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Gary Kelman
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      11-25-2005, 08:14 PM
Okay...at the moment I have a PC wired to a modem/router on ADSL. All is
fine. I have recently purchased a WAP for use with my Nintendo DS. The set
up I want is to keep the PC wired to the router and have the WAP, wired to
the router, to be used exclusively for my DS. I will not be connecting to my
router wirelessly with my PC.

Something like this
phoneline
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PC-----Modem/Router----WAP

Now, I know how to change the settings on my WAP (by attaching to the PC via
USB), and I know how to change settings on my router. However, I don't know
what I want to change the settings to, to be able to wirelessly share my
broadband connection. Like I have a vague idea that certain values are
supposed to match but I have no idea which ones. Can anyone help me out, or
point my browser at a good website to help.

I got Mario Kart DS today, and I really want to get that badboy online.

Thanks for any help
Gary


 
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      11-25-2005, 08:30 PM
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>Okay...at the moment I have a PC wired to a modem/router on ADSL. All is
>fine. I have recently purchased a WAP for use with my Nintendo DS. The set
>up I want is to keep the PC wired to the router and have the WAP, wired to
>the router, to be used exclusively for my DS.


Your setup is fine - same as mine.

>Now, I know how to change the settings on my WAP (by attaching to the PC via
>USB), and I know how to change settings on my router. However, I don't know
>what I want to change the settings to, to be able to wirelessly share my
>broadband connection.


Leave the router as it is. Change the IP/Subnet/DNS of your WAP to fit in
with your network[1], or let it act as a DHCP client if it can. DON'T
configure it as a DHCP *server* if your router already does that job (likely).

Also, make sure your WAP has no protection or has WEP activated, with a
visible SSID. Hidden SSIDs and/or WPA won't work with your DS.

>I got Mario Kart DS today, and I really want to get that badboy online.


My friend code is 189 038 365 126 if you want it

[1] e.g. if your router is 192.168.1.1, your WAP should be 192.168.1.x where x
is not already in use by your PC. Subnet and DNS will be shown in your router
config.

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Gary Kelman
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      11-25-2005, 10:24 PM

"deKay" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Leave the router as it is. Change the IP/Subnet/DNS of your WAP to fit in
> with your network[1], or let it act as a DHCP client if it can. DON'T
> configure it as a DHCP *server* if your router already does that job
> (likely).
>
> Also, make sure your WAP has no protection or has WEP activated, with a
> visible SSID. Hidden SSIDs and/or WPA won't work with your DS.
>
>
> My friend code is 189 038 365 126 if you want it
>
> deKay


Thank you. I've got it all set up. Great.

I've added your friend code. See you out there....

Mine is 098 844 297 708.

Gary


 
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Alex Fraser
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      11-26-2005, 08:04 AM
"deKay" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Leave the router as it is. Change the IP/Subnet/DNS of your WAP to fit
> in with your network[1], or let it act as a DHCP client if it can.


If the WAP doesn't have a known address, then it's a bit hard to do any
configuration. So being a DHCP client isn't generally a good idea.

Alex


 
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Gary Kelman
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      11-26-2005, 05:43 PM

"Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> If the WAP doesn't have a known address, then it's a bit hard to do any
> configuration. So being a DHCP client isn't generally a good idea.
>
> Alex


What do you mean 'isn't a good idea'. It's all up and running like I wanted
and I have set it as a DHCP cilent. Is there some reason why I don't want
this? I have WEP activated for security...if that's got anything to do with
anything...? (yes, this is my first experience with wireless anything)

Thanks
Gary


 
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      11-26-2005, 08:32 PM
"Gary Kelman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > If the WAP doesn't have a known address, then it's a bit hard to do any
> > configuration. So being a DHCP client isn't generally a good idea.

>
> What do you mean 'isn't a good idea'. It's all up and running like I
> wanted and I have set it as a DHCP cilent. Is there some reason why I
> don't want this?


Yes, the reason I gave: you can't modify the AP's configuration if you don't
know its address. In general, you can't know the address if the address is
configured by DHCP.

Alex


 
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Gary Kelman
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      11-26-2005, 08:57 PM

"Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Yes, the reason I gave: you can't modify the AP's configuration if you
> don't
> know its address. In general, you can't know the address if the address is
> configured by DHCP.
>
> Alex
>


But if I have it all set up (my DS is connecting and playing games online)
why would I need to modify anything?

Gary


 
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      11-27-2005, 10:18 AM
On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:32:44 -0000, "Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>"Gary Kelman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> "Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > If the WAP doesn't have a known address, then it's a bit hard to do any
>> > configuration. So being a DHCP client isn't generally a good idea.

>>
>> What do you mean 'isn't a good idea'. It's all up and running like I
>> wanted and I have set it as a DHCP cilent. Is there some reason why I
>> don't want this?

>
>Yes, the reason I gave: you can't modify the AP's configuration if you don't
>know its address. In general, you can't know the address if the address is
>configured by DHCP.
>

Not really relevant, but I use pre-defined addresses within DHCP to
set addresses. This allows DHCP to set other things - gateway, dns etc
- whilst fixing the IP address. Also makes it much easier if you are
forced to change the network address by "someone higher up" for odd
reasons!

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      11-27-2005, 01:05 PM
"Gary Kelman" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > Yes, the reason I gave: you can't modify the AP's configuration if you
> > don't know its address. In general, you can't know the address if the
> > address is configured by DHCP.

>
> But if I have it all set up (my DS is connecting and playing games
> online) why would I need to modify anything?


You might for instance want to change the channel because of interference,
or change encryption settings, or use MAC filtering, or...

IMO the "why" isn't really the point; that the possibility exists is reason
enough.

Alex


 
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      11-27-2005, 01:06 PM
"PeeGee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:32:44 -0000, "Alex Fraser" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:

[snip]
> >Yes, the reason I gave: you can't modify the AP's configuration if you
> >don't know its address. In general, you can't know the address if the
> >address is configured by DHCP.

>
> Not really relevant, but I use pre-defined addresses within DHCP to
> set addresses. This allows DHCP to set other things - gateway, dns etc
> - whilst fixing the IP address.


Yeah, that's a useful feature (particularly for larger installations); it
centralises IP configuration. Exactly what I had in mind when I wrote "In
general, ..."

Alex


 
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