setting up a bridge

Hi,

I would like to set up a bridge between two ethernet cards
under windows ME (and not internet connetion sharing).
Unfortunately this does not seem to exist (or it's really
well hidden).

thanks for your help,

Antoine

In article <163eb01c41eee$57a5a620$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Antoine
Cellerier" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I would like to set up a bridge between two ethernet cards
>under windows ME (and not internet connetion sharing).
>Unfortunately this does not seem to exist (or it's really
>well hidden).
>
>thanks for your help,
>
>Antoine

Windows ME doesn't have a bridging capability (but Windows XP does).
Why do you want to bridge the two cards? Perhaps there's another way
to accomplish the same goal.
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My network is layed out as followed:

________ \
[ISP] ---{PC1}---|Switch|---{PC2} |
|______| | in the basement
| |
| |
Powerline /
/
\
/
Powerline \
| |
| |
{PC3} | 2nd floor
? |
? |
{PC4} /

What i want to do is extend my network (that means what
is connected to the switch) to the 2nd ethernet card of
PC3 so that PC4 can access the network as if it were
plugged in to the switch.
This could also be done by buying another switch (i'd
rather not) or installing linux on PC3 (which would
prevent members of my family from using it). Installing
windows XP is not an option since it would'nt run (pii
266MHz and 192MB ram so ...) .
Hence, the only solution left (that is, a software
solution) is to bridge the two ethernet cards.
Maybe a non Microsoft solution exists ... ?
Shouldn't be that hard to implement for someone who has
already programed under windows but i can't find any
solution on the net.

Thanks again for the help,

Antoine

In article <041a01c42487$4c2e63b0$(E-Mail Removed)>,
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>My network is layed out as followed:
>
> ________ \
> [ISP] ---{PC1}---|Switch|---{PC2} |
> |______| | in the basement
> | |
> | |
> Powerline /
> /
> \
> /
> Powerline \
> | |
> | |
> {PC3} | 2nd floor
> ? |
> ? |
> {PC4} /
>
>What i want to do is extend my network (that means what
>is connected to the switch) to the 2nd ethernet card of
>PC3 so that PC4 can access the network as if it were
>plugged in to the switch.
>This could also be done by buying another switch (i'd
>rather not) or installing linux on PC3 (which would
>prevent members of my family from using it). Installing
>windows XP is not an option since it would'nt run (pii
>266MHz and 192MB ram so ...) .
>Hence, the only solution left (that is, a software
>solution) is to bridge the two ethernet cards.
>Maybe a non Microsoft solution exists ... ?
>Shouldn't be that hard to implement for someone who has
>already programed under windows but i can't find any
>solution on the net.
>
>Thanks again for the help,
>
>Antoine

Thanks for providing the details. I'm sorry, but I don't know of any
easy and inexpensive way to do what you want by running software on
PC3. Take a look at this article, though, and see if you can use any
of the ideas in it:

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../mmr_intro.htm

I'd solve the problem by buying another switch. In the US, they're
sometimes available for as little as $10 (after rebates) at computer
and office supply stores. A more expensive option would be to buy
another powerline-Ethernet bridge to connect to PC4.

What type of powerline networking are you using? I've used the
Netgear XA601 and XE102, and they work very well. In my opinion,
powerline networking should be much more widely used in small home
networks.
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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>I'd solve the problem by buying another switch. In the
US, they're
>sometimes available for as little as $10 (after rebates)
at computer
>and office supply stores. A more expensive option would
be to buy
>another powerline-Ethernet bridge to connect to PC4.
>

I could buy another switch, in france they're sold arround
16 euros for cheap 5 port noname switches.
The powerline ethernet bridge isn't as interesting. I
bought mine for 130 euros a piece (the USB to powerline
come for roughly 90 euros). The only advantage was that i
didn't have to run an ethernet cable across two floors

>What type of powerline networking are you using? I've
used the
>Netgear XA601 and XE102, and they work very well. In my
opinion,
>powerline networking should be much more widely used in
small home
>networks.

They're the one made by "zyxel" but sold under the
brand "zeus". (their website is studerus.ch or something
like that)
I still favor good old ethernet over the powerline or
wireless solution. Event though the powerline thing is
supposed to reach 14 Mbps I only reach about 6 Mbps, which
is kind of expensive compared to 100 Mbps with 10 euros
worth of cable. But it's true they are easy to set up and
could be usefull once they become afordable.

Anyway, thanks for the help. I'll take a look at that
website,

Antoine

The solution you provided consited of installing a routing
software on the machine (which costs 90$ btw); That's far
too complicated for what i want. I think i'll have to
consider buying a switch or teaching how to use debian to
my parents, brother and sister . (why couldn't
microsoft consider adding bridging support to older
versions of windows ? shouldn't be that hard)

Thanks for your help anyway,

Antoine