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tommy alimo
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      09-06-2011, 11:07 PM
How can I detect if my router is giving out WPA or WPA2?

Like, to verify it's functioning as I set it.

inSSIDer seems to call both WPA. Is there any other software that says
that'd do it?
 
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      09-06-2011, 11:30 PM
In news:(E-Mail Removed) "tommy alimo"
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> How can I detect if my router is giving out WPA or WPA2?
>
> Like, to verify it's functioning as I set it.
>
> inSSIDer seems to call both WPA. Is there any other software that says
> that'd do it?


How do you have to configure your laptop (or other device) in order to
connect to it?

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      09-07-2011, 01:03 AM
Bert wrote:

> In news:(E-Mail Removed) "tommy alimo"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > How can I detect if my router is giving out WPA or WPA2?
> >
> > Like, to verify it's functioning as I set it.
> >
> > inSSIDer seems to call both WPA. Is there any other software that
> > says that'd do it?

>
> How do you have to configure your laptop (or other device) in order to
> connect to it?


well, that's a bit inefficient, i'd rather a program that tells me,
rather than trying and getting an error, and if I were in a situation
where I was unable to connect, then I wouldn't be able to tell by that
method. since that method just looks at what method of connecting works.
 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      09-07-2011, 03:11 AM
On 6 Sep 2011 23:07:48 GMT, "tommy alimo" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>How can I detect if my router is giving out WPA or WPA2?
>Like, to verify it's functioning as I set it.


What? You don't trust the manufacturer and its outsourced firmware
programmers?

>inSSIDer seems to call both WPA. Is there any other software that says
>that'd do it?


That's a common complaint about inSSIDer. Try Xirrus wifi inspector,
which I think does it right.
<http://www.xirrus.com/library/wifitools.php>
It will show the default encryption and authentication method.
However, if the router offers WPA-TKIP, WPA-TKIP, and WPA2-AES, it
will only show the highest level of encryption offered and not the
others.
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      09-07-2011, 01:12 PM
In news:(E-Mail Removed) "tommy alimo"
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> Bert wrote:
>
>> In news:(E-Mail Removed) "tommy alimo"
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> > How can I detect if my router is giving out WPA or WPA2?
>> >
>> > Like, to verify it's functioning as I set it.
>> >
>> > inSSIDer seems to call both WPA. Is there any other software that
>> > says that'd do it?

>>
>> How do you have to configure your laptop (or other device) in order
>> to connect to it?

>
> well, that's a bit inefficient, ...


Sorry; I'd simply assumed that you were actually using your router.

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Aaron Leonard
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      09-07-2011, 10:16 PM

>>How can I detect if my router is giving out WPA or WPA2?
>>Like, to verify it's functioning as I set it.

>
>What? You don't trust the manufacturer and its outsourced firmware
>programmers?
>
>>inSSIDer seems to call both WPA. Is there any other software that says
>>that'd do it?

>
>That's a common complaint about inSSIDer. Try Xirrus wifi inspector,
>which I think does it right.
><http://www.xirrus.com/library/wifitools.php>
>It will show the default encryption and authentication method.
>However, if the router offers WPA-TKIP, WPA-TKIP, and WPA2-AES, it
>will only show the highest level of encryption offered and not the
>others.


inSSIDer does distinguish, but apparently only shows the *lowest*
level. I.e. an AP that supports WPA/TKIP and WPA2/AES is shown as
supporting (in the "Privacy" column) "WPA-TKIP", while an AP that is
configured for *only* WPA2/AES is shown as supporting "RSNA-CCMP".

If you *really* want to know, just sniff the beacons and take a look
at the IEs.

Cheers,

Aaron
 
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      09-08-2011, 04:20 AM
Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> On 6 Sep 2011 23:07:48 GMT, "tommy alimo" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> > How can I detect if my router is giving out WPA or WPA2?
> > Like, to verify it's functioning as I set it.

>
> What? You don't trust the manufacturer and its outsourced firmware
> programmers?
>
> > inSSIDer seems to call both WPA. Is there any other software that
> > says that'd do it?

>
> That's a common complaint about inSSIDer. Try Xirrus wifi inspector,
> which I think does it right.
> <http://www.xirrus.com/library/wifitools.php>
> It will show the default encryption and authentication method.
> However, if the router offers WPA-TKIP, WPA-TKIP, and WPA2-AES, it
> will only show the highest level of encryption offered and not the
> others.


nice program,

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      09-09-2011, 09:40 PM
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to be Aaron Leonard <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:

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>>>How can I detect if my router is giving out WPA or WPA2?
>>>Like, to verify it's functioning as I set it.

>>
>>What? You don't trust the manufacturer and its outsourced firmware
>>programmers?
>>
>>>inSSIDer seems to call both WPA. Is there any other software that says
>>>that'd do it?

>>
>>That's a common complaint about inSSIDer. Try Xirrus wifi inspector,
>>which I think does it right.
>><http://www.xirrus.com/library/wifitools.php>
>>It will show the default encryption and authentication method.
>>However, if the router offers WPA-TKIP, WPA-TKIP, and WPA2-AES, it
>>will only show the highest level of encryption offered and not the
>>others.

>
>inSSIDer does distinguish, but apparently only shows the *lowest*
>level. I.e. an AP that supports WPA/TKIP and WPA2/AES is shown as
>supporting (in the "Privacy" column) "WPA-TKIP", while an AP that is
>configured for *only* WPA2/AES is shown as supporting "RSNA-CCMP".


Showing either the highest or lowest alone seems to be pointless.

Listing only the lowest gives you a reasonable idea of the minimum level
of security (the level that should probably be assumed) but it doesn't
help if you want to know what capabilities are available to more capable
hardware.

Conversely displaying only the highest is outright stupid since you may
assume your network is appropriately secure when it turns out a majority
of the network uses a less secure choice.

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      09-10-2011, 02:52 AM
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:40:02 -0700, DevilsPGD
<Still-Just-A-Rat-In-A-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>In message <(E-Mail Removed)> someone claiming
>to be Aaron Leonard <(E-Mail Removed)> typed:
>
>>
>>>>How can I detect if my router is giving out WPA or WPA2?
>>>>Like, to verify it's functioning as I set it.
>>>
>>>What? You don't trust the manufacturer and its outsourced firmware
>>>programmers?
>>>
>>>>inSSIDer seems to call both WPA. Is there any other software that says
>>>>that'd do it?
>>>
>>>That's a common complaint about inSSIDer. Try Xirrus wifi inspector,
>>>which I think does it right.
>>><http://www.xirrus.com/library/wifitools.php>
>>>It will show the default encryption and authentication method.
>>>However, if the router offers WPA-TKIP, WPA-TKIP, and WPA2-AES, it
>>>will only show the highest level of encryption offered and not the
>>>others.

>>
>>inSSIDer does distinguish, but apparently only shows the *lowest*
>>level. I.e. an AP that supports WPA/TKIP and WPA2/AES is shown as
>>supporting (in the "Privacy" column) "WPA-TKIP", while an AP that is
>>configured for *only* WPA2/AES is shown as supporting "RSNA-CCMP".

>
>Showing either the highest or lowest alone seems to be pointless.
>
>Listing only the lowest gives you a reasonable idea of the minimum level
>of security (the level that should probably be assumed) but it doesn't
>help if you want to know what capabilities are available to more capable
>hardware.
>
>Conversely displaying only the highest is outright stupid since you may
>assume your network is appropriately secure when it turns out a majority
>of the network uses a less secure choice.


I admit that I haven't paid attention, but are there really AP's that
support WPA and WPA2 simultaneously? I assumed you had to pick one or
the other.

 
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      09-10-2011, 03:01 AM
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 21:52:22 -0500, Char Jackson <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>I admit that I haven't paid attention, but are there really AP's that
>support WPA and WPA2 simultaneously? I assumed you had to pick one or
>the other.


<http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WPA/WPA2>
The question was asked: "WPA2 Pre-Shared Key Only" vs.
"WPA2 Pre-Shared Key Mixed" What is the difference? Is
"Mixed" WPA and WPA2???

BrainSlayer replied: 24 Dec 2005 23:16 In mixed mode, the
unit tries wpa2 first and if its fails it uses wpa1

Note the date. "Mixed mode" has been around for quite a while. Every
current wireless router that I've seen supports "mixed mode".

More:
<https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-4349>
<http://www6.nohold.net/Cisco2/GetArt...Wireless_N.xml
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