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Richard Haygreen
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      01-17-2004, 10:47 PM
Is it possible to turn off ICS to certain machines on a network using ICS
whilst leaving it on for others?

I have a network with 5 machines on it, one just as a router with ICS. I
would like to be able to turn ICS off to machines 1 and 2 remotely without
it affecting machines 3 and 4.

any ideas or suggestions welcome!


 
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Anton Gysen
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      01-17-2004, 11:25 PM
Richard Haygreen wrote:

> Is it possible to turn off ICS to certain machines on a network using ICS
> whilst leaving it on for others?
>
> I have a network with 5 machines on it, one just as a router with ICS. I
> would like to be able to turn ICS off to machines 1 and 2 remotely without
> it affecting machines 3 and 4.
>
> any ideas or suggestions welcome!


How about giving the machines that you don't want to have internet
access a static IP?
As soon as you give a machine a static IP, ICS doesn't wanna know!
That way, you can still share files and use Remote Desktop etc. on the
machines which don't have the internet access.

I don't know if this works because I haven't tried it, but I assume it does.

Anton
 
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Ross
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      01-17-2004, 11:56 PM
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:25:57 +0000, Anton Gysen wrote:

> Richard Haygreen wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to turn off ICS to certain machines on a network using ICS
>> whilst leaving it on for others?
>>
>> I have a network with 5 machines on it, one just as a router with ICS. I
>> would like to be able to turn ICS off to machines 1 and 2 remotely without
>> it affecting machines 3 and 4.
>>
>> any ideas or suggestions welcome!

>
> How about giving the machines that you don't want to have internet
> access a static IP?
> As soon as you give a machine a static IP, ICS doesn't wanna know!
> That way, you can still share files and use Remote Desktop etc. on the
> machines which don't have the internet access.
>
> I don't know if this works because I haven't tried it, but I assume it does.
>
> Anton


I use static addresses; ICS has no problem with that.
(I chose static because I didn't know whether my ISP would
get funny if I tried getting more than one IP address.)
Maybe you could firewall out machines 1 and 2? Using VNC
machine 5 if you want to do it remotely? And if you
have a firewall on the ICS machine? Dunno how that'd work
with DHCP, though.

Hope that's some help,
Ross
 
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Rob Morley
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      01-18-2004, 12:22 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Ross" (E-Mail Removed)
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> I use static addresses; ICS has no problem with that.
> (I chose static because I didn't know whether my ISP would
> get funny if I tried getting more than one IP address.)


Your ISP never sees the private addresses that ICS DHCP hands out -
that's the whole point of NAT.
 
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Anton Gysen
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      01-18-2004, 12:28 AM
Ross wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 00:25:57 +0000, Anton Gysen wrote:
>
>
>>Richard Haygreen wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Is it possible to turn off ICS to certain machines on a network using ICS
>>>whilst leaving it on for others?
>>>
>>>I have a network with 5 machines on it, one just as a router with ICS. I
>>>would like to be able to turn ICS off to machines 1 and 2 remotely without
>>>it affecting machines 3 and 4.
>>>
>>>any ideas or suggestions welcome!

>>
>>How about giving the machines that you don't want to have internet
>>access a static IP?
>>As soon as you give a machine a static IP, ICS doesn't wanna know!
>>That way, you can still share files and use Remote Desktop etc. on the
>>machines which don't have the internet access.
>>
>>I don't know if this works because I haven't tried it, but I assume it does.
>>
>>Anton

>
>
> I use static addresses; ICS has no problem with that.
> (I chose static because I didn't know whether my ISP would
> get funny if I tried getting more than one IP address.)
> Maybe you could firewall out machines 1 and 2? Using VNC
> machine 5 if you want to do it remotely? And if you
> have a firewall on the ICS machine? Dunno how that'd work
> with DHCP, though.
>
> Hope that's some help,
> Ross


How on earth do you get ICS working with a static IP? Do you set the DNS
server to be the machine running ICS? (192.168.0.1)
My ICS works perfectly when I set the client machine to aquire it's IP
automatically, but once you specify an IP (even if it is in the
192.168.0.x range), you don't get anywhere.

Anton
 
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Anton Gysen
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      01-18-2004, 12:34 AM
Ross wrote:

> I use static addresses; ICS has no problem with that.
> (I chose static because I didn't know whether my ISP would
> get funny if I tried getting more than one IP address.)
> Maybe you could firewall out machines 1 and 2? Using VNC
> machine 5 if you want to do it remotely? And if you
> have a firewall on the ICS machine? Dunno how that'd work
> with DHCP, though.
>
> Hope that's some help,
> Ross


How on earth do you manage this? Do you set the DNS to be the machine
running ICS (192.168.0.1)?
My ICS works a treat until you assign the client machine a static IP
(even if it is in the 192.168.0.x range).

Anton
 
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      01-18-2004, 08:24 AM
On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 01:34:51 +0000, Anton Gysen
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Ross wrote:
>
>> I use static addresses; ICS has no problem with that.
>> (I chose static because I didn't know whether my ISP would
>> get funny if I tried getting more than one IP address.)
>> Maybe you could firewall out machines 1 and 2? Using VNC
>> machine 5 if you want to do it remotely? And if you
>> have a firewall on the ICS machine? Dunno how that'd work
>> with DHCP, though.
>>
>> Hope that's some help,
>> Ross

>
>How on earth do you manage this? Do you set the DNS to be the machine
>running ICS (192.168.0.1)?
>My ICS works a treat until you assign the client machine a static IP
>(even if it is in the 192.168.0.x range).
>
>Anton


Here's the Microsoft knowledgebase article on how to configure ICS with static
clients.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;309642

It works ok as I've set up my clients with static IP's

Clansman


 
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Richard Haygreen
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      01-18-2004, 10:27 AM
Static IP's seem to kill ICS here too, not sure why as I am sure I have used
them in the past. I was kind of hoping there might be a hidden menu
somewhere with a tick box for each machine, unchecking the tick box would
stop a machines connection. Will try the firewall, but with DHCP there is a
risk of blocking my own IP at some point!

Thanks for all your help.


 
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      01-18-2004, 01:34 PM

"Anton Gysen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
message news:bucnng$ma$(E-Mail Removed)...
| Ross wrote:
|
| > I use static addresses; ICS has no problem with that.
| > (I chose static because I didn't know whether my ISP would
| > get funny if I tried getting more than one IP address.)
| > Maybe you could firewall out machines 1 and 2? Using VNC
| > machine 5 if you want to do it remotely? And if you
| > have a firewall on the ICS machine? Dunno how that'd work
| > with DHCP, though.
| >
| > Hope that's some help,
| > Ross
|
| How on earth do you manage this? Do you set the DNS to be the machine
| running ICS (192.168.0.1)?
| My ICS works a treat until you assign the client machine a static IP
| (even if it is in the 192.168.0.x range).
|
| Anton

Have you put the IP of the default gateway as the IP address of the machine
connected to the net?


 
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Richard Haygreen
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      01-18-2004, 02:03 PM
no. machines are told to look on the LAN for a gateway, which is
192.168.0.1, but each machine is not set up with the default gateway as
192.168.0.1


 
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