servers on different subnets cannot see all other computers in dom

We have 6 different sites that all operate on their own different subnets.
these sites are connected together via a fixed lines and can fully
communicate with each other subnet but when you open the network on each
local site, it will only show the computers located within its own subnet.
Each site has its own dhcp server.
we have dns/wins servers located at one site only and every machine points
to these.
there is no name resolution problems.
we are on AD with 2003 on each server.

I would like to be able to see all computers in the domain within network
neighbourhood but cannot find a way to correct this.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

First of all, in order for this to happen, you have to have at least
1 domain in place. This will not work with remote workgroups
because there is no DMB or domain master browser in place
to merge the entire list.

You haven't really mentioned how they were connected aside
from saying you have fixed lines but you didn't mention your
routers. It is common to have 1 machine act as a router with
multihoming which would give you the same result.

Each subnet will have 1 subnet master browser which is
responsible for gathering the local list from all machines
then passing that list on to the DMB as well as passing the
merged list from the DMB back to all clients who request it.
All SMBs must be able to setup a NetBIOS connection with
the DMB(s). This whole process relies on NetBIOS broadcasts.

"snurge" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:0C8A4D1B-9A87-41B6-9B19-(E-Mail Removed)...
> We have 6 different sites that all operate on their own different subnets.
> these sites are connected together via a fixed lines and can fully
> communicate with each other subnet but when you open the network on each
> local site, it will only show the computers located within its own subnet.
> Each site has its own dhcp server.
> we have dns/wins servers located at one site only and every machine points
> to these.
> there is no name resolution problems.
> we are on AD with 2003 on each server.
>
> I would like to be able to see all computers in the domain within network
> neighbourhood but cannot find a way to correct this.
>
> Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Hey Mike,

I have a similar issue. All my site are connected via cisco routers. They
can ping eachother just fine by FQDM. We are in a single forest and a few
child domains on different subnets. I can only see machines thats are in
thier own subnet from nethood. How can I get all machine to see eachother in
the entire forest? Do I need a WINS server in every domain?

Thanks

"Michael Giorgio - MS MVP" wrote:

> First of all, in order for this to happen, you have to have at least
> 1 domain in place. This will not work with remote workgroups
> because there is no DMB or domain master browser in place
> to merge the entire list.
>
> You haven't really mentioned how they were connected aside
> from saying you have fixed lines but you didn't mention your
> routers. It is common to have 1 machine act as a router with
> multihoming which would give you the same result.
>
> Each subnet will have 1 subnet master browser which is
> responsible for gathering the local list from all machines
> then passing that list on to the DMB as well as passing the
> merged list from the DMB back to all clients who request it.
> All SMBs must be able to setup a NetBIOS connection with
> the DMB(s). This whole process relies on NetBIOS broadcasts.
>
> "snurge" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:0C8A4D1B-9A87-41B6-9B19-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > We have 6 different sites that all operate on their own different subnets.
> > these sites are connected together via a fixed lines and can fully
> > communicate with each other subnet but when you open the network on each
> > local site, it will only show the computers located within its own subnet.
> > Each site has its own dhcp server.
> > we have dns/wins servers located at one site only and every machine points
> > to these.
> > there is no name resolution problems.
> > we are on AD with 2003 on each server.
> >
> > I would like to be able to see all computers in the domain within network
> > neighbourhood but cannot find a way to correct this.
> >
> > Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>

Hi Mark,

Open a dos prompt and run net view against a remote
domain e.g., net view /domain:remotedomainname ;
what do you see?

"Mark R." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:758FC559-6908-4B8C-912F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hey Mike,
>
> I have a similar issue. All my site are connected via cisco routers. They
> can ping eachother just fine by FQDM. We are in a single forest and a few
> child domains on different subnets. I can only see machines thats are in
> thier own subnet from nethood. How can I get all machine to see eachother
> in
> the entire forest? Do I need a WINS server in every domain?

OK

I VNC into our Shanghai site ( I am in NY) I net view our parent doamin in NY

net view parentdomain.com
Share resources at parentdomain.com


Share name Type Used as Commen
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NETLOGON Disk Logon server share
SYSVOL Disk Logon server share
The command completed successfully.





"Michael Giorgio - MS MVP" wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> Open a dos prompt and run net view against a remote
> domain e.g., net view /domain:remotedomainname ;
> what do you see?
>
> "Mark R." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:758FC559-6908-4B8C-912F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Hey Mike,
> >
> > I have a similar issue. All my site are connected via cisco routers. They
> > can ping eachother just fine by FQDM. We are in a single forest and a few
> > child domains on different subnets. I can only see machines thats are in
> > thier own subnet from nethood. How can I get all machine to see eachother
> > in
> > the entire forest? Do I need a WINS server in every domain?
>
>
>

Hi Mark,

The command is: net view /domainarentdomainname

Use the NetBIOS name not the FQDN.

You, somehow, queried a specific computer for it's
shared resources.


"Mark R." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:B06BDAF1-A904-48BB-9BC3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> OK
>
> I VNC into our Shanghai site ( I am in NY) I net view our parent doamin in
> NY
>
> net view parentdomain.com
> Share resources at parentdomain.com
>
>
> Share name Type Used as Comment
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> NETLOGON Disk Logon server share
> SYSVOL Disk Logon server share
> The command completed successfully.
>
>

ok got it

from the shanghai server

net view /domainarent.com
system error 6118 has occured

The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available

when I net view /domain:shanghai (it's own domain) I get

net view /domain:shanghai
Server Name Remark
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
\\SHA-002
\\SHADC01

"Michael Giorgio - MS MVP" wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> The command is: net view /domainarentdomainname
>
> Use the NetBIOS name not the FQDN.
>
> You, somehow, queried a specific computer for it's
> shared resources.
>
>
> "Mark R." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:B06BDAF1-A904-48BB-9BC3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > OK
> >
> > I VNC into our Shanghai site ( I am in NY) I net view our parent doamin in
> > NY
> >
> > net view parentdomain.com
> > Share resources at parentdomain.com
> >
> >
> > Share name Type Used as Comment
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > NETLOGON Disk Logon server share
> > SYSVOL Disk Logon server share
> > The command completed successfully.
> >
> >
>
>
>

"Mark R." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:758FC559-6908-4B8C-912F-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hey Mike,
>
> I have a similar issue. All my site are connected via cisco routers. They
> can ping eachother just fine by FQDM. We are in a single forest and a few
> child domains on different subnets. I can only see machines thats are in
> thier own subnet from nethood. How can I get all machine to see eachother
in
> the entire forest? Do I need a WINS server in every domain?

No. You need just one WINS that all the machines use. "Domains" are totally
irrelevant.

--
Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
www.wandtv.com

OK here is some additional info from a test I ran.

The parent domain is in NY and we also have a child domain here is NY as
well. We kinda did the single foraet empty root approach. These two domains
are on the same subnet 10.100.0.0/16. Everything communicates perfect b/c
it's the same subnet no router/VLANs separate the two.

I put a laptop from the child domain on it's own subnet 10.200.0.0/24. I
have a router to separate the two subnets. I setup WINS on the child domain
and pointed the laptop to it, rebooted and all the domains show up in
nethood. I can ofcourse connect to the child domain the laptop belongs and
the partent but cannot connect to the other child domain. I get not
accessible error.

So should I setup a WINS server in each domain based on this? Or should I
point everything to the WINS server in the parent domain and try to figure
out the issue?

"Mark R." wrote:

> ok got it
>
> from the shanghai server
>
> net view /domainarent.com
> system error 6118 has occured
>
> The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available
>
> when I net view /domain:shanghai (it's own domain) I get
>
> net view /domain:shanghai
> Server Name Remark
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> \\SHA-002
> \\SHADC01
>
> "Michael Giorgio - MS MVP" wrote:
>
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > The command is: net view /domainarentdomainname
> >
> > Use the NetBIOS name not the FQDN.
> >
> > You, somehow, queried a specific computer for it's
> > shared resources.
> >
> >
> > "Mark R." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:B06BDAF1-A904-48BB-9BC3-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > OK
> > >
> > > I VNC into our Shanghai site ( I am in NY) I net view our parent doamin in
> > > NY
> > >
> > > net view parentdomain.com
> > > Share resources at parentdomain.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Share name Type Used as Comment
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > NETLOGON Disk Logon server share
> > > SYSVOL Disk Logon server share
> > > The command completed successfully.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >

As I suspected. Have a look at the following:

Internet firewalls can prevent browsing and file sharing

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/298804/en-us

"Mark R." <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:
> ok got it
>
> from the shanghai server
>
> net view /domainarent.com
> system error 6118 has occured
>
> The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available
>