setting up a home network

I have two computers, they both hook up to a router to go to the internet,
one is wired the other is wireless. how can I get them to see each other on
the network so I can share files and the printer? They have the same
"workgroup" but they do not see each other. What do I need to do?

"Tom E" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> disable ALL Firewalls and security software's on both comps.

Rubbish. I've NEVER had to do that....

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>I have two computers, they both hook up to a router to go to the internet,
> one is wired the other is wireless. how can I get them to see each other
> on
> the network so I can share files and the printer? They have the same
> "workgroup" but they do not see each other. What do I need to do?


Run the New Network utility on both machines.
You may need to re-boot.

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"Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Tom E" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> disable ALL Firewalls and security software's on both comps.
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> Rubbish. I've NEVER had to do that....
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Then it is your security software that is 'rubbish'. Unless you
specifically set security software (firewalls) to allow 'networking' then
incoming and outgoing communications are blocked. Tom E's advice is
perfectly sound.

"Edward W. Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>> disable ALL Firewalls and security software's on both comps.
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>> Rubbish. I've NEVER had to do that....
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> Then it is your security software that is 'rubbish'. Unless you
> specifically set security software (firewalls) to allow 'networking' then
> incoming and outgoing communications are blocked. Tom E's advice is
> perfectly sound.
>


You don't need to edit the firewall settings AT ALL. The Windows Firewall is
automatically configured to allow LAN connections.
And my security is NOT rubbish, I've never been hacked in my life.
Using the built-in Windows firewall behind a NATS router is perfectly
adequate security.
You obviously are either completely paranoid or don't know what you are
talking about, or both.

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> "Edward W. Thompson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> "Gordon" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>>> disable ALL Firewalls and security software's on both comps.
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>>> Rubbish. I've NEVER had to do that....
>>>
>> snip
>> Then it is your security software that is 'rubbish'. Unless you
>> specifically set security software (firewalls) to allow 'networking' then
>> incoming and outgoing communications are blocked. Tom E's advice is
>> perfectly sound.
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> thank you Ed.....I did get a little peed off with his statement. I have
> always had to adjust Windows Firewall, Norton or Kaspersky in one way or
> another to permit sharing.
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Well I have NOT. EVER. Windows Firewall is AUTOMATICALLY configured for LAN
access if you just run the New Network wizard.
If you run third party firewall apps (and IMHO as a recently retired Systems
Accountant you don't need to if you run behind a NATS router) then yes you
do need to. Your choice.

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> "mark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>I have two computers, they both hook up to a router to go to the internet,
>> one is wired the other is wireless. how can I get them to see each other
>> on
>> the network so I can share files and the printer? They have the same
>> "workgroup" but they do not see each other. What do I need to do?
>>
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> 1. Ignore Gordon, he is full of NATS P.

Got your foil hat on today?

> 2. http://support.microsoft.com:80/?kbid=318030

Hoist by your own petard. That KB article does NOT say "disable the
firewall".
And in fact the New Network wizard does what that KB says using a GUI.

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Hi
If the two computers can use the Internet through the Router then you need
to configure File and Printer Sharing and you would have a LAN.
Make sure that the Software Firewall on each computer allows free local
traffic. If you use 3rd party Firewall On, Vista/XP Native Firewall should
be Off, and the active Firewall has to adjusted to your Network IP numbers
on what is some time called the Trusted Zone (consult your 3rd Party
Firewall instructions).
Even if you switch the Firewalls Off, make sure that the Trusted Zone and
exceptions are configured correctly.
http://www.ezlan.net/faq.html#trusted
Make sure that what you are trying to share in Vista is indeed is sharable.
Some folders for security reason would not share.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"mark" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have two computers, they both hook up to a router to go to the internet,
> one is wired the other is wireless. how can I get them to see each other
> on
> the network so I can share files and the printer? They have the same
> "workgroup" but they do not see each other. What do I need to do?