Setting up two separate networks on two routers on one Network?

Here is a diagram. Cut and paste it into a notepad or other mono
spacing editor.

It goes through walls and floors and building. I have not listed that.
There is actually another device in front of the DHCP router. Thats
provided by the phone company, presumably a dsl device. Not mine I
dont mess with it.

You can see its a mess. But thats what happens when someone says hay
this internet thing lets get a computer and then someone else says hay
thats neat lets get a router, then we have a teacher who had a phd in
computer science and says you need a server with active directories
and databases yadda yadda yadda. You keep adding and before you know
it its a mess of wires and stuff. He's gone and someone else has to
pick up the pieces.


Regards
steve.






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Here is a diagram. Cut and paste it into a notepad or other mono
spacing editor.

It goes through walls and floors and building. I have not listed that.
There is actually another device in front of the DHCP router. Thats
provided by the phone company, presumably a dsl device. Not mine I
dont mess with it.

You can see its a mess. But thats what happens when someone says hay
this internet thing lets get a computer and then someone else says hay
thats neat lets get a router, then we have a teacher who had a phd in
computer science and says you need a server with active directories
and databases yadda yadda yadda. You keep adding and before you know
it its a mess of wires and stuff. He's gone and someone else has to
pick up the pieces.

Regards
steve.

I hope this diagram works.


DMZ - World
.-------.
A|NatRout|DHCP
'---o---'

| .--------.
o----------------------
o----------------------------------------| Switch |
|
| | 1 |
| SOME RESIDENT
| 'o-------'
| STUDENTS PICK UP |
ACEDEMIC | |
| THIS SIGNAL |
OFFICES | #-2003 Server
C| () |
o---------------o | Active Dir
/\/\/\/ |
| |
| NWFR | ADMIN |
| | 3
o\o\/o/ OFFICE | |
2 .-------.
| | |
o .-------. |Switch|
| | | # |
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| | | 'o-o-o-
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| |
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'---o---'

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|
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| SOME RESIDENT
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| STUDENTS PICK UP |
ACEDEMIC | |
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View with courier font in notepad.

Hopefully it will work.

As you cna see its pretty messy to try to divide up. It goes through
walls and floors etc. And there isnt much space where existing wires
are. That what happens when someone says hey lets try this internet
thing and it keeps expanding.

What I really want to do is create two networks one that is for the
students and one that is for the staff/faculty/office.

Regards

Rats.

Thanks ken.

Strangely I cut and pasted and it worked. But those darn auto wrapping
things in the news groups and in notepad sometimes screw things up.

Thanks for your diagram. Your solution is the cleanest and best. Part
of my problem is the fact that the network already exists. And its
pretty much like a tree eg it starts at the trunk where the signal
comes in and then brances off in all directions. Each brance has
routers and switchs and wifi. To set up the network in your
configuration really means re wireing a second cable to all the places
that need wifi access. Perhaps not an impossible feat but none the
less strenuous.


Regards and thank you.