Senao/Engenius

Is there a specific reason why I never see the Senao/Engenius gear never
recommended here ?

There are many questions here that the answer could be the Senao/Engenius
equipment. $170 US for an outdoor (supposedly) 400 mW POE 802.11G bridge
with an integrated antenna (8 or 16 dBi) is a one-piece solution that
doesn't involve buying a NEMA box, or expensive coax, or separate
directional antenna.

Is it THAT bad ?

DanS <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Is there a specific reason why I never see the Senao/Engenius gear never
>recommended here ?

Yes. See below.

>There are many questions here that the answer could be the Senao/Engenius
>equipment. $170 US for an outdoor (supposedly) 400 mW POE 802.11G bridge
>with an integrated antenna (8 or 16 dBi) is a one-piece solution that
>doesn't involve buying a NEMA box, or expensive coax, or separate
>directional antenna.
>
>Is it THAT bad ?

The only products you see mentioned in this newsgroup are products
that do *NOT* work. Those are the ones that people are having
problems with. If you want to buy something that works, just find
something that is never mentioned. I'm sure there are people out
there using various products that have no questions, no problems, and
no complaints. It's just that we never hear from them.

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Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> DanS <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>Is there a specific reason why I never see the Senao/Engenius gear
>>never recommended here ?
>
> Yes. See below.
>
>>There are many questions here that the answer could be the
>>Senao/Engenius equipment. $170 US for an outdoor (supposedly) 400 mW
>>POE 802.11G bridge with an integrated antenna (8 or 16 dBi) is a
>>one-piece solution that doesn't involve buying a NEMA box, or
>>expensive coax, or separate directional antenna.
>>
>>Is it THAT bad ?
>
> The only products you see mentioned in this newsgroup are products
> that do *NOT* work. Those are the ones that people are having
> problems with. If you want to buy something that works, just find
> something that is never mentioned. I'm sure there are people out
> there using various products that have no questions, no problems, and
> no complaints. It's just that we never hear from them.
>

So by that logic, it's very good gear.

My Engenius adapter is truly awe-inspiring.
Hot receiver and transmitter. Their techs. are
here in the USA and not in the Philippines as
are those of ,say ,LinkSys..Connect even with
1 db (relative) signal..Hard to believe!!

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:20:37 -0500, DanS
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>news:(E-Mail Removed) :
>
>> DanS <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>
>>>Is there a specific reason why I never see the Senao/Engenius gear
>>>never recommended here ?
>>
>> Yes. See below.
>>
>>>There are many questions here that the answer could be the
>>>Senao/Engenius equipment. $170 US for an outdoor (supposedly) 400 mW
>>>POE 802.11G bridge with an integrated antenna (8 or 16 dBi) is a
>>>one-piece solution that doesn't involve buying a NEMA box, or
>>>expensive coax, or separate directional antenna.
>>>
>>>Is it THAT bad ?
>>
>> The only products you see mentioned in this newsgroup are products
>> that do *NOT* work. Those are the ones that people are having
>> problems with. If you want to buy something that works, just find
>> something that is never mentioned. I'm sure there are people out
>> there using various products that have no questions, no problems, and
>> no complaints. It's just that we never hear from them.

>So by that logic, it's very good gear.

Possibly. If nobody asks any questions, complains, or violently
denounces the manufacturer, then it's either a workable product that
works the first time, or it's a total disaster which everyone returns
and is then too embarrassed by the experience to comment about it.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. This is one of those
odd situations where either extreme yields identical user reactions.


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I'll jump in and say my two Senao access points both work great, only
trouble is rather cryptic instructions and sometimes esoteric configs,
but that just makes it more challenging. Overall, good stuff.


>>> DanS <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>>
>>>> Is there a specific reason why I never see the Senao/Engenius gear
>>>> never recommended here ?

Once set up properly, which as the OP stated can seem like a blind walk,
Senao/Engenius 200mw b and b/g AP/bridge radios are bulletproof and long
range.

As bulletproof as old 500mw Proxim Rangelan2 radios, in fact.

We're talking years of trouble-free, reset-free operation.

Senao/Engenius card performance is more variable, though primarily due
to the difficult to distinguish differences between desirable 200mw
cards and visually similar low power cards. Just insist on the high
power cards if you really need the range.



Airman Thunderbird wrote:

> I'll jump in and say my two Senao access points both work great, only
> trouble is rather cryptic instructions and sometimes esoteric configs,
> but that just makes it more challenging. Overall, good stuff.
>
>
>>>> DanS <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a specific reason why I never see the Senao/Engenius gear
>>>>> never recommended here ?

To Airman and News....

Thanks for your replies.

Of my most recent recollections, there was only one mention of the
Senao/Engenius gear, and that was the guy on the boat that was having
difficulties with it, but I think that was mostly his application since
he was on an achored boat being moved around by the water.

It just seems to me to be an inexpensive, simple installation no-brainer
for many of the 'can this be done ?' questions i've read here.

Regards,

DanS





News <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:(E-Mail Removed):

> Once set up properly, which as the OP stated can seem like a blind
walk,
> Senao/Engenius 200mw b and b/g AP/bridge radios are bulletproof and
long
> range.
>
> As bulletproof as old 500mw Proxim Rangelan2 radios, in fact.
>
> We're talking years of trouble-free, reset-free operation.
>
> Senao/Engenius card performance is more variable, though primarily due
> to the difficult to distinguish differences between desirable 200mw
> cards and visually similar low power cards. Just insist on the high
> power cards if you really need the range.
>
>
>
> Airman Thunderbird wrote:
>
>> I'll jump in and say my two Senao access points both work great, only
>> trouble is rather cryptic instructions and sometimes esoteric configs,
>> but that just makes it more challenging. Overall, good stuff.
>>
>>
>>>>> DanS <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a specific reason why I never see the Senao/Engenius gear
>>>>>> never recommended here ?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:13:01 -0500, DanS
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
<Xns991654332195Dthisnthatadelphianet@216.196.97.1 42>:

>Of my most recent recollections, there was only one mention of the
>Senao/Engenius gear, and that was the guy on the boat that was having
>difficulties with it, but I think that was mostly his application since
>he was on an achored boat being moved around by the water.

It was mostly his uninformed hacking and unwillingness to follow advice
on how to set it up; i.e., cockpit error, not the product.

>It just seems to me to be an inexpensive, simple installation no-brainer
>for many of the 'can this be done ?' questions i've read here.

Inexpensive and good, yes; simple, not necessarily, as documentation is
mediocre.

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:08:25 -0700, "jbyrd" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote
in <(E-Mail Removed)>:

>My Engenius adapter is truly awe-inspiring.
>Hot receiver and transmitter. Their techs. are
>here in the USA and not in the Philippines as
>are those of ,say ,LinkSys..Connect even with
>1 db (relative) signal..Hard to believe!!

Indeed. Not bloody likely either.

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