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Sanjay Punjab
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      05-19-2004, 11:37 PM
I have noticed that many WIFI networks I use around town block e-mail
messages I send. I get the following error.


Send e-mail message: The specified server was found, but there was no
response from the server. Please veirfy that the port and SSL
information is correct. To access these settings close this dialog,
then click more settings and click on the advanced tab


After doing some troubleshooting and research I found out that some
ISPs block any outgoing e-mail that uses SMTP servers othere than
there own.
Does anyone know a way around this problem?
Thanks
 
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Hal Hostetler [MVP DTS]
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      05-19-2004, 11:56 PM
About the only way around it would be webmail, should the email system
you're trying to use offer that. If the ISP you're connected to has port 25
blocked, you're only other option is to use the SMTP server owned by this
ISP.

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"Sanjay Punjab" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> I have noticed that many WIFI networks I use around town block e-mail
> messages I send. I get the following error.
>
>
> Send e-mail message: The specified server was found, but there was no
> response from the server. Please veirfy that the port and SSL
> information is correct. To access these settings close this dialog,
> then click more settings and click on the advanced tab
>
>
> After doing some troubleshooting and research I found out that some
> ISPs block any outgoing e-mail that uses SMTP servers othere than
> there own.
> Does anyone know a way around this problem?
> Thanks



 
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gary
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      05-19-2004, 11:59 PM
Unless you reconfigured your pop server address, when you try to send email,
you should be contacting your ISP's server directly - even if you're at a
public wifi hostspot. The standard problem is that your pop server refuses
to accept the connection, because your IP address is not in a subnet
exported by your ISP.

Usually you can receive mail from the smtp server, you just can't connect to
the pop server to send email. The purpose is to prevent someone who may have
stolen your auhentication information from using your email account to
generate spam.

One way around this is to get a web-based email account. You can always send
email from a web page, once you've authenticated.

"Sanjay Punjab" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> I have noticed that many WIFI networks I use around town block e-mail
> messages I send. I get the following error.
>
>
> Send e-mail message: The specified server was found, but there was no
> response from the server. Please veirfy that the port and SSL
> information is correct. To access these settings close this dialog,
> then click more settings and click on the advanced tab
>
>
> After doing some troubleshooting and research I found out that some
> ISPs block any outgoing e-mail that uses SMTP servers othere than
> there own.
> Does anyone know a way around this problem?
> Thanks
>



 
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Jerry Park
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      05-20-2004, 12:54 AM
Sanjay Punjab wrote:

>I have noticed that many WIFI networks I use around town block e-mail
>messages I send. I get the following error.
>
>
>Send e-mail message: The specified server was found, but there was no
>response from the server. Please veirfy that the port and SSL
>information is correct. To access these settings close this dialog,
>then click more settings and click on the advanced tab
>
>
>After doing some troubleshooting and research I found out that some
>ISPs block any outgoing e-mail that uses SMTP servers othere than
>there own.
>Does anyone know a way around this problem?
>Thanks
>
>

There may be several reasons you are blocked from sending.
1) The ISP my be blocking port 25, so you can't connect to your ISP's
SMTP server.
2) Your ISP may be refusing the connection because you are not connected
through a IP address owned by your ISP.
3) The owner of the WIFI network may be blocking port 25 to prevent
clients from spamming from his connection.

If your mail provider provides an alternate port, you may be able to
access the SMTP server from that port.

Most mail providers provide web based access. That should work from
anywhere.
 
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Frank
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      05-20-2004, 01:54 AM
> Usually you can receive mail from the smtp server,
> you just can't connect to the pop server to send email.


Small nit-pik... this is backwards. You connect to an SMTP to send mail and
a POP server to receive mail.

-Frank


 
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gary
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      05-20-2004, 02:12 AM
Oops. Yes, I got these backwards. Thanks.

"Frank" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> > Usually you can receive mail from the smtp server,
> > you just can't connect to the pop server to send email.

>
> Small nit-pik... this is backwards. You connect to an SMTP to send mail

and
> a POP server to receive mail.
>
> -Frank
>
>
>



 
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Ron Bandes
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      05-20-2004, 06:16 AM
The problem probably isn't that the ISP is blocking SMTP traffic to any
server other than their own. It's more likely that the SMTP server that
you're trying to use is refusing your connection because it's originating
from an address that's not part of their network. If you know the name (or
address) of the SMTP belonging to the ISP that you're going through, use it;
it won't care that your email address is foreign.

Another possibility: if your email is hosted as part of your own domain,
then you may be able to configure your account to accept SMTP connections
from foreign networks.

Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.

"Sanjay Punjab" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> I have noticed that many WIFI networks I use around town block e-mail
> messages I send. I get the following error.
>
>
> Send e-mail message: The specified server was found, but there was no
> response from the server. Please veirfy that the port and SSL
> information is correct. To access these settings close this dialog,
> then click more settings and click on the advanced tab
>
>
> After doing some troubleshooting and research I found out that some
> ISPs block any outgoing e-mail that uses SMTP servers othere than
> there own.
> Does anyone know a way around this problem?
> Thanks



 
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Nick Christenson
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      05-20-2004, 08:10 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed) >,
Sanjay Punjab <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>I have noticed that many WIFI networks I use around town block e-mail
>messages I send.



I believe it. I would.

> I get the following error.


Do you know who is originating this error? I'll guess it's your email
client because it can't connect.

>Send e-mail message: The specified server was found, but there was no
>response from the server. Please veirfy that the port and SSL
>information is correct. To access these settings close this dialog,
>then click more settings and click on the advanced tab
>
>After doing some troubleshooting and research I found out that some
>ISPs block any outgoing e-mail that uses SMTP servers othere than
>there own.


This is to prevent their networks from being used by spammers.

>Does anyone know a way around this problem?


There are four ways around this problem.
1) Use the ISPs mail server as your outbound relay. Setting this depends on
your client, but somewhere it will ask for "SMTP host". Set this to whatever
the ISP wants.
2) If you're running your own mail server, you can run an SMTP server on
a non-standard port. Please make sure you use something like SMTP AUTH
to make sure this machine doesn't become an open relay.
3) Use a protocol other than SMTP to send your email to the server. Some
clients allow you to submit messages for sending through the POP or IMAP
protocol.
4) Don't send email until you get back to your home network.

Pick whichever one works for you. If you don't know how to accomplish
these (specifically #2), then cross it off and go to another one. #1
is probably the easiest to satisfy.


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      05-20-2004, 08:11 PM
In article <J2Yqc.96664$(E-Mail Removed) >, "Ron
Bandes" <RunderscoreBandes @yah00.com> says...
> The problem probably isn't that the ISP is blocking SMTP traffic to any
> server other than their own. It's more likely that the SMTP server that
> you're trying to use is refusing your connection because it's originating
> from an address that's not part of their network. If you know the name (or
> address) of the SMTP belonging to the ISP that you're going through, use it;
> it won't care that your email address is foreign.
>
> Another possibility: if your email is hosted as part of your own domain,
> then you may be able to configure your account to accept SMTP connections
> from foreign networks.
>
> Ron Bandes, CCNP, CTT+, etc.
>
> "Sanjay Punjab" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> > I have noticed that many WIFI networks I use around town block e-mail
> > messages I send. I get the following error.
> >
> >
> > Send e-mail message: The specified server was found, but there was no
> > response from the server. Please veirfy that the port and SSL
> > information is correct. To access these settings close this dialog,
> > then click more settings and click on the advanced tab
> >
> >
> > After doing some troubleshooting and research I found out that some
> > ISPs block any outgoing e-mail that uses SMTP servers othere than
> > there own.
> > Does anyone know a way around this problem?
> > Thanks

>

Another solution would be to run an SMTP agent on your computer that
delivers your email directly rather than using your ISP's SMTP server.
There are many free SMTP agents available for download, a quick Google
search should find you a few.

---Matthew
 
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Peanutjake
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      05-20-2004, 11:50 PM
Get a free email account from
softhome.net
You can then use port 25000 instead of the blocked port 25.
PJ


 
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