Set up a workgroup?

How do I set up a workgroup manually?

I have an old Compaq, running XP Pro, with a workgroup of MSHOME, connected
to a wireless router by a Cat 5 cable, and a newer HP Laptop running XP
Media Center, connected wirelessly.

I ran the network wizard on both machines and the Compaq set up the
workgroup MSHOME but the HP apparently did not set up the workgroup. I have
been told not to run the setup wizard multiple times, so I have not re-run it
on the HP.

In addition, both computers can successfully connect to the internet through
the router.

"Just Plain Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:5BAEABE8-60C5-473F-A49C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> How do I set up a workgroup manually?
>
> I have an old Compaq, running XP Pro, with a workgroup of MSHOME,
> connected
> to a wireless router by a Cat 5 cable, and a newer HP Laptop running XP
> Media Center, connected wirelessly.
>
> I ran the network wizard on both machines and the Compaq set up the
> workgroup MSHOME but the HP apparently did not set up the workgroup. I
> have
> been told not to run the setup wizard multiple times, so I have not re-run
> it
> on the HP.
>
Start
Control Panel
System
Computer Name
Change
Select Workgroup
Type in whatever name you want
no spaces or special characters,
15 characters or less

"John" wrote:

>
> "Just Plain Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:5BAEABE8-60C5-473F-A49C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > How do I set up a workgroup manually?
> >
> > I have an old Compaq, running XP Pro, with a workgroup of MSHOME,
> > connected
> > to a wireless router by a Cat 5 cable, and a newer HP Laptop running XP
> > Media Center, connected wirelessly.
> >
> > I ran the network wizard on both machines and the Compaq set up the
> > workgroup MSHOME but the HP apparently did not set up the workgroup. I
> > have
> > been told not to run the setup wizard multiple times, so I have not re-run
> > it
> > on the HP.
> >
> Start
> Control Panel
> System
> Computer Name
> Change
> Select Workgroup
> Type in whatever name you want
> no spaces or special characters,
> 15 characters or less
>
>
> Thank you.

So, now I have another question.

I have determined that I am in the workgroup MSHOME, and that both computers
have that as their workgroup.

When I go to Windows Explorer and click on the entire network, I get three
choices. One of which is Microsoft Windows Network. When I click on that I
get the message "Unable to browse the network. The network is not present or
not started." For more information click "Help". When I do that, the system
does not respond.

Now what?

Hi
Successful Sharing between computer, involves some general consideration in
Network settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it is
allowed to be shared.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
Basic XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...lesharing.mspx
Advanced XP - http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"Just Plain Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:5BAEABE8-60C5-473F-A49C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> How do I set up a workgroup manually?
>
> I have an old Compaq, running XP Pro, with a workgroup of MSHOME,
> connected
> to a wireless router by a Cat 5 cable, and a newer HP Laptop running XP
> Media Center, connected wirelessly.
>
> I ran the network wizard on both machines and the Compaq set up the
> workgroup MSHOME but the HP apparently did not set up the workgroup. I
> have
> been told not to run the setup wizard multiple times, so I have not re-run
> it
> on the HP.
>
> In addition, both computers can successfully connect to the internet
> through
> the router.

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
> Successful Sharing between computer, involves some general consideration in
> Network settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it is
> allowed to be shared.
> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
> Basic XP -
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...lesharing.mspx
> Advanced XP - http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
> Printer Sharing XP -
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "Just Plain Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:5BAEABE8-60C5-473F-A49C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > How do I set up a workgroup manually?
> >
> > I have an old Compaq, running XP Pro, with a workgroup of MSHOME,
> > connected
> > to a wireless router by a Cat 5 cable, and a newer HP Laptop running XP
> > Media Center, connected wirelessly.
> >
> > I ran the network wizard on both machines and the Compaq set up the
> > workgroup MSHOME but the HP apparently did not set up the workgroup. I
> > have
> > been told not to run the setup wizard multiple times, so I have not re-run
> > it
> > on the HP.
> >
> > In addition, both computers can successfully connect to the internet
> > through
> > the router.
>
> Thank you for the reply, Jack.

I read through the various articles, although some of the links were bad.

As far as I can tell, my workgroup is working well on the Cat 5 cable
connected compaq. The laptop, which is connected via wireless cannot see the
Compaq, nor can the Compaq see the HP.

I think the problem is that the wireless side is not talking to the cable
connected side. I don't know what to do about that.

Any suggestions?

Just Plain Bill <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Successful Sharing between computer, involves some general
>> consideration in Network settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
>> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it
>> is allowed to be shared.
>> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
>> Basic XP -
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...lesharing.mspx
>> Advanced XP -
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
>> Printer Sharing XP -
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
>> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
>> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> "Just Plain Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> message news:5BAEABE8-60C5-473F-A49C-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> How do I set up a workgroup manually?
>>>
>>> I have an old Compaq, running XP Pro, with a workgroup of MSHOME,
>>> connected
>>> to a wireless router by a Cat 5 cable, and a newer HP Laptop
>>> running XP Media Center, connected wirelessly.
>>>
>>> I ran the network wizard on both machines and the Compaq set up the
>>> workgroup MSHOME but the HP apparently did not set up the
>>> workgroup. I have
>>> been told not to run the setup wizard multiple times, so I have not
>>> re-run it
>>> on the HP.
>>>
>>> In addition, both computers can successfully connect to the internet
>>> through
>>> the router.
>>
>> Thank you for the reply, Jack.
>
> I read through the various articles, although some of the links were
> bad.
>
> As far as I can tell, my workgroup is working well on the Cat 5 cable
> connected compaq. The laptop, which is connected via wireless cannot
> see the Compaq, nor can the Compaq see the HP.
>
> I think the problem is that the wireless side is not talking to the
> cable connected side. I don't know what to do about that.
>
> Any suggestions?

Disable your Windows firewalls on all computers & test. See if you can ping
by IP address, and then by name.

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:

> Just Plain Bill <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >> Successful Sharing between computer, involves some general
> >> consideration in Network settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
> >> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it
> >> is allowed to be shared.
> >> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
> >> Basic XP -
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...lesharing.mspx
> >> Advanced XP -
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
> >> Printer Sharing XP -
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
> >> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
> >> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
> >> Jack (MVP-Networking).
> >>
> >> "Just Plain Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> >> message news:5BAEABE8-60C5-473F-A49C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> How do I set up a workgroup manually?
> >>>
> >>> I have an old Compaq, running XP Pro, with a workgroup of MSHOME,
> >>> connected
> >>> to a wireless router by a Cat 5 cable, and a newer HP Laptop
> >>> running XP Media Center, connected wirelessly.
> >>>
> >>> I ran the network wizard on both machines and the Compaq set up the
> >>> workgroup MSHOME but the HP apparently did not set up the
> >>> workgroup. I have
> >>> been told not to run the setup wizard multiple times, so I have not
> >>> re-run it
> >>> on the HP.
> >>>
> >>> In addition, both computers can successfully connect to the internet
> >>> through
> >>> the router.
> >>
> >> Thank you for the reply, Jack.
> >
> > I read through the various articles, although some of the links were
> > bad.
> >
> > As far as I can tell, my workgroup is working well on the Cat 5 cable
> > connected compaq. The laptop, which is connected via wireless cannot
> > see the Compaq, nor can the Compaq see the HP.
> >
> > I think the problem is that the wireless side is not talking to the
> > cable connected side. I don't know what to do about that.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
>
> Disable your Windows firewalls on all computers & test. See if you can ping
> by IP address, and then by name.
>
>
> Well, that was interesting.

I followed your suggestion.

I was able to ping from my Desktop to my laptop, however I was not able to
ping from my laptop to my desktop.

So, what does that mean?

"Just Plain Bill" wrote:

>
>
> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>
> > Just Plain Bill <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > > "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi
> > >> Successful Sharing between computer, involves some general
> > >> consideration in Network settings, http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
> > >> As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it
> > >> is allowed to be shared.
> > >> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
> > >> Basic XP -
> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...lesharing.mspx
> > >> Advanced XP -
> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
> > >> Printer Sharing XP -
> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
> > >> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
> > >> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
> > >> Jack (MVP-Networking).
> > >>
> > >> "Just Plain Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > >> message news:5BAEABE8-60C5-473F-A49C-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >>> How do I set up a workgroup manually?
> > >>>
> > >>> I have an old Compaq, running XP Pro, with a workgroup of MSHOME,
> > >>> connected
> > >>> to a wireless router by a Cat 5 cable, and a newer HP Laptop
> > >>> running XP Media Center, connected wirelessly.
> > >>>
> > >>> I ran the network wizard on both machines and the Compaq set up the
> > >>> workgroup MSHOME but the HP apparently did not set up the
> > >>> workgroup. I have
> > >>> been told not to run the setup wizard multiple times, so I have not
> > >>> re-run it
> > >>> on the HP.
> > >>>
> > >>> In addition, both computers can successfully connect to the internet
> > >>> through
> > >>> the router.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you for the reply, Jack.
> > >
> > > I read through the various articles, although some of the links were
> > > bad.
> > >
> > > As far as I can tell, my workgroup is working well on the Cat 5 cable
> > > connected compaq. The laptop, which is connected via wireless cannot
> > > see the Compaq, nor can the Compaq see the HP.
> > >
> > > I think the problem is that the wireless side is not talking to the
> > > cable connected side. I don't know what to do about that.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Disable your Windows firewalls on all computers & test. See if you can ping
> > by IP address, and then by name.
> >
> >
> > Well, that was interesting.
>
> I followed your suggestion.
>
> I was able to ping from my Desktop to my laptop, however I was not able to
> ping from my laptop to my desktop.
>
> So, what does that mean?

It gets more interesting.

I can ping, by name, my desktop from my laptop, but I cannot ping my laptop
from my desktop, which is the opposite from pinging by ip address.

What now?

Just Plain Bill <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> "Just Plain Bill" wrote:

>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" wrote:
>>
>>> Just Plain Bill <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>>> "Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> Successful Sharing between computer, involves some general
>>>>> consideration in Network settings,
>>>>> http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html As well as specific adjustment
>>>>> of each computer according to what it is allowed to be shared.
>>>>> Vista File and Printer Sharing-
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
>>>>> Basic XP -
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...lesharing.mspx
>>>>> Advanced XP -
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
>>>>> Printer Sharing XP -
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
>>>>> Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
>>>>> Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
>>>>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>>>>
>>>>> "Just Plain Bill" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
>>>>> in message
>>>>> news:5BAEABE8-60C5-473F-A49C-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>>>> How do I set up a workgroup manually?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an old Compaq, running XP Pro, with a workgroup of MSHOME,
>>>>>> connected
>>>>>> to a wireless router by a Cat 5 cable, and a newer HP Laptop
>>>>>> running XP Media Center, connected wirelessly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran the network wizard on both machines and the Compaq set up
>>>>>> the workgroup MSHOME but the HP apparently did not set up the
>>>>>> workgroup. I have
>>>>>> been told not to run the setup wizard multiple times, so I have
>>>>>> not re-run it
>>>>>> on the HP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition, both computers can successfully connect to the
>>>>>> internet through
>>>>>> the router.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the reply, Jack.
>>>>
>>>> I read through the various articles, although some of the links
>>>> were bad.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I can tell, my workgroup is working well on the Cat 5
>>>> cable connected compaq. The laptop, which is connected via
>>>> wireless cannot see the Compaq, nor can the Compaq see the HP.
>>>>
>>>> I think the problem is that the wireless side is not talking to the
>>>> cable connected side. I don't know what to do about that.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Disable your Windows firewalls on all computers & test. See if you
>>> can ping by IP address, and then by name.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, that was interesting.
>>
>> I followed your suggestion.
>>
>> I was able to ping from my Desktop to my laptop, however I was not
>> able to ping from my laptop to my desktop.
>>
>> So, what does that mean?

>
> It gets more interesting.
>
> I can ping, by name, my desktop from my laptop, but I cannot ping my
> laptop from my desktop, which is the opposite from pinging by ip
> address.
>
> What now?

This is generally due to misconfigured firewalls. Pinging by IP is the most
important test where connectivity is concerned.

I suggest you take a look at some of the tutorials at
www.practicallynetworked.com ("how to" guides) - and try posting a new
message w/updated info in microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web, which gets
a lot of traffic. Your issue isn't a wireless one, and I work mainly with
domains, so you will probably get more help in there.Best of luck!