Server 2003

Trying to setup a Windows 2003 Server on a wireless network (for testing
flexibility) and have a problem...

1. None of the wireless NIC vendors seem to provide W2K3 drivers (I'm not
really that surprised by this)
2. I need to use wireless-N for range/throughput purposes so I can't use a
wireless-G bridge to connect to the server ethernet port
3. Couldn't use a wireless-G bridge anyway as none of them support WPA-2
4. None of the wireless vendors seem to produce wireless-N bridges

Anyone got any clever ideas ???

Hi
There is No 802.11n standard, there is a prN/draft gizmos, which I consider
Marketing devices to keep revenue in check, and not a good technology.
Since the "N" is Not standard the manufactures do not want to commit
themselves to more compatibility problem and thus sell only Routers and
Cards.
Since the preN price are inflated upward I would use good 802.11g devices.
Next year there would be good 802.11n solution.
P.S. The issues motioned by you are 3rd party manufacturers' decisions and
has nothing to do with Window (any version).
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"gary0371" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:95383246-B3AC-4931-B32E-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Trying to setup a Windows 2003 Server on a wireless network (for testing
> flexibility) and have a problem...
>
> 1. None of the wireless NIC vendors seem to provide W2K3 drivers (I'm not
> really that surprised by this)
> 2. I need to use wireless-N for range/throughput purposes so I can't use
> a
> wireless-G bridge to connect to the server ethernet port
> 3. Couldn't use a wireless-G bridge anyway as none of them support WPA-2
> 4. None of the wireless vendors seem to produce wireless-N bridges
>
> Anyone got any clever ideas ???

Jack,

Thanks for the quick response and much as I expected the answer is 'No'.

I agree that there is not a current N standard and that this will be
ratified later and no doubt lead to changes, however I disagree about it not
being good technology at the moment as my wireless network has improved no
ends in terms of throughput and range. Also I am using different
manufacturers (Netgear and Linksys) and they work quite happily (and very
well) together.

Given your response, do you expect wireless vendors to release drivers for
Windows Server 2003 once the N standards are ratified ?

Thanks

"Jack (MVP-Networking)." wrote:

> Hi
> There is No 802.11n standard, there is a prN/draft gizmos, which I consider
> Marketing devices to keep revenue in check, and not a good technology.
> Since the "N" is Not standard the manufactures do not want to commit
> themselves to more compatibility problem and thus sell only Routers and
> Cards.
> Since the preN price are inflated upward I would use good 802.11g devices.
> Next year there would be good 802.11n solution.
> P.S. The issues motioned by you are 3rd party manufacturers' decisions and
> has nothing to do with Window (any version).
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "gary0371" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:95383246-B3AC-4931-B32E-(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Trying to setup a Windows 2003 Server on a wireless network (for testing
> > flexibility) and have a problem...
> >
> > 1. None of the wireless NIC vendors seem to provide W2K3 drivers (I'm not
> > really that surprised by this)
> > 2. I need to use wireless-N for range/throughput purposes so I can't use
> > a
> > wireless-G bridge to connect to the server ethernet port
> > 3. Couldn't use a wireless-G bridge anyway as none of them support WPA-2
> > 4. None of the wireless vendors seem to produce wireless-N bridges
> >
> > Anyone got any clever ideas ???
>
>
>

The WiFi alliance is starting to certify some draft 2.0 N gear. I
suspect, but can't guarantee, that the items certified will be
upgradeable to the final standard. Caveat Emptor.

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=570 (coming real soon now they
say) is one to look at. Microsoft showed these off at Winhec, they
do support WPA2, etc.

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:00:02 -0700, gary0371
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>3. Couldn't use a wireless-G bridge anyway as none of them support WPA-2
>4. None of the wireless vendors seem to produce wireless-N bridges
>
>Anyone got any clever ideas ???
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

Barb,

Great, thanks for the info - looks very interesting


"Barb Bowman" wrote:

> The WiFi alliance is starting to certify some draft 2.0 N gear. I
> suspect, but can't guarantee, that the items certified will be
> upgradeable to the final standard. Caveat Emptor.
>
> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=570 (coming real soon now they
> say) is one to look at. Microsoft showed these off at Winhec, they
> do support WPA2, etc.
>
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:00:02 -0700, gary0371
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >3. Couldn't use a wireless-G bridge anyway as none of them support WPA-2
> >4. None of the wireless vendors seem to produce wireless-N bridges
> >
> >Anyone got any clever ideas ???
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>

and hot off the presses
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4617938&EDATE=


On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:06:01 -0700, gary0371
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Barb,
>
>Great, thanks for the info - looks very interesting
>
>
>"Barb Bowman" wrote:
>
>> The WiFi alliance is starting to certify some draft 2.0 N gear. I
>> suspect, but can't guarantee, that the items certified will be
>> upgradeable to the final standard. Caveat Emptor.
>>
>> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=570 (coming real soon now they
>> say) is one to look at. Microsoft showed these off at Winhec, they
>> do support WPA2, etc.
>>
>> On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:00:02 -0700, gary0371
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> >3. Couldn't use a wireless-G bridge anyway as none of them support WPA-2
>> >4. None of the wireless vendors seem to produce wireless-N bridges
>> >
>> >Anyone got any clever ideas ???
>> --
>>
>> Barb Bowman
>> MS Windows-MVP
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
>> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>>
--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

I am writing this letter to ALL Wireless Router manufacturers.
I have a Linksys Wireless Router Model:BEFW11S4. It is 7 years (yes, count
them, all of seven little years) old. I have visited the Linksys website
numerous times trying to set up the WEP/WPA security on that wireless router
(as all responsible wireless router owners should!). I found that there are
no links to any wireless router setting websites that are congruent with the
screen shots from Linksys' own self help technical support site. I have had
to call Linksys several times to resolve this issue only to be placed on hold
for lengthy times (sometimes my call was dropped and I had to start over ....
how sad for such a large company to have such poorly trained phone
receptionists!), then be transferred (see previous comment about the phone
receptionists) to a supposed supervisor, only to finally be transferred to
someone who tells me that the warranty has expired and wants me to pay $40.00
for the technical support to do the right thing that I want and need to do.
First, the device works fine (as evidenced by this e-mail that you have
just received)!
Second, why should I have to pay for doing the right thing?
Third, if I am going to be EXTORTED into buying a new wireless router so
that I can do the right thing and set up an encryption key for a secure
network, what on Gods' Green Earth makes anyone think that I would CHOOSE to
buy another Linksys product when ALL that I have ever received from them is a
functional wireless router (yes, even after seven whole years) and the
crappiest Customer Service/Technical Support I have ever had the displeasure
to encounter!
I shall copy this letter and try to find as many Chat Rooms as possible in
order to spread the word of ALL that I have gone through with the Chain of
Command at the Linksys phone center, well above and beyond what any
reasonable person should expect to go through, and still have NO RELIEF
concerning my singular issue with their product and its capabilities that I
SHOULD be able to enjoy as the owner of said product! What has happend to
"The Customer Is Always Right" Customer Service mantra (I can't say "In
America" because the call was handled in India)? Is the Customer, the ones
that makes the company what it is through the purchase of products, so
worthless to the company that they can just be treated with abject contempt
and scorn? Is the Customer to thus be trampled underfoot? Are we paying to
be so abused? I, for one (yes, one, the beginning of all), shall NOT be
treated in such manner, and CERTAINLY shall NOT PAY to be treated as such!
In this world of expanding technologies, it shall be those with the
GREATEST Customer Appeal that shall continue to be found worthwile in the
publics' eyes (and pocketbooks) and shall grow to meet the demands of a
growing world - ESPECIALLY in the Electronics Department!
It is now my strongest desire that the Linksys Corporation suffers
irreparable damage and goes out of business for their Crappy Customer
Service! I can only hope that I reach enough people around the world to bring
this desire true!

"gary0371" wrote:

> Trying to setup a Windows 2003 Server on a wireless network (for testing
> flexibility) and have a problem...
>
> 1. None of the wireless NIC vendors seem to provide W2K3 drivers (I'm not
> really that surprised by this)
> 2. I need to use wireless-N for range/throughput purposes so I can't use a
> wireless-G bridge to connect to the server ethernet port
> 3. Couldn't use a wireless-G bridge anyway as none of them support WPA-2
> 4. None of the wireless vendors seem to produce wireless-N bridges
>
> Anyone got any clever ideas ???

I am writing this letter to ALL Wireless Router manufacturers.
I have a Linksys Wireless Router Model:BEFW11S4. It is 7 years (yes, count
them, all of seven little years) old. I have visited the Linksys website
numerous times trying to set up the WEP/WPA security on that wireless router
(as all responsible wireless router owners should!). I found that there are
no links to any wireless router setting websites that are congruent with the
screen shots from Linksys' own self help technical support site. I have had
to call Linksys several times to resolve this issue only to be placed on hold
for lengthy times (sometimes my call was dropped and I had to start over ....
how sad for such a large company to have such poorly trained phone
receptionists!), then be transferred (see previous comment about the phone
receptionists) to a supposed supervisor, only to finally be transferred to
someone who tells me that the warranty has expired and wants me to pay $40.00
for the technical support to do the right thing that I want and need to do.
First, the device works fine (as evidenced by this e-mail that you have
just received)!
Second, why should I have to pay for doing the right thing?
Third, if I am going to be EXTORTED into buying a new wireless router so
that I can do the right thing and set up an encryption key for a secure
network, what on Gods' Green Earth makes anyone think that I would CHOOSE to
buy another Linksys product when ALL that I have ever received from them is a
functional wireless router (yes, even after seven whole years) and the
crappiest Customer Service/Technical Support I have ever had the displeasure
to encounter!
I shall copy this letter and try to find as many Chat Rooms as possible in
order to spread the word of ALL that I have gone through with the Chain of
Command at the Linksys phone center, well above and beyond what any
reasonable person should expect to go through, and still have NO RELIEF
concerning my singular issue with their product and its capabilities that I
SHOULD be able to enjoy as the owner of said product! What has happend to
"The Customer Is Always Right" Customer Service mantra (I can't say "In
America" because the call was handled in India)? Is the Customer, the ones
that makes the company what it is through the purchase of products, so
worthless to the company that they can just be treated with abject contempt
and scorn? Is the Customer to thus be trampled underfoot? Are we paying to
be so abused? I, for one (yes, one, the beginning of all), shall NOT be
treated in such manner, and CERTAINLY shall NOT PAY to be treated as such!
In this world of expanding technologies, it shall be those with the
GREATEST Customer Appeal that shall continue to be found worthwile in the
publics' eyes (and pocketbooks) and shall grow to meet the demands of a
growing world - ESPECIALLY in the Electronics Department!
It is now my strongest desire that the Linksys Corporation suffers
irreparable damage and goes out of business for their Crappy Customer
Service! I can only hope that I reach enough people around the world to bring
this desire true!

"Barb Bowman" wrote:

> and hot off the presses
> http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/st...4617938&EDATE=
>
>
> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:06:01 -0700, gary0371
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Barb,
> >
> >Great, thanks for the info - looks very interesting
> >
> >
> >"Barb Bowman" wrote:
> >
> >> The WiFi alliance is starting to certify some draft 2.0 N gear. I
> >> suspect, but can't guarantee, that the items certified will be
> >> upgradeable to the final standard. Caveat Emptor.
> >>
> >> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=570 (coming real soon now they
> >> say) is one to look at. Microsoft showed these off at Winhec, they
> >> do support WPA2, etc.
> >>
> >> On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:00:02 -0700, gary0371
> >> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>
> >> >3. Couldn't use a wireless-G bridge anyway as none of them support WPA-2
> >> >4. None of the wireless vendors seem to produce wireless-N bridges
> >> >
> >> >Anyone got any clever ideas ???
> >> --
> >>
> >> Barb Bowman
> >> MS Windows-MVP
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
> >> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
> >>
> --
>
> Barb Bowman
> MS Windows-MVP
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
> http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
>