 different channels & ssid's used, how do the
laptops know to pick-up the strongest signal
access point?

regards
confused roy


 
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John Navas
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      05-16-2006, 01:45 PM
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In <(E-Mail Removed)> on Tue, 16 May 2006 08:51:52 +0100,
"royc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>i have a netgear dg834g adsl router that works
>fine, some rooms a low on signal, so i got 2
>wg602v3's access points, without setup cd's.


Are these wired to the DG834G, or configured as repeaters? (Wired is best.)

>my questions are
>
>1. do i use the same ssid on all 3 units?


Pro: Allows your clients to automatically select a wireless host.
Con: Can't select or favor a given wireless host.

>2. do i use the same channel on all 3 units


Wired: Different non-overlapping channels (1, 6, 11)
Repeaters: Same channel.

>3. the 2 access points have the sane ip address,
>(192.168.0.277), this is factory set, do i change
>one of them?


All units should have unique IP addresses.

>4. i move laptops from room to room, if there are
>3 different channels & ssid's used, how do the
>laptops know to pick-up the strongest signal
>access point?


They probably don't; i.e., they'll probably hang on to the same wireless host
unless forced to change (e.g., by complete loss of signal).

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      05-16-2006, 02:38 PM

"John Navas" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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> [POSTED TO alt.internet.wireless - REPLY ON

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> In <(E-Mail Removed)> on

Tue, 16 May 2006 08:51:52 +0100,
> "royc" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >i have a netgear dg834g adsl router that works
> >fine, some rooms a low on signal, so i got 2
> >wg602v3's access points, without setup cd's.

>
> Are these wired to the DG834G, or configured as

repeaters? (Wired is best.)
>
> >my questions are
> >
> >1. do i use the same ssid on all 3 units?

>
> Pro: Allows your clients to automatically

select a wireless host.
> Con: Can't select or favor a given wireless

host.
>
> >2. do i use the same channel on all 3 units

>
> Wired: Different non-overlapping channels (1,

6, 11)
> Repeaters: Same channel.
>
> >3. the 2 access points have the sane ip

address,
> >(192.168.0.277), this is factory set, do i

change
> >one of them?

>
> All units should have unique IP addresses.
>
> >4. i move laptops from room to room, if there

are
> >3 different channels & ssid's used, how do the
> >laptops know to pick-up the strongest signal
> >access point?

>
> They probably don't; i.e., they'll probably hang

on to the same wireless host
> unless forced to change (e.g., by complete loss

of signal).
>
> --
> Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR

ALT.INTERNET.WIRELESS AT
> John Navas

<http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/FAQ_for_alt.internet
..wireless>


thanx, that answers some of my questions

roy


 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      05-16-2006, 03:38 PM
"royc" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>i have a netgear dg834g adsl router that works
>fine, some rooms a low on signal, so i got 2
>wg602v3's access points, without setup cd's.
>
>my questions are
>
>1. do i use the same ssid on all 3 units?


I'm assuming you have them wired together with ethernet cable.

If you want to try roaming between access points, you use the same
SSID. If you want to manually select which access point you're
connecting to, you use different SSID's.

>2. do i use the same channel on all 3 units


If the access points can hear each other, then they can interfere with
each other. I would use different channels (1, 6, or 11) to avoid any
interference.

>3. the 2 access points have the sane ip address,
>(192.168.0.277), this is factory set, do i change
>one of them?


Yes. They should be on the same subnet 192.168.0.xxx as the DG834G,
but with different IP's. The IP's are used strictly for managment and
configuration. Make sure the IP's you select are NOT within the DHCP
server address pool of the DG834g.

You do NOT need the setup CD. There are no "drivers" on the CD. Just
point your web browser to the IP address of the access point and
configure it manually.

>4. i move laptops from room to room, if there are
>3 different channels & ssid's used, how do the
>laptops know to pick-up the strongest signal
>access point?


Seamless roaming is not commonly available at this time without
proprietary protocols. It really depends on your client computers
wireless driver and not anything in the access points. Most clients
will tenaciously retain a connection long past the point where it
should have given up and searched for a better connection. It's not
unusual to retain a connection from a distant access point, while
standing in front of a much stronger one. Note that this assumes the
same SSID for all the access points involved. Roaming will not work
between different SSID's.

It doesn't matter what channel you select. When the bit error rate or
signal level deteriorates to the point where the client software
finally decides that it's time to roam, the client will scan for the
same SSID on all the channels. The AP's can be on the same channel,
or different channels. It doesn't matter. However, they have to be
on the same SSID.

Unfortunately, most client do a miserable job of seamless roaming.
You'll probably find that you have to manually disconnect, search for
a new connection, and manually select the new connection.

See:
| ftp://download.intel.com/business/bs...nt/hotspot.pdf
There's a section in there somewhere on channel and SSID selection
(with the usual illustration of hexagonal "cells"). Although it's
titled "Wireless Hotspot Deployment Guide", it really covers much of
what's involved in setting up a conglomeration of wireless access
points and wireless networking.

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      05-16-2006, 07:24 PM
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In <(E-Mail Removed)> on Tue, 16 May 2006 08:38:19
-0700, Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"royc" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>i have a netgear dg834g adsl router that works
>>fine, some rooms a low on signal, so i got 2
>>wg602v3's access points, without setup cd's.
>>
>>my questions are
>>
>>1. do i use the same ssid on all 3 units?

>
>I'm assuming you have them wired together with ethernet cable.
>
>If you want to try roaming between access points, you use the same
>SSID. If you want to manually select which access point you're
>connecting to, you use different SSID's.


If you use different SSIDs in all three wireless hosts, Windows XP still
allows you to establish a specific priority scheme for those wireless hosts on
each client computer and automatically connect to the first available wireless
host in the priority scheme. This can come in handy -- for example, I use it
in a certain public library to favor the wireless host that generally works
best for me.

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